BassTractor

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1444912424' post='2887240'] You guys with loads of basses (of which I am most jelous) do you have cases for them all? If so, where are the cases? [/quote] Yup, with the exception of maybe one that will get a case later. They're all in cupboards, where normal people keep lots of clothes hanging on coat hangers. Normally sized basses stand, and on top of those cases, the Steinberger, Daisy Rock and Ashbory types are lying.

[quote name='funkgod' timestamp='1444702183' post='2885193'] Yep, some people collect stamps some people collect blow lamps [/quote] Maybe I worded poorly. It's not about collecting for me at all, but about learning and experiencing that what I read about.

Sorry, there is no cure. This is normal.

Words from the wise!

[quote name='Shonks' timestamp='1444382250' post='2882689'] Switching it on, it read .083 kw [...] Switching on the Markbass (at low volume) and it went up to .116 kw. turning the volume up .119 kw. I think my reading is per hour. [/quote] It's not per hour though. It's the Wattage (a level) at that very moment. If you use 1,000 W for 1 hour, then you'll have used 1 kWh. The meter tells you that the MarkBass uses 116 - 83 W, which is 33 W. When you then turn up the volume, this goes up to 36 W. This is as predicted. The 25 W amp would use slightly less electricity for the same volume of sound.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1444351006' post='2882558'] "Different Strokes For Different Strokes". I agree, I don't clearly understand it, but I agree. [/quote] I think an explanation of British culture is called for here. "Different strokes for different strokes" is a live thing. If someone's wood needs to be "shed" (now I've heard that one too), then they prefer to do it in front of an audience. In the bedroom, however, it's "Different folks for different folks". No stroking going on there. Thought you might like to know.

[quote name='Shonks' timestamp='1444342462' post='2882511'] so where does that leave me regarding the original inquiry? . . . i feel like I'm back to square one. [/quote] Sorry. I've been wording less than carefully, forgetting your OP and going into a more general approach. Nothing has changed. You have a regular solid state amp with output transistors, and it will use power as stated earlier - meaning it will use hardly any electricity in bedroom conditions. As indicated earlier, MarkBass do strive with the English language. Edit to add that I've written wrongly too - - the curse of editing without reading through the result before posting. I've corrected that bit in my previous post.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1444342216' post='2882510'] Stuff that doesn't happen in the bedroom. [/quote] I always liked gigging, but now I'm starting to doubt. Maybe there are good reasons to be in the bedroom. Stuff that happens in the bedroom happens there!

[quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1444336710' post='2882448'] Instrument rigs normally use Class B or Class AB IIRC. As I said though I'm very rusty on this stuff as I haven't practised it in 25 years or more. [/quote] I'm rusty too, but: Yup! Class B or AB, with output transistors rather than output transformators. If there are output transformators in a solid state amp (but that is rare and possibly always was rare), then my rustiness is too large for me to say anything about the power consumption.

[quote name='Shonks' timestamp='1444323459' post='2882274'] the 'tightarse app'? [/quote] Thanks! I'll visit my nearest electric device shop tomorrow, and just ask for a hardware tightarse app. [quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1444324037' post='2882279'] You can get a free 'energy meter' from some suppliers, it didn't take long for the novelty to wear off but they are good [/quote] Thanks! I used one to monitor the waterbed's energy use, and it did eventually manage to calm down the then wife. Now though, I need one to monitor my heat pump, as, for technical reasons, it's on the mains of my ex's part of the house. She's afraid I might underpay her. Ha! Talk about one who needs a tightarse app!

[quote name='Shonks' timestamp='1444322400' post='2882264'] If I get a huge energy bill because of any misinformation here, you'll be hearing from me.....!! [/quote] You grossly underestimate the power of me deleting my post the very morning your energy bill comes in. BTW, allow me to abuse this thread for a question together with a hint: there exist gadgets that you plug in the mains, and in which you can plug the kettle lead for your amp. These gadgets will be able to tell you how many kWh or Wh have been consumed by the amp since the last reset. They will also be able to tell the Wattage at any given moment. That was the hint. The question is: what is such a gadget called in English?

Yup. There must be something that was lost in translation, because it was nonsense - also what your techie said. These are solid state amps with transistors, yes? In case, 600W is just the maximum it can use for some time (disregarding certain spikes). Some of the energy goes to warmth, and some goes to light and other losses. 500W is the musical output. Normally such an amp is considerably hotter when blasting than when being idle, so when you take out only 25W, chances are the amp uses no more than 30 to 50 W, though probably slightly more than the 25W amp would (I've seen both 30W and 35W on the stickers on the back panel on those). Such an amp can not deliver 500W music output and use only 300W to do it. A heat pump could do it though, but it tends to sound worse.

I love gigging, and for me it's always been about communicating with an audience. BUT since I'm a classical organist at heart, despite having gigged a lot more with jazz and rock music, it's about communicating something about the music that might be new to the audience. I have no interest whatsoever to play something and they'll know beforehand exactly how it's gonna be played. Not that I disrespect an audience that wants to listen to perfect covers of well-known stuff. They're just no my audience. I'm there for new musical experiences. It may come as no surprise then, that for me it's about the music itself, and about conveying my respect for the composer of the material. ...and since it's about the music itself, I do not [b]need[/b] to gig, but could always just play the music in my head, or make up music in my head. I just [b]prefer[/b] to gig. If others prefer to sit in the bedroom and play what they want to hear themselves, that's cool too, and it certainly does not deserve any form of disrespect.

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1444283119' post='2881785'] gigging is why I`m in a band: Yes. I love rehearsing and recording, but gigging is the main thing for me. [/quote] Fixed. Hate to be a forum nazi, but you do need to take more care with your punctuation. I'm glad I was there to rescue you. Congrats, BTW.

Sickeningly large number, and really don't need them at all. I need one bass. Why this number then? Because of huge curiosity combined with the wish to learn about basses - the feel, the sound, the this, the that... When I'm done learning (insert shrewd smiley here), then I'll bring back the number to one or a few at most.

Sheesh! A whole lousy thread just because I photoshopped my avatar a bit? C'mon! My blue Daisy Rock just didn't fit with the rest of me nor with the colours in the pic. Pink is betterer!

Must say I was disappointed with the vid. Little discipline if you ask me. I mean: Richard moved his head while singing and Phil... well... Phil sometimes moved most of his upper body, and he even at some point slightly changed the angle of his guitar's neck relative to the floor. I got seasick, and hastily put on a classical church organ vid to recoup.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1443830453' post='2878096'] I'd want a new one for that kind of money. [/quote] Silly boy! The new ones are on the shelf underneath, and go for £79.99.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1443454034' post='2874831'] It's the same with chord sequences. I don't find one of the examples given by BassTractor better than the other. In fact I don't really like the musicality of either of them and if I had to have a preference it would be for the second one. [/quote] Now I'm sorry I tried to keep the word count to a minimum in order to fight my natural verbosity. My example was not meant as a litteral example of how one song could start with or incorporate one certain chord sequence, in which case I-IV-V-I certainly would be more run of the mill, whilst I-IV-VII-VII might have something original and a promise of more depth. Instead I meant them as archetypes (goes without saying I mean inside traditional, tonical music). In this case, the first mentioned is the steady, dependable chord change that has all the elements of stability, power away from stability and power back to stability, whereas the last mentioned simply isn't doable within the context, as it's totaly unresolved. Governed by physics as they are, music history and music theory could never have resulted in a I-IV-VII-VII standard sequence. This is where i called I-IV-V-I, for lack of a more adequate term, "better".

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1443437439' post='2874581'] Other than convention give me a good reason why tapping/clapping on beats 1 and 3 is wrong. [/quote] You might as well ask "other than convention give me a good reason why I-IV-V-I is better than I-IV-VII-VII". This stuff has to do with how human musicality has developed over centuries, governed by physics. There are several conventions. Clapping on 1 and 3 is one of them. The fact that clapping on 2 and 4 has become a more popular convention, I feel is due to people's notion that clapping on 1 and 3 is overtly square, is not very alive and does not add any drive to the feel of the meter. I think it's the less musical choice. AFAIK, musical children will change their clapping accordingly at some point in their development, not driven by convention but driven by their own feel. I for one did, even though convention in my conservative protestant circles in the early sixties dictated clapping on 1 and 3.

A saxophone player dies, and this time things are normal and he's sent directly to Hull. There seems to be a golden rim to the dark cloud though, as he's admitted to the Hull Big Band. The charts are dense though, and being in the saxophone row is unbelievably hard work, so he turns to the next guy to whisper: - "When do the solos start?", upon which his neigbour replies: - "No solos."

I think I may have told this in the Bad Jokes thread already, and it's probably not exactly what you're after, but what the Heaven: A saxophonist dies, and for some reason unbeknownst to man, he's accepted in Heaven. St. Peter takes him to the Heavenly Big Band where he gets to play with some of the greats. Satchmo's there. Bird's there. They're all there! At some point he hears a solo from a stopped trumpet, but initially can't see the trumpet player. After some time though, he realises the trumpet player is the guy standing on the side of the band, dressed in an expensive Italian suit, and having his back turned to the audience. Our guy asks who the Hull that is, and the guy next to him answers: - "Him? Oh, that's just God. He thinks he's Miles Davis!"

Boy am I glad I finally opened this thread anyway. That was fantastic! Thanks for posting.

[quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1442910791' post='2870354'] Yes, I,m a Fender fanboy but I have no intention of shoving it down peoples' throats. [/quote] You know, at this point I'm just sorry you aren't on a mobile platform that posts the same thing four or five times. It would have been more fun.