BassTractor

[quote name='Earbrass' timestamp='1412174528' post='2566456'] any others you'd recommend? [/quote] My memory is failing me right now, so I've asked a bunch of friends somewhere else. They are bound to come back with some good ones. In the mean time: how traditional would you like it to be? Are you aware of Hinn Íslenzski Thursaflokkur aka. Thursaflokkurin? Their album "Thursabit" seems great.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1412160696' post='2566220'] I'm sorry but I really don't get the point of Dirty Loops. It seems to me to be "music" made solely for the purpose of impressing other musicians. Sure they've all got impressive technical skills on their instruments, but IMO the song should always come first over technique, and unfortunately in their case it doesn't. Their output appears to be overplayed covers of pop songs that mostly lose the elements that made those songs catchy and popular in the first place, and their own compositions are weak in comparison. [/quote] Possibly surprisingly, even though I do like this song, I really, really strongly dislike when musicians do stuff for the purpose of impressing other musicians. This song however, does not give me that impression. To me it comes across as a musically felt travel through rhythm and harmonic development, and one that reaches me on an emotional level. I wouldn't have it any other way. Whilst this too may surprise you, to me the song should always come first over technique. It's a pet peeve of mine. In this case, the technique doesn't bother me at all. To me it's just a means to reach a goal, and that goal seems to me to be a musical one. I don't know the rest of their output, and had no idea this was a cover. To me this was just a new song. BUT in hindsight, I feel that there was talk about it in an older thread (but my memory is damaged, and I sadly do forget some stuff). As a result, the aspect of losing elements that made the originals catchy has escaped me. I don't imagine that I would run to a music shop and buy their CD(s) based on this song, but it was a well spent 3 minutes and 5 seconds before they started to lose me slightly. As I've relayed in a previous Dirty Loops thread, on the Dutch bass forum I myself reacted negatively against some Dutch music I felt was cold and a mere display of technique. I was however soon corrected by others who really enjoyed that same music on emotional, musical grounds. It made me see again we all have our different backgrounds, realities and viewpoints. I think I understand everything that has been written in this thread (can never be sure: English really is not my language, and I constantly see that people will not see or believe how central that point is), but still do not get what exactly makes Dirty Loops stand out among all the purveyors of dross that warrants three bashing threads in few months. They must be special somehow. [quote name='Cairobill' timestamp='1412170071' post='2566387'] This is music for musos fundamentally, which does't mean that it's dross…it's just …erm…niche… [/quote] That may well be a very, very good point. There are lots of examples of guitarists' guitarists and composers' composers - that kinda thing. [b]Solved! [/b] Dirty Loops is the dross's dross.

Thanks for posting! It's a band I like, but that I've heard little of the last decade. But you kicked me into action again: Must . Search . CD . Shelves. As to the lyrics, this is what LyricWikia says: Oh thou Ukko and thou Akka Weavers all of winds and weather Pray I do to a black man Raise a wind and make it whirling Raise a wind and make it whirling Make a gale that's great and growing Tear up tar stumps off the roadside Pull the pine trees off the lake shore Break the tops of giant oak trees Crash their robust roots to splinter Rise thou wind to blow and bellow Gust and gale to whirl all over Rise thou wind to blow and bellow Rage and rave, thou angry weather, Blow thou wind through more than six years Rage through summers more than seven Rapids rise to rush in torrents Aged waters to run swiftly And thou self rush like the rapids And prevail without a hindrance Pray I do to a black man Raise a wind and make it whirling Raise a wind and make it whirling Make a gale that's great and growing

Ah! Well, I do hope it makes a lot more noise than these electric Up! ones that sneak up on you, the creepy besturds. Although something tells me it might.

[quote name='pfretrock' timestamp='1412158782' post='2566183'] my home built Fuzz and Octavia [/quote] You, sir, have my deepest respect. Dunno the Fuzz though. Is that a Skoda as well?

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1412112935' post='2565890'] I always thought that forums were about opinions. Perhaps in future if we think something is awful it's best if we all say we like to please those who do. Perhaps there should be a sticky saying that so in future we all know. [/quote] Well: [quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1412112083' post='2565872'] Some people enjoy this music, and some don't. Sounds normal to me. [/quote] Three bashing threads in a few months remains special, and I still wonder what is so special about exactly Dirty Loops' insipid dross.

It's a well known fact that anything that is not Evan Parker, AMM, J.S. Bach or Krzysztof Penderecki is insipid dross, so why the harsh condemnation of exactly this insipid dross? The OP likes it. Several others, admittedly including me, like it. Some people enjoy this music, and some don't. Sounds normal to me. Yet, Dirty Loops almost seems to be kinda unique in gathering all the antis for shared condemnation with harsh wording. Also, this is the third Dirty Loops bashing thread in just a few month, and this time, the OP even specifically asked for opinions about the bass player. FWiW; whilst I do appreciate his playing, I did feel that in this track his timing could be slightly more laid back and rounded. We're talking details here, and I only wrote it so as to comply with what the OP was in fact asking about.

What? WHAT? W H A T ? ? You don't even recognise fellow bass player Malcolm Cecil? Me neither. Or rather, I did recognise Malcolm Cecil, but had no idea he's a bass player. The monster behind him, btw, is TONTO - reportedly the largest modular synth ever. IMS it consisted of modules and keyboards from a range of brands, necessitating they built all kinds of circuitry to "translate" the control signals between systems. Any self respecting bass player in need of some bass synth sounds should get one or two of these.

[quote name='witterth' timestamp='1411906663' post='2563722'] sorry BT for not being all things to all men .. were would we be without police like you? you got my point though.......sigh......thanks for the repair. [/quote] Well, I was just being friendly, and provided the embedding without making a fuss about it, expecting everyone to understand what had happened, and why I did that. If I understand your English correctly, you took it in a quite different way, which is a shame. It also saddens me.

http://youtu.be/i8q6sR6yZCE

[quote name='HowieBass' timestamp='1411898632' post='2563575'] I wonder how bad the singer gets it in U2 tribute bands? [/quote] Drunkard, at the top of his voice: - "But I don't want the new tribute band album on my phone :-("

I think the essence is in how the communication went when, after the toy throwing, you told him/them: - I'm not playing there anymore - I'm not booking any gigs - I need time off If, at that point, he/they said. "C'mon, PS, let's think this one through, yeah!?!?", then yes, they should've told you. If, however, they said: "Sorry to see you go, PS", then no. You resigned, and they started looking for someone else.

[quote name='StinkingBass' timestamp='1411814878' post='2563015'] Is this Absolute guitars in Backwell Near Bristol? [/quote] What are your reasons for getting an account and asking this question on a thread that... ...er... ...well... [URL=http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/basstractor1/media/Threadresurrection_zps7c109ddd.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r525/basstractor1/Threadresurrection_zps7c109ddd.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

That's maxiporn! Fond memories. I think my Philicorda was exactly like that one, or yours may even be my old one: I seem to recognise the finger wear around the knobs. :-) Great space for a synth on top too. I think I've alreayd commented on the Phat one on another forum. Congrats with both!

Ha! Finally something where I can beat RhysP. Three books, and I've looked at a page in one of them.

Nope. Didn't know about it, and wouldn't have had the money either back then. I just trawled Europe and the US for unsold ones.

Here are them pics. Sorry for their belatedness, or rather my belatedness in taking them: [URL=http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/basstractor1/media/IMG_1230_zpsd0485cda.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r525/basstractor1/IMG_1230_zpsd0485cda.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/basstractor1/media/IMG_1232_zpsaf1d8eab.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r525/basstractor1/IMG_1232_zpsaf1d8eab.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/basstractor1/media/IMG_1233_zps4ba1bf2b.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r525/basstractor1/IMG_1233_zps4ba1bf2b.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[quote name='drTStingray' timestamp='1411764513' post='2562679'] you should post a pic of your Neptune blue SR's headstock - droolworthy neck - when's the Bongo due? [/quote] Hadn't I done so? I'm sure I had in that I-never-understood-people-and-their-NBDs thread. The Bongo is said to be due in December.

@AT: Today's spam day, you see. Some of the same stuff goes on at the Dutch bass forum. I guess these sellers have been to a weekend course in forum manipulation.

Neptune Blue and a flamed, roasted maple neck? I don't understand the taste that some people have... But each to their own, I guess. Congrats, Dr. T! That's one of the finest ones right there. PS for the uninitiated: I'm a sucker for these, as Dr. T knows very well.

Thanks, mate.

[quote name='lucky' timestamp='1411477539' post='2559862'] If the humbucker was placed further up (towards the neck) than 53cm, is there any way to guestimate how that will affect the sound? [/quote] Not much scientific study has been done into this, but it's a concept that I feel deserves some looking into. That is: IF you are able to pull it off without routing away the truss rod, and given that the pup is indeed not wider than the neck up there. Cool idea! Good luck with this! (Sorry. Couldn't resist.)

Hei Åsmund, og velkommen! Do you know the RS 212 at all? I mean, have you heard it with other heads? You see, I think it's a little risky to buy it untried, as it has this rough edgeness to it that might or might not fit the TH OR your taste, though this edge may well disappear in a band mix. I've only heard them with TC heads, and without a band. Exciting cab though, in my mind, and one well worth trying out. Where did you get the TH? I don't see them in Norway anymore.

I admit to being a sucker for this kind of I-IV-V-I stuff, and enjoyed it despite the truth in 4 Strings' words, and I lurv it when you get to hear two or three bass tones at the same time like this. What did they do to that singer's voice though? Electro Harmonix Pet Shop Boy pedal in the studio?

Thanks, Unca P! Sadly, the cover I mean certainly didn't have the Andy Warhol thing in any form or colour setting, It was a cover like a female singer in the fifties or sixties, with doubt, could have. I vividly remember contemplating the possibility that it indeed was a Marilyn Monroe album, and concluding that it might be. Thanks though! ...but I feel inspired to relate a little story from when I entered a shop with that exact portrait printed on my t-shirt some years later. Upon seeing me with it, the shop owner gladly exclaimed: "Andy Warhol!" Her assistant then bursted out: "You're nuts! That's Jayne Mansfield!"