BassTractor

I liked that a lot, but it will never become a fave despite the rather lovely accompaniment, due to the conservative melody and Bowie showing litte sign of being able to pull this off. He totally lacks authority in my ears, and seems a follower of the band, not a soloist. Still like it.

Seeing as October 10th marks the day in 1969 that both "Hot Rats" and "In the Court of the Crimson King" were released, I've been playing them: [media]http://youtu.be/qKWNVXwlAk4[/media] and [url="http://youtu.be/-q85kN7m1eo?list=PLRQKT-Cu2_2TlvATF-RUhKMHxt2Sz5h-9"]http://youtu.be/-q85...RUhKMHxt2Sz5h-9[/url] Good day.

[quote name='Geek99' timestamp='1412928134' post='2573299'] Wasn't there a westone that came with two necks back in the late 80s ? [/quote] Yes, indeed there was. Thanks for reminding me. It came (or could come, Idunno) with a case that had a neat space for the extra neck. I think this must have been no later than 1986, probably before, as it was in a mag I subscribed to until '85/'86. Must still have that mag somewhere.

SmallDawg, the trick with AmpKit is to wait for their special offers. IMS these amps can often be had for one fourth of the price or so.

[quote name='rk7' timestamp='1412763011' post='2571676'] How did you know about the quattro, although I do like the XC70. [/quote] Ask Roland Rock himself! I only knew about the Tritto.

[quote name='rk7' timestamp='1412762090' post='2571660'] and it is red! [/quote] Sigh. Took you quite some time to get down to the essence! That CVD sounds like genius. The damping factor is sooo important. Thanks for the heads up, and best wishes for the operation!

Good call, AT!

Personally, I'd prefer a second hand combo with aux in and headphones out, as I dislike being forced to always use headphones. As for the linked solutions, I've tried the Vox Amplug and strongly disliked it for its lacking sound quality, but many on here love it and say its sound is good. The iRig is loved by some, disliked by others. Dunno why, but a search should help. I use an iRiffPort into my iPad using the 30 pin Apple dock connector (because back then there was an article explaining how much better the sound was from that way of doing it), and I love it. One must be sure the dock plug is safe though, either by being careful or for example by mounting the i-machine onto a base plate that sticks out where the pluck is connected. There are enough amp apps that are free or cheap and that come with some free effects of the in-app-purchase type. Personally, I use AmpKit+, and am very satisfied with it, but reportedly there are better ones out there. BTW, if you do happen to have an Apple phone or pad already, you can still plug that into a combo and still get the app's effects that way, but this solution would be above budget as you'd need the iRiffPort or similar in addition to the combo. Edit: I originally stated I use the iRig. It appears I use the iRiffPort. Sorry!

C'mon! How can he write here with his fingers all over and inside Aurora?

[quote name='bassace' timestamp='1412677180' post='2570897'] Cruise ship gig = two reasons for throwing up. [/quote] Ya know, I have friends who went on that cruise... ...at least I [b]thought[/b] they were friends...

[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1412614915' post='2570425'] Quattro [/quote] Dunno about that. The XC70 is cheaper, and...

One technically well-informed person (don't remember who and don't remember which thread, but you might try a search or three) explained that [b]in principle[/b], given the right components and design, and amp could well deliver 500 W to that 8 Ohm load. However, reality being reality and budgets being budgets, in this case of Ashdown it's not unreasonable to expect that it might deliver something like two thirds of that into 8 Ohm. To be able to be precise, one must either have the data sheet from Ashdown, or calculate through the amp design. As to what two cabs will do, enormous amounts of text have been written about that on these boards, so I'd advise a search or four. The skinny is: yes! (presuming that with "another" cab you do mean "connecting an additional" one, and not "using a different" one). Me, I'm not a tech, but my feeling is two cabs are more [b]effective[/b] than one, for different reasons, and that given the same total volume, they will give a sound more true to the intentions of the amp. I may be corrected on this.

Tritto

[quote name='Geek99' timestamp='1412607434' post='2570313'] Yes are playing venues like westcliffe on sea pavilion nowadays aren't they ? [/quote] Last year or so, they were seen and heard in a prog cruise of sorts (wasn't it called the Close to the Edge Cruise or something? Daft idea anyway: remember what happened to other shipfarers back in the days), where the cruise ship probably started in Florida, loading lots of bands, equipment and old, rich prog fans, after which it sailed between some Carribean islands, whilst the evenings were spent with prog gigs and banter. Apparently, the price list had the following rough shape: (don't take it too litterally. I'm working off memory and invention here) Prog cruise: £2,000 Prog cruise + all prog gigs minus Yes: £2,500 Prog cruise + all prog gigs incl. Yes: £3,500 "Compl. Cruise" (Complete Complex Prog cruise) = Prog cruise + all prog gigs + Yes Prog Cruise Special Lim.Ed T-Shirt: £3,700 Compl. Cruise + Yes Meet&Greet: £6.700 Compl. Cruise + May Say "You Haven't Actually Made A Good Album For Forty Years" Yes Meet&Greet: £11.700 Compl. Cruise + Steve Howe handshake Meet&Greet: £ 21.700 One would hope they raised enough pocket money so they could bring a roadie to the Westcliffe on Sea Pavilion.

I'm with Mrs. S's husband.

Give up the bass, Wayne! You're a natural drummer by birth.

I liked that a lot, so sadly it's insipid dross. Sorry, RR.

Now deceased Michael Vetter, who brought overtone singing to many people's attention some 30 years ago, is singing here with Natascha Nikeprelevic in some short shots: http://youtu.be/SMFf5gYQYmQ

[quote name='rogerstodge' timestamp='1412521251' post='2569536'] what happened? It won't play for me [/quote] I'm not sure to be honest. The band was not tight, and the bass player had a terribly badly tuned bass whilst seeming oblivious to this fact. So maybe something was very wrong in the monitoring, Idunno. At any rate, at some point the accompaniment stopped (I suspect Cee Lo Green gave them a sign), and he started expressing how frustrated he was and how bad this was. The bass player then tried to tune the bass, but with the next song it was roughly the same again: some notes (maybe the A string?) being too high. Frustration all around.

[quote name='visog' timestamp='1412518200' post='2569509'] And what where you teaching the rest of Yes? [/quote] I'm sorry for the confusion. My invented story was only meant to bring a little smile to some people's faces, and I honestly thought that that was clear. No intention of deceiving anyone. (BTW and for clarity, for those with elephant memory, my story in a thread not about 'name' bass players, one about Bill Bruford wanting to kick my butt after MY major cock-up, is a true one - though also only written down to bring a smile to some people's faces.)

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1412511975' post='2569439'] [size=4] You wouldn't be in need of a spell checker, by any chance..?[/size] [/quote] Hehehe. But no, I don't think so. I see three errors or what might be perceived as errors: - "ass" as in the Mercan spelling of "arse", which is my chosen way of doing it as I only know the Mercan expression "big ass" in this meaning, and am not aware of an English expression "big arse" - - though that lack of knowledge of course does not mean that such an expression does not exist. I doubt the spell checker will arrest me for it though. - "its", which is the result of a non-typical but grave oversight on my part, and one that the spell checker is hardly going to find. - "on" instead of "onto" which I suspect it must be. Another oversight that I can't imagine the spell checker will find. ...unless... ... if by "spell checker" you mean to indicate I should start assuming that I'm safe, and re-educate my faithful Ganymede so he can be my spell checker instead, in which case I must must have the manly courage to stand up against you and pronounce one resounding and clear "No, dad! For that, I lack the courage!" That, or you meant something else of course.

In the seventies, Daniel Wayenberg, famous Dutch pianist, made a major cock-up when performing Johns Cage's piece 4'33" in a tiny French village. Wayenberg and his team drove this large truck/van/lorry into the village centre, unloaded a concert grand and tuned it meticulously before Wayenberg sat down and performed the piece for the villagers, who of course had had ample time to come and see this marvel - seeing as the tuning took some time. However, the egg timer used by mr. Wayenberg was not that dependable, and it rang too early, and so the piece only lasted 3'57" before the concert grand was loaded into the truck again and the musician and his team made a hasty retreat, leaving a bunch of flabbergasted villagers who, as can be imagined, had never heard so short a version before. ...and as you can imagine, mr. Wayenberg's hat after this cock-up contained the royal sum of 0'00". (Edited slightly as Ganymede whispered some stuff into my ear.)

Don't know if anyone is helped by this, but just in case: If you have access to an analogue synth, it may be possible to build a very cheap solution with some types of pedal keyboards from old electronic organs. Electronic organs can be had for free ("collection only", you know), and some systems are built so that you can remove the pedals and have one octave that is still holding together, and not just a flock of loose components running away in all directions. BTW, many two-octave boards are built like this, but I assume most people will be after one-octave ones. Anyway, these pedals normally have big ass contacts, so its easy to solder stuff on them, and with mainly resistors one can wire these up in such a way that one can "send in" a voltage at one end and get out the correct control voltage at the other end depending on which key is being depressed. Very cheap and fully functional. This is strictly monophonic, mind. For polyphonic, you'd need some type of scanning - which I assume is more complicated and more expensive (never done that).