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[quote name='TPJ' timestamp='1472820567' post='3124520'] Don't give up that quickly You can transfer much of electric bass lines, it's just how you execute them that's different. I play loads of pop and rock songs on DB in a group I play with. Do you have a good ear? If so, maybe try some Abersol recordings. Listen to the bass lines and learn them by ear. Music reading isn't essential, a good ear is. [/quote] Thanks pm replied

[quote name='The Jaywalker' timestamp='1472812482' post='3124422'] There aren't any, I'm afraid. Tab doesn't exist for double bass. If you're thinking along the lines of copping lines via tab on electric bass and transferring them onto double bass then that simply won't work - the fingering and positioning systems are totally different. Not to mention that it would be a waste of time and energy: Tab tells you the rhythm, not the note name and reading notes is far simpler than reading rhythms or the 2 combined. NB, this is walking bass, so it's all quarter note rhythm anyway. Learn to read the notes; it's not that difficult. I'm assuming you don't have a problem with the names of notes on the bass neck? If you're going to learn anything about jazz/walking bass line construction there's a certain amount of work that needs to be put in, including theory and a bit of reading music. It's one of the main ways musicians communicate ideas and concepts, it's a language. That's not being a "purist" - that's just a statement of fact. [/quote] Thankyou for your reply i should of probably done some research before purchasing a Double Bass....After playing Electric Bass for many years i just thought i would be able to transfer my knowledge to the Upright and be able to play....my ignorance as smacked me in the chops really and to be honest I can't see me making the transition from Electric to Upright so will probably have to bite the bullet and trade it in...because i have blagged my way through music for the past 40 years nearly thanks again for your reply....be it a tad dissapointed cheers

Hi Folks anyone recommend a decent book/cd with tablature for Walking Basslines please....i've just recently purchased Ed Friedland book building walking basslines which is good but i'm struggling to transpose from notation to tab.....it's just double dutch to me and i can't be arsed to learn to read....way to old at 55 for all that gubbins lol...i know i will piss the purists off....but anyone recommend a good Walking Basslines, Jazz Bass or Blues/Swing Shuffle Bass in TAB i will be most grateful thankyou and have a great weekend folks cheers Bob

[quote name='neilp' timestamp='1472743730' post='3123849'] No worries. Pete is a genius, judging from the quality of the mechanical C extension he made for me. Absolutely superb. [/quote] Nice one Neil thanks again looking forward to getting my Bass sorted cheers

[quote name='neilp' timestamp='1472199891' post='3119293'] Isn't Pete Barnaby up that way somewhere? [/quote] Hi Neil i have just been messaged the number of Pete Barnaby he lives in Louth so only half hour away from me thanks for the reply appreciate your help cheers Bob

[quote name='Marc S' timestamp='1472727595' post='3123681'] I meant to add, re the comments about posturing, and holding the bass correctly etc (sorry it's slightly off topic) But there are also some good Youtube videos out there, which start with posture / holding the bass correctly too Along with right and left hand techniques - might be useful to look at these thebigyin Cheers EDIT: Such as this one on discoverdoublebass.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD8qKV9aWD4 [/quote] Thanks Marc will take a look

[quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1472719259' post='3123540'] I think that's quite a rude comment. The attitude in question is not in the least obstructive, it is simply a statement of how the O/P wants to go about things. You may have damaged your hand through bass playing, although given there's no control group for these things, it may have been caused by bass playing, made worse by bass playing or actually have nothing to do with bass playing - you could simply have an existing disposition to this kind of condition. Either way, I'm sorry to hear about your injury. However, there are thousands of self-taught musicians who manage to play competently and without injury, and sometimes do so better than their well-taught counterparts. Certainly whether taught or untaught, like athletes and performers generally, musicians need to monitor both pain and movement quality, and take action if either appear to be worsening, and it's perhaps that, not the source of technical learning, that is the key factor in injury prevention. [/quote] Thankyou Beedster i have no aspirations i play bass because I enjoy it admittedly only had the Upright a fortnight i also play Electric Bass, Acoustic Guitar a bit of Drums occasionally and have sang in many Bands i like music full stop realised nearly 40 years ago i was never going to make it but played hundreds of local gigs thanks again Bob

[quote name='Marty Forrer' timestamp='1472690089' post='3123399'] You're not interested in a teacher? To be honest, that is the most obstructive statement ever. I bought an upright after many years of bass guitar. I taught myself. Due to my pig-headedness, I now have arthritic and deformed knuckles on my left hand. I eventually figured I needed a teacher, but the damage had been done. Don't worry about strings, use the money for lessons. [/quote] Only one Bass tutor in Grimsby and I have contacted him but he's to busy i had Electric Bass lessons with him many years ago....so i will just plod on regardless i don't take it seriously so not that fussed to be honest

I bought a box set of Bill Evans Trio if you listen with headphones you can hear the Bass and Drums alot clearer....i agree just straight through the speakers the Bass and Drums are very low in the mix.

Sure is

Apparently Bill Evans didn't want Explorations released because he thought it was a poor performance it wasn't until later he changed his mind and realised it was a good album

Lol i stand corrected Spencer and yes indeed excellent....such a tragic loss.

Just listening to the Bill Evans Trio Explorations cd 1958....i think it's Scott Lafaro on DB, great listening.

Bought a few books from Martyn and he is spot on

[quote name='invicta59' timestamp='1472207877' post='3119425'] It seems to me that the best thing for you to invest a little money in straight away is a trip to the Double Bass Bash in Derby in a few weeks time. There will be a variety of people, playing in various styles and if you ask any of them nicely, I'm sure they'll let you try their bass and their string choices - I certainly would. Honestly, even if only 10 people go, you'll not get a better opportunity to discover the double bass and it's many nuances. Last year there was a very healthy turnout. I see you don't drive, and that you are in Grimsby. I live near Scunthorpe and am planning to go, so if you are interested, and if my plans remain on track, I might be able to squeeze you in (I will be taking my bass, amp, maybe a couple of cabs and another buddy, but there should be room for another person). [/quote] Thankyou very much for the offer i will see what I can do and get back to you cheers Bob

Looking for a Double Bass tutor in Grimsby as the guy i have contacted is extremely busy and it's very difficult to find a convenient time between us so looking for a possible alternative thanks

[quote name='SubsonicSimpleton' timestamp='1472200127' post='3119300'] Peter Hall in Beverley [/quote] Thanks i've heard of Peter Hall i will try to contact him cheers Bob

[quote name='neilp' timestamp='1472199891' post='3119293'] Isn't Pete Barnaby up that way somewhere? [/quote] Hello i'm not sure to be honest thanks for your reply

[quote name='The Jaywalker' timestamp='1472164859' post='3119130'] Ok. Don't want to rain on your parade here - but you've been happy to take everyone's advice on this thread and have been very gracious about it. Take lessons. There's a lot of info on YouTube, yeah - but most of its crap. Any idiot can post a video. Your 20 years experience on electric bass counts for very little as techniques on both instruments are COMPLETELY different. Take it from a pro on both. As for "finding your own technique"... You've seen the size of the thing! Double bass technique has developed out of logistical necessity - if you want to be able to play to any kind of jazz standard it's not an option. I know this probably sounds a bit harsh - and if you're just wanting to have a bit of fun and not take the instrument too seriously, then that's cool - but, as an advanced pro bassist and teacher, that's where it's at. [/quote] Thankyou Jaywalker i will certainly take on board what you have said and agree with your comments about some of the youtube vids i must admit they vary drastically in quality of information ect....i will be very honest my experience of lessons in the past as been one of well that was a waste of money playing either Electric Bass or Acoustic or Electric Guitar....we only have one Bass tutor in Grimsby and I went to him for Electric Bass lessons many years ago but it wasn't a great experience so I think it's left a bad impression...i don't drive so I don't know of anyone else....if I could find someone who i could feel at ease with i would take them thanks once again i appreciate your reply and help cheers Bob

Just been watching some clips on youtube on the Innovation strings they sound fantastic

[quote name='mtroun' timestamp='1472151474' post='3118966'] If you've been playing a week, I think finding a good teacher should be your foremost priority. [/quote] I'm not interested in lessons to be honest there's lots of information on line which I have found very helpful i bought the Bass purely for fun as i have wanted one for about 20 years and i have played Electric Bass for many years and just transfering knowledge from that onto Upright and finding my own style and technique but thanks for your reply Cheers Bob

Hello again just wondering if anyone knows of a good Luthier in or near to Grimsby who could do a professional set up and string change on my Bass. Thanks in advance cheers Bob

[quote name='keeponehandloose' timestamp='1472142904' post='3118859'] If your curious about guts you will never be truly happy until youve tried them on your own bass for yourself.There will always be a niggle in your mind while you spend a small fortune on other strings first. Buy the guts and then decide.IMO. [/quote] Yeah i agree in some respect because you have to make your own judgement otherwise like you rightly said you will always have that doubt and never satisfy ones curiosity....but i-ve only been playing Upright a week....played Electric for many years. So obviously a bit wary and seeking a more knowledgeable and professional opinion thanks for your reply Cheers Bob

[quote name='mtroun' timestamp='1472125142' post='3118702'] Gut strings are lovely, but expensive. Try them on someone else's bass. The main reason I like them is the lower tension. At the moment I am using Velvet Garbo, which are an alright compromise. [/quote] Thanks will check the Velvet Garbo out on youtube because of some of the negative comments and maintenance and expense i'd be happy with an alternative of strings similar to gut....watched a clip of gut-a-like strings someone suggested and quite liked the sound and price of them cheers Bob