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[quote name='ubit' timestamp='1445710422' post='2893682'] The op has stated that he doesn't want to go down this road, so obviously saying dump him, is not an option . [/quote] Exactly! Just dump him.

[quote name='KingBollock' timestamp='1445708642' post='2893665'] Did Gene Simmons from Kiss get mentioned in the old part of the thread (I only read the first and last couple of pages)? [/quote] [Scrolls to top of page. Enters "gene simmons" in search field. Presses Enter key. One result: a post by KingBollock. Enters "kiss" in search field. Presses Enter key. One result: a post by KingBollock.] Er... Nope!

[quote name='pfretrock' timestamp='1445700164' post='2893568'] What is success without talent? [/quote] Good one. Well, statistically it might seem like it pays a lot better than success [b][i]with[/i][/b] talent.

My ears! My ears! I really hate this low volume! Turn it up, fer cryin' our loud!

[quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1445601859' post='2892724'] Does the author reference peer-reviewed research carried out using double-blind tests, or is he just relying on anecdotal evidence? [/quote] Double-blind tests? You're nuts! That would discriminate those talented people who read the dots. On a serious note, IME talented people are those who need less information from others before being able to see the patterns and structures, and to build further on that information. They also need considerably less than those famed 10,000 hours, whilst others would need considerably more. Then again, I've never double-blinded or even simply blinded people with my research.

[quote name='ubit' timestamp='1445583528' post='2892489'] That's just a troll type comment to say most rock bands are dull and boring and should be ignored. [/quote] I don't see a troll type comment there at all, but just a serious opinion with a valid point. Also, he didn't state these bands should be ignored by others. He just found them dull and boring himself, as do I and as I presume do you yourself. I mean: of all the rock bands in the world, how many would you actually want to go and see live, or even play a CD of? Me, I'd certainly not buy the CD of the "club band" of our ferry to Denmark, or the band that often plays at market days in our community. BTW, he said it three years ago. It's not certain he visits this thread to see the responses and explain or "defend" himself.

...or one of several Eloy bootlegs that also used it. If I understand correctly, the artist's name is Rodney Matthews, but I did find the same picture on a page dedicated to Roger Dean.

[quote name='ribbetingfrog' timestamp='1445587358' post='2892531'] I must admit I'd hang around in lifts too if the music was played this well. [/quote] Deranged derailment, but I was once in a lift that kept me inside longishly because of its music. This was in days yonder, and they hadn't invited Vulfpeck yet, but Yes and ELP were no slouches either. Someone must've received the wrong cassette, the point being that these were not you everyday C90 Music Cassettes, but physically large cassettes -prepared by a B2B firm - that played in special machines, typically in shopping centres, large work places and lifts.

[quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1445546177' post='2892383'] Hmm... only two responses... astounding! [/quote] Idunno, but this might be one of several reasons: http://basschat.co.uk/topic/225867-vulfpeck-a-great-new-to-me-band But yeah, likeable band indeed!

Dunno where prog would be, but Gentle Giant's "Octopus" cover would look like this proposal by George Underwood: [URL=http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/basstractor1/media/Gentle%20Giant%20-%20Octopus%20George%20Underwood_zps0atajtpi.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r525/basstractor1/Gentle%20Giant%20-%20Octopus%20George%20Underwood_zps0atajtpi.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[quote name='Spoombung' timestamp='1445366356' post='2890982'] I love National Health. Big influence on my band, Prescott, believe it or not: [/quote] You know, I find that very easy to believe, and it hardly comes as a surprise. Would probably not have discovered this own my own, admittedly. BTW, and I'm repeating myself from earlier, Prescott's a great band. IMNTHO of course. [quote name='steve-soar' timestamp='1445366618' post='2890984'] sTUNNING. hAVE ARMS WIDE OPEN FOR EVERYTHING THEY DID. [/quote] Is that a command or an admission? [quote name='steve-soar' timestamp='1445366821' post='2890986'] Calyx [/quote] As in: - everybody should hear Calyx as it's a great song? - this reminds me of Calyx? - Calyx is a great techstep band. Everybody should listen to Calyx instead of this!

For those interested but not in the know, I couldn't resist posting this later song by National Health, also with Dave Stewart, Pip Pyle and Phil Miller. "Tenemos Roads" is a song that I love to death. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj9ZUHju7JE

[quote] [color=#000000][font=Georgia, Times,]student shed almost half his body weight - and ended up bagging himself[/font][/color] [/quote] It may be a slow news day, but this part at least was inspiring. Weight loss indeed is essential... ...or so I've heard.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1445269515' post='2890101'] Although I'm not sure pianos are actually tuned by computers. Doesn't a man tune them to a reference tuning fork and his ear, listening for beats? Hence there's a fair bit of 'whether it sounds good' going on. [/quote] Funny you should write this, as I'd deleted a chunk about piano tuning before posting. Electronic tuning machines do exist, but I've seen one in use only once. My experience is with people who do the tuning, and contradictory to what I'd assume is the impression in the general public, the pianos aren't exactly tuned in equal temperament, but the tuner person would ask what music you tend to play most and/or like most. Concert grands are often tuned fitting to the material of the next concert, in cooperation with the solo pianist, and I've seen one master pianist using two differently tuned pianos during the concert, one for music from the early 19th century and one for newer music. BTW, I was in a tuning project & concert once where we had four differently tuned harpsichords on stage. Great experience to hear the same piece four times with different tunings, and the effect the tuning had on the piece/listener.

[quote name='dincz' timestamp='1445244080' post='2889781'] Slightly off track. I've often heard of different keys expressing different "moods". With the tempered scale, surely transposing from one major (or minor) key to another major (or minor) key would not affect the "mood". [/quote] One would think it wouldn't change the mood indeed, but people with different types/grades of perfect pitch (I'm lumping all types together here to avoid another lengthy post) still report that each key has its own character or mood. I can't for the life of me remember whether they all agree on the different moods, nor whether they need physical instruments (typically orchestra instruments) for this rather than electronic instruments.

Update: it went for nearly £12,500. Somebody must really love the rain or the forest or the sting.

Thanks for responding, guys. I guess the auction can't be reached from abroad, or it depends on the browser. The link is faulty (it's truncated), but does work for me in Chrome. But can you guys see the picture?

I just realised I've often reacted to sounds on the loose by exclamating: "Wow, that's a musical sound! I want to do something with it!" Granted, my ears might be broken, but if we instead speak of one with good ears exclamating something of the same, then suddenly a musical sound is a sound that the experienced ear thinks has [b]promise[/b]. This concept is not very far fetched for me, as it is very similar to a usual concept for composers and players: that of reacting similarly to a tone or a few tones, to a timbre or to one single chord. Edit: Colgraff in essence beat me to it. Beautifully worded, as usual.

The yearly national TV fundraising in Norway this year is for the benefit of the preservation of the rain forest. Sting is going to perform in the tv programme, and he has donated "one of his basses" as they state it for an auction. (Highest bid right now is roughly £2,500.) Me, I feel there's something fishy going on, and guess it's just some sort of generic, new Fender Precision Sting signature. Does anyone recognise it? Here's the auction: https://www.blomqvist.no/nettauksjon/nettobjekt/%C3%98L//211691/(pathOverride)/search-sting And this is the bass as shown in the auction. [URL=http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/basstractor1/media/Stings%20bass%20NRK%20tv-aksjon_zpsbzoceaoz.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r525/basstractor1/Stings%20bass%20NRK%20tv-aksjon_zpsbzoceaoz.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

A teacher of mine would walk into a corn field with a tape deck and a microphone, and record the sounds that were around. Back in the studio, he'd essentially take the cool bits and release the final result as a work. I deeply loved his music, so I can't answer the question without taking context into the equation.

[quote name='phil.c60' timestamp='1445168307' post='2889215'] Is this Wonderwal? [/quote] Close! It's the Wonderful Land Wal. (actually the Journey to the Centre Wal, but that's a mere detail)

[quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1445086839' post='2888712'] At the risk of repeating myself, the Ancient Greeks didn't do scales the way we do scales. [...] When the text talks about a 12-note musical scale the reference is almost certainly to the sequence of intervals created by a method called Pythagorean tuning (hint: Wikipedia is your friend here). [/quote] I've removed a lengthy reply to this because it was... er... long, and people can't be expected to read and understand it all, much because of my limited English. However: The Greeks, when layering fifths either had no notion of an octave, and did not wrap the row of fifths so it became a circle (thusly dividing an octave in 12 steps), or they did. If they did not, then your allowing the wolf fifth and the Pythagorean comma into this thread adds to the confusion. Both have strong, direct relations to latter day scales - both with 12 steps per octave. If they did, then what you wrote is fair game, but then you should accept the notion that they did build a scale roughly like we do, though for different purposes. Dunno who was the addressee of the Wikipedia hint, but in case it's me, allow me to clarify that I taught this stuff in music college, so I'm not a complete beginner. Not trying to use that as a crowbar, but trying to be clear and to avoid misunderstandings. Also, it's roughly 35 years ago for me, so I do not claim to know this stuff by heart now. Whatever the case may be, the article still was unclear about the row of notes and what it was (what order for example) and what that twelfth note was that the other notes were compared to. I still believe the article's author failed to understand the subject matter. Dincz' use of the fifth as our fifth interval probably is a misunderstanding. But if it is indeed our fifth, then the rest of the article's sentence around that becomes quite absurd. I think it's more probably that it's the fifth tone in the row and its frequency relationship to the twelfth tone in the row. We have not been told which tones these are, and I'm not gonna use time to check different alternative explanations for validity.

[quote name='dincz' timestamp='1445080553' post='2888643'] "dissonant fifth". I guess we're talking about a very different scale then? [/quote] In a 12 note scale (one that goes from root note to root note over one octave), the fifth note within the scale would not constitute what we call a "fifth", which is in interval. If the root note is the first note, then the 5th note would be what we call a major third. However, note that in the article, the different notes of the scale are being compared with what they call the 12th - - not with the first. I do not know which is the 12th note. For all I know, it might be the root note, and they start counting with what we would consider the minor second. I'm convinced though that the article is lacking in explaining the link between a musical 12 note scale (which is exponential), and the (different?) sizes of chunks of text. I think it's likely the author of the article did not understand the research.

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1444981957' post='2887761'] I'm in... where can I buy some? [/quote] Great! I'll put down your name. Gimme some time and I'll take care of everything. It will be a BC-only Marital BassCase. [quote] The rule is going to be that she can only have more shoes if there is space in the marital bass case for them... If there isn't then a new case must be purchased and I may fill my half with another bass... [/quote] Ah. So my English is worse than I thought. I thought I'd written exactly that. [quote] You sir are a genius. [/quote] Yeah, that started to dawn on me too. Until yesterday, I was too smart to understand how smart I was - - the famous Dunning-Inverse-Kruger Effect, a quite normal capacity of Dutchmen.

Oh my gawd. I just invented the marital bass case: it's double layer, and in one half you store 1 (one) bass, whilst in the detachable half, you store 5 (five) pairs of her pumps. The crux of course is in the rules: if she wants more shoes, this will only go if there's space left in a readily bassed marital bass case. Of course, amateurs or people on a budget might opt for the cupboard solution: one cupboard for shoes means two cupboards for basses. They're larger, innit.