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I too was there, and thought it was overwhelmingly fantastic on first listen. After that first listen though, I prefer Rubber Soul, Revolver, Abbey Road and that Phil Spector wall-of-sound thingy. Will give it a new spin though, as I still did buy the CD.

Thanks for drawing my attention to "A Curious Feeling". I've never heard it, but am sufficiently intrigued now. As to the the greatest prog album, I wouldn't be able to choose at all, but for me the most [s]archetypal[/s] edit: iconic one would probably be "Close to the Edge". However, I don't trust my choice there, as CttE happens to be the album of my life. Others: Gentle Giant: The Power and The Glory Van der Graaf: The Quiet Zone / The Pleasure Dome Frank Zappa: Jazz from Hell The (Dixie) Dregs: Unsung Heroes

[quote name='ladywithabass' timestamp='1438941102' post='2838790'] Peavey 115 TNT I have read somewhere they are indestructable. [/quote] Yes, they are. Just do NOT turn the special key ten times and press the red T handle down. You should be OK as long as you avoid that. ;-) My Peavey practice combo is roughly 25 years old, and it doesn't even have noisy pots. Perfec! :-) Welcome from another Dutchie - one who started with bass at age 55. I hope you'll enjoy BC like most do. It's basically a friendly place with decent people.

Yes. They normally go by air. Nike Air. :-)

[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1438869633' post='2838253'] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]And it's not every well-loved, iconic bass player who gets an entire range of basses named after him by Fender [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color] [/quote] Hehehe. Ya know, a Dutch musicians' mag once stated that in all seriousness, and they had even noticed the difference in spelling. .

Skylarking, Oranges & Lemons, Nonsuch, Apple Venus Volume 1 To my ears, they are four of their very best albums, and, if one disregards the Dukes of Stratosphear's "Psonic Psunspot", these albums were made consecutively, and after the mentioned breakdown. My take would be that that breakdown did NOT have a negative effect on their music. Also, do we really know the exact nature of the breakdown and its effect on Partridge's health in the decades after it? I guess we do not. I do agree with the OP's warm words regarding Moulding though.

If their original Dutch site is anything to go by, I'd say: buy with confidence. I've nothing but praise for Bax-shop in their Dutch guise, and prefer them above Thomann as they have been clearly better with pre-order communication, are stellarly quick, and are great with aftersales service like warranties and returns, whilst maintaining good prices. However, as I communicated with both Thomann and Bax-shop in Dutch, the whole experience might be slightly different for Brits communicating in English with both. IME, the Dutch department of Thomann often do not understand the same question that Bax-shop understand immediately, and also, Bax-shop have been far better at returning with the info the customer needs rather than the answer that saves them some time. Highly recommended.

Bloody bad advice! My new band Rickenbacker 4003 immediately received less-than-agreeable e-mails. Don't do this, people! (Other than that: pure genius! )

[quote name='sykilz' timestamp='1437121593' post='2823694'] Steven Wilson performing The Raven That Refused To Sing. [/quote] Thanks for posting that. I enjoyed it a lot. Also nice that you wrote something about the song and your experiences with it. I think I need to edit my post.

Too many to mention, but I share Bilbo's reaction to Ravel's Bolero. Among other pieces it was istrumental in me becoming a musician. Others: Focus: "Sylvia" Yes: "Roundabout" Scritti Politti: "The Word Girl" Living Colour: "Type" as well as ... drum roll ... Mantovani: "Charmaine", some kind of 20s ballroom melody in so-called "cascading strings" wrapping. I'd never heard part of the orchestra playing the previous note(s) so as to create an orchestrated echo/reverb effect. Also, the melody itself invoked Beethoven feelings with me, which was a good thing in my young book: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__tm_j8FPl0[/media]

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1436206898' post='2816010'] [i]Jeg er enig i at omgivelsene er en god egg, med rette stor tillit og talent i bøtter og spann; nok til å risikere utredning, og så kan børste av noen snidy vittigheter med letthet. Han er usannsynlig å vinne en "volum krig", selv om ..![/i] It may have lost something in translation, but I wouldn't know..! Yes, basically just confirming that ambient is OK. [/quote] I don't suppose it lost [b]anything[/b] in translation, as it means: "[i]I agree that surroundings are a good knife's edge, rightfully big trust and talent in buckets and nine kilograms; enough to risk thorough survey, and so can brush off some[/i] ... [snidy] ... [i]sally. He is unlikely to win a "volume war", even though..![/i]"

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1436197558' post='2815862'] (assuming you weren't 'trying' to be sarcastic..? ) [/quote] LOL. No, no attempts at sarcasm here. Just trying to be serious, open and direct - - whilst knowing full well that some people might assume I'm posteriorlicking instead. My limited English sadly makes I don't understand the rest of your post, but I gather it's all good.

Well, I for one am relieved it isn't me. I really am that funny, and only _think_ I'm being sarcastic. But on a serious note I'll say this: Dad, I hope you weren't being serious in checking whether it was you. I'm sure you've been nothing but extremely nice and helpful, especially as ambient is one of the people on BC who've had the balls to show also their weak sides.

[quote name='M@23' timestamp='1436132742' post='2815306'] You're obviously qualified to, if you can hear it. [/quote] Ain't that the truth. The Bible does not state: "In the beginning God created the Big Bang and He saw it just wasn't good enough, so then He also created music theory". It's musical ears that created music theory - - as a reflection of our shared musical experiences. The qualification is in the ears. The old joke of "just call it Jazz" does reflect that one can often not be entirely sure, but as I said above, the vast body of music listeners is well qualified to hear the bum notes in improvs in regular settings.

I think the guitarist does have a point. Sadly though it's a bum point. Then again, I'm not a pointillist, so I'm not qualified to comment. So I won't. Seriously though, if we may take your description of the music and the bum notes for granted, he's simply wrong. The vast body of music enjoyers are adequately equipped to hear bum notes like the ones you describe. Being a musician does not come into the picture at all. Musicality does of course come in all kinds of varieties, as does formal music education, but higher levels of both only mean one can judge more advanced types of music with more confidence. It does not even mean one is right (though chances of that do grow IME). As a point in case, I've been discussing pop and rock music with some of the great composers of new classical music. How they missed the boat (IMHO of course), as they only saw popular music's formal simplicity, and seemed unable to grasp that there's more to it than being advanced on paper.

As many other bands, Yes now is corporate bizniz - - a bizniz that will try to survive and will try and maximise profit. If my impression is correct that it was mainly Chris Squire who couldn't muster Jon Anderson anymore, I think there's no chance at all that the others are not thinking that they must at least do their very best to try and incorporate Jon Anderson again. Nobody knows if that will happen, of course, but my bet in that case is they will at least have talks with him, and I do feel we'll see "with special guest star" concerts rather soon.

Same story here: my very first regular wages went to "Fragile", and I was floored both by the music and by the bass parts and bass sound. "Close to the Edge" kinda repeated that feat, and especially the bass part of "Total Mass Retain" was a personal eyeopener to me as to what was possible in popular music. I see Chris Squire as a visionary bass player within rock music, and I understand he had a great influence on other bass players. Thanks, Chris! R.I.P. Here's the "Total Mass Retain" part from the "Close to the Edge" track: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3Z3IKLl3cE[/media]

[quote name='Spoombung' timestamp='1435478009' post='2809041'] on the subject of correct intonation, I do think it's the most overrated aspect of music. [/quote] That explains a lot. . . . . Sorry, I just could not resist. In real life, I do love Spoombung's stuff.

I never knew Cliff died in a plane accident, and that he was found whilst his bass or even the Orion plane itself was not. I'm happy Metallica's Orion with Cliff's bass have turned up again, but I do feel stupid for having believed those stories about the bus accident in Sweden. The plane was just rented probably? Just like Maiden's?

She's obviously a shallow one, she. I think the best thing to do is not responding directly, but to just continue your little inbetween-songs banter about the development of Weltschmerz as a direct result of Sturm und Drang thinking, and Kierkegaard's criticism of it all. Enlightened, she'll turn around! I'm sure.

Thanks for this thread. JG is one of the guys who pulled me towards the bass, and you guys inspired me to pull out Stormwatch again after a long hiatus. "Hunting Girl", yes! Also "Songs from the Wood" is a personal fave. Luvverly song AND bass playing. Me too, I'm grateful I caught him live twice. The first time I was unaware of him, and disappointed Jeffrey H. wasn't there, but JG quickly won me over. Dunno if it was mentioned yet, but apart from his parts and his playing prowess, for me personally the SOUND of it all was something unheardly new and hugely inspiring. RIP

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1434886348' post='2803548'] A quick Google tells me that formant relates to human speech. [/quote] Not exclusively, and at any rate it doesn't detract from my point that an instrument has a physical DNA: the part that does not change on a per note basis, whilst timbre simply is about the resulting sound you get when combining the instrument's "formant" (or what one calls it) with one's playing and with all the settings etc. Though not strictly true scientifically, I think one can well say that the formant is those capacities of the instrument that make that one can recognise a Precision or a StingRay even when played with different techniques and different equipment settings. [quote name='TimR' timestamp='1434886348' post='2803548'] I think an instrument's timbre is what differentiates a piano from a trumpet etc. [/quote] Yes, but since "timbre" is about the resulting sound, many tones emitted from that trumpet will have wildly different timbres as well. In some cases different instrument tones are so similar in timbre that one is hard pressed to decide which instrument is responsible, like the famed voice-like qualities of the cello. E.g. a slightly smaller violin with thinner walls probably has a different formant than a slightly larger one with thicker walls, and most of the time one might be able to hear which of them is being played. The moment however they emit tones with identical timbre, the human ears stops being able to differentiate those two violins.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1434868633' post='2803354'] That's timbre. [...] The fingers won't affect the timbre. [/quote] I'm not sure, but I think you're talking about formant - the instrument's physical DNA as it were. Timbre is the sounding result, and very much so affected by the fingers.

Yup! Got my postcard this morning! He's earning a lot of money and wants to share with me, asking for my bank details 'n' stuff. I'm looking forward to writing in the boys toys thread.