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[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1339743272' post='1693495'] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/106388-ray-shulman-of-gentle-giant"]http://basschat.co.u...of-gentle-giant[/url] [/quote] Hm. That thread is from 2010 BC. I'm confirmed in having to wonder where all of this is coming from and going to, and why. I mentioned the name of a great bassist. You actively chose to respond in a positive way. Thus you contributed to the pointless thread, or affirmed my pointless post. I'm here to learn and to enjoy. I hope to contribute so other people enjoy, and when I grow up, I hope to contribute so other people can learn. Right now I feel the surveillance is getting slightly in the way, so my direct question to you is: Do you have specific reasons for writing the way you do in this thread, or is this just a coincidence and not really wished for, or do I misinterpret?

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1339690213' post='1692828'] My point really was I don't see the point of a load of bassists all listing a load of names, that they either like or don't like - or heard of or not heard of, for that matter.[/quote] OK. I hadn't understood that. You went over my head with that one, English being a foreign language for me. I'd like to look at this somewhat more positively: While the thread idea in itself may seem somewhat unoriginal and uninspiring, suddenly a remark could turn up that could start something else. In fact, my mentioning Ray Shulman resulted in you responding, and maybe someone else then gives him a listen. I don't know most of the names mentioned here, but many names are repeated, and eventually I check them out. Me mentioning unknown bassists (or not - I wouldn't know who is or isn't known) could also spark questions or whatever, all for the good of broadening the banter. There are enough threads that do not interest me, or that I think are pointless. I just stay away then.

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1339699316' post='1693021'] I think we should have a bassist of the month thread[/quote] Oooohw! That's beautiful, if we can pull it off. How about starting that thread right away, but for the time being just to air some thoughts on it? I think it should be interesting to many groups, from noob to unnoob, and that requires some good ideas, I think.

[quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1339697707' post='1692991']Really?[/quote] Yup, it was an acquaintance of mine who did it, against my advice, as I already knew Penderecki always hears it. And indeed, Penderecki exploded into this guy's face. [quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1339697707' post='1692991']I love Penderecki's stuff![/quote] Great! Me too. Started in '70 or so, when our teacher played the LP of Threnos (iirc) in the classroom.

[quote name='bobodhi' timestamp='1339692009' post='1692880'] but 'mispellinng' was a deliberate mispelling, so does that count [...] ? [/quote] Let's agree that it doesn't count then. Principles is one thing, but being lazy beats it. Always.

Close. Gear Acquisition Syndrome. When the first Squier was reviewed in a Dutch mag, they even stated that the instruments were named after Chris Squire, so you're in the clear as to spelling. (WP says the name Squier was bought in '65) However, you must now write a new post apologising for "spellinng". Me, I probably must apologise for "apologising" with an "s", Idunno. This is gonna be the longest BC thread [b]ever[/b].

Hi Charlie, Welcome to BC! Nice vid. When I grow up, I wanna play like that. I love that you like both music and jazz, and agree not everything needs to be music to be liked. Enjoy the company of loons!

... when you take the tram solely in order to listen to the screeching and beating sounds it makes. The working title of your new composition is "Trams", but it ends up as "Cryozygnic Structures IX". ... when buying a sofa, you're not as preoccupied with its comfiness as with how the arm rests and sides feel and sound when you're beating two handed rhythm patterns. (True story) ... when you buy a Vauxhall Corsa to transport your cello, and use that newfound freedom to buy an additional 88 key MIDI keyboard, which of course does not fit. (True story. I lost the hots for her when she did that. Sorry, love.) ... when practising at home on a Penderecki piece that he's gonna conduct himself, you teach yourself two versions: the real one and one a fifth higher or lower, just to test if he'll hear it. (Yes, true story again) PS, he does. I [b]know[/b]. Edited for clarity in language. Futile, I know.

[quote name='LiamPodmore' timestamp='1339667390' post='1692170'] When your biggest concern whilst re-arranging your bedroom, is the storage location of cases, and where you're going to put your stand. [/quote] Oh, so true! Am there right now. Finally arranging my living room, and the placement of the instruments overshadows everything else. Also: ... when you play fourth saxophone in the big band and you're looking forward to the sax solo. ... when you understand above joke.

[quote name='Voodoosnake' timestamp='1339669165' post='1692224'] Woke up this morning and Basschat wasnt the first thing I logged into [/quote] Oh man, that is the saddest first line in a blues song ever. Congrats, I suppose, but I think even playing this song backwards will not get you back to where you once belonged ...

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1339628513' post='1691859'] There are ten there that I've no idea who they are. [/quote] Lemme guess anyway: Cor Dekker (Ekseption) - Dutch "classical" prog - often very tacky arrangements of classical themes. Sometimes genius. Bert Ruiter (Focus) - Dutch prog Ron van Eck (Supersister) - Dutch prog akin to Canterbury scene Rinus Gerritsen (Golden Earring) - "Radar Love"! Jannick Top - from French band Magma Bakithi Kumalo - played on Paul Simon's "Graceland" Muzz Skillings - in Living Colour before Doug Wimbish Georg Riedel - a Swede who did a lot of different jazz, often rather soft or quite modern Red Mitchell - an American jazz player. Probably not that known, but very musical I think, and he had an impact on me.

[quote name='spinynorman' timestamp='1339625449' post='1691816'] Prog suite might be pushing it a bit, doesn't that require at least one member of the band to play eight keyboards at once? [/quote] Mea culpa. Sorry, I forgot that. So then it is an example of ... of ... er ... [b]Damn those tiny little genre boxes! It's music, alright?[/b]

[quote name='bluejay' timestamp='1339591104' post='1691017'][b][size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]at the first glimpse of a ray of sunshine, rush to music corner and make sure the curtain is drawn and the gear is in the shade.[/font][/size][/b][/quote] Aargh! No musician then. My curtains are always closed, unless I'm having visitors, and then I'll move the basses before opening the curtains. Yes, I'm lonely. What a lovely thread BTW, and what great answers up to now! Being dead serious for one second, for me being a classical musician is about wishing to convey the greatness of the composer by playing yet another way of "looking" at the composition, never about wishing to convey the greatness of oneself (I'd guess that this changes somewhat in popular music, as I gather the audience becomes more in focus, and the composer less). This "composer's greatness" thing is why I have a tendency to love classical organists and dislike classical pianists. A psychologist once told me that it's not coincidence that a pianist moves a lot and thrives at the front of the stage while the organist is hidden on the gallery, behind the part of the organ we call the positive, and keeps his body rather still most of the time. The old concierge (caretaker?) at my college could recognise what instrument people played by just looking at their general appearance and body language. Really fascinating. He disliked many pianists too, BTW.

[quote name='grtz' timestamp='1339592812' post='1691055'] Who else but a bunch of bass players can name ten bass players off the top of their heads anyway ;-) [/quote] Me. (Yes, I did see the winkey.) As a keyboards guy, I know zilch about bass players, yet could easily name at least two dozen bass players who've meant a lot for my love for the bass, for example: Cor Dekker (Ekseption) Bert Ruiter (Focus) Ron van Eck (Supersister) Rinus Gerritsen (Golden Earring) Jack Bruce Chris Squire Ray Shulman (Gentle Giant) - he's mentioned far too little, I feel Jannick Top Jeffrey Hammond John Glascock Jaco Pastorius Stanley Clarke JJ Burnel Bakithi Kumalo John Patitucci Muzz Skillings Doug Wimbish Sean Malone Les Claypool Georg Riedel Red Mitchell Ron Carter Charlie Mingus Is that 10 yet? Oooh ...

[quote name='mentalextra' timestamp='1339606803' post='1691420'] Even a little guitar solo! [/quote] You were wrong in posting this as a punk song. At a length of 3:25, this clearly is a prog suite, and the solo just confirms that. I wish people were more knowledgeable, and a lot better at putting all music in tiny little genre boxes.

Hi Rover77, Welcome to BC. Sorry, I don't know the first thing about this, so I can't baby step you through this. I'd have expected it to have a jack IN and a jack OUT, but am obviously bad at expecting. Enjoy your stay!

Never played: - Music Man Bongo - RockBass Corvette - Hohner B2B My fingers have moved the wires on them though, as well as the wires on shitloads of basses through the years. I feel I must be world famous by now for really trying, through several decennia, to get close encounters of the fourth kind with basses that cross my path.

Hi Bass-Thing, I already had gotten used to you, and thought you'd been here forever. But OK. Welcome to BC! Thanks for the story. Nice read, that. Enjoy!

Hi Lewis, Welcome to BC, and congrats with your brand new account! Saw the pic of your avatar. That 6-wire thing in the background, that's not yours, right? [i][b]R I G H T ? ? ?[/b][/i] Enjoy!

[quote name='paul torch' timestamp='1339510354' post='1689546'] I heard a rumour that he used to put inaccuracies in on purpose to see who was plagiarising his work. [/quote] Heard that too. Inspired me to put lots of flaws in my compositions on purpose ...

[quote name='BottomE' timestamp='1339503079' post='1689348'] Heteroness [/quote] Neologism. As in being heterosexual. I'm sorry if I was unclear.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1339501870' post='1689316']Three from the weekend[/quote] You guys went up a hill and came down from a mountain, or?

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1339500316' post='1689281']Mad innit, I think it's called being British [/quote] It's also called being Dutch in Norway. I could never handle compliments, and for different reasons, one of them being humble or modest or whatever, and the other one being about wanting to express that I wasn't satisfied myself (which is almost the same thing as saying I was really way better at this than they heard). I've had to have some hard words with the mirror, and these days, I think I'm more relaxed, and would go something like: "Wow, thanks! Nice to hear that!" Good luck with being British!

Also, the cell foam as used by kayak factories is great, as it is tough and semi soft at the same time, and also rather easily cut. You could ask some kayak factories where they get the stuff. For example P&H in Runcorn (between Ellesmere Port and Warrington) have great stuff, but Ireland should have enough whitewater kayakers that could help you as well.

+1 on the expanding foam. Note that you can buy foam after specified expansion ratios and pressure rates (while expanding). Technical data sheets, and sellers who know what they talk about, can help here. As a beginner, always do the foam thing in stages, and pack the object with a daily paper or similar so you make some extra space - amongst others for being able to dress the foam with some velvety stuff afterwards. Velvety stuff is good for avoiding wear on the foam.