BassTractor

Welcome, Zach! Though for versatility, all you need is a StingRay and an Orange Terror Bass. Enjoy! bert

You're doing great, Al, and I'm sure it's much appreciated. I just found it a funny notion/concept that someone with a history since February welcomed someone with a history since July last year, that's all, and as you know I can never resist trying to joke about stuff. I'm easily inspired, but hardly inspiring. Oh, and may I use this opportunity to welcome Kiwi and Ped to BC!

[quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1403610611' post='2484391'] I have in the past asked the Gallery to price match and have been met with point blank refusal. [/quote] Hooray for The Gallery! My kinda shop.

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1403775213' post='2486116'] To be honest the beer holder is far from the most worrying thing about that photo..... [/quote] +1 Indeed, they're quite overpriced. For the same money you could get a Bongo!

[quote name='Allie' timestamp='1403768352' post='2485982'] Welcome to the light! [/quote] Really great minds think alike. ... but have you read the BC Terms of Use, Al? Are you sure you newbies are in fact allowed to welcome someone who's been here for a year?

Thanks for your kindness.

Welcome, Will! best, bert

[quote name='BottomE' timestamp='1403552484' post='2483878'] BassTractor i lost you halfway through the post [/quote] I don't blame you, mate. I had a terrible time trying to word both my posts, was painfully aware that I didn't get the clarity I was after, and was hoping that someone would chime in with better wording. Seeing that I lost you, please allow me to try and word this slower and possibly simpler. Mind you, I mean no disrespect! It's just that we all are different, and there are also other possible readers besides you - readers with all kinds of knowledge levels as to the physics of sound. It's about the speed at which sound travels and the consequences for the impact that a reflected sound has on the original sound. When a speaker is close to significant reflecting objects, then reflected sound added to the direct sound (this is mostly the same as amplitude modulation) will boost the sound at certain frequencies, nullify it at other frequencies and modify the overtone spectrum of yet other frequencies. Most typical example is when the reflected sound comes in and gets blended with the direct sound, but is exactly one half cycle late, so the positive amplitude from one source coincides with the negative amplitude of the other source. In this case they'd potentially nullify each other. When the time difference between direct sound and reflected sound gets bigger than a certain threshold (I think it's 50 ms, but may be wrong), the human ear starts recognising it as reflected sound, and this is some way reduces our experience of the modulation going on. I don't remember this stuff more exactly right now, but one should keep in mind that the attack phase of any tone is crucial for our evaluation of the tone, and therefore also the lag time that the reflected sound has is crucial, unless it is more than the threshold I mentioned. Anyway, since we know the speed of sound and we know the frequency of the first harmonic of every tone, we can quickly calculate crudely which distance to reflecting obejcts will likely have an effect on which tones we play on the bass. Since you said the nullifying was worst on the E and got gradually less bad on higher and higher notes (if this is ideed what you meant - I'm still not 100% sure I understood correctly), my immediate reaction was that this seemed like a typical case of reflected sound nullifying the direct sound. That does not mean however that this is the definite answer. It's merely one of the causes of certain frequencies being weak and others strong. Standing waves (closely related, but not identical), absorption and sympathic oscillation (probably the wrong term, but it's all I could come up with) are some of the others.

[quote name='ahpook' timestamp='1403625532' post='2484688'] Had to check that [/quote] Me too!

[quote name='Allie' timestamp='1403628504' post='2484720'] Oh dear Bert - thought you loved everyone/thing [/quote] Yup, my love is huge. (Let's hope Mark doesn't see this.)

Welcome, Chris! Don't love you yet, but am sure I will soon. best, bert

[quote name='ahpook' timestamp='1403604414' post='2484289'] My realistic outlook means I'll call it 'fixed', as all the evidence points to this being the problem. [/quote] Fixed! Congrats, and well done! (except maybe the Virgil Ovid Hawkins part)

[quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1403596909' post='2484164'] Really? I've clearly been doing it wrong all these years then! Either that, or I've just been lucky and have played at all the right kinds of weddings! I think we would have lost a fair few gigs over the years by demanding prepayment. [/quote] OK, I guess that you've rather been doing everything right. Still, I stick with the notion I may have worded slightly exagerated. BTW it's a notion I don't have as a wedding band player but as a paid church organ player and photographer. As an organ player, I'd too often hear the "we're soooo sorry, but everything got sooo much more expensive..."', and as a photographer I was taught to only deliver test prints before payment, as happy couples too often suddenly become poor after delivery of the official prints.

Man, you sooo won the G.O.T.Y.A. for 2014 as well as 2015! I'm sure you have all our sympathy. At the sime time, you do know how to turn deep sympathy into a shedload of tears rolling off faces. . On the serious side though, this is yet another lesson in the classic notion that [b]any activity around weddings always is to be prepaid[/b]. This is essential, for obvious reasons: it always cost more than they'd hoped for, they always have less money than they anticipated, they always want also this and also that as it's a once-in-a-lifetime thing, the "it's MY day!!!!!!!!!!!!" bridezilla reasoning.... the works. But yes, in all of this, you do have my sympathy. Chin up, eh?

Not important, I know, but to me it actually looked expensive from left to right. I knew of the Ray of course, but still. FIrst glimpse of the drum set and your Genz (long before I saw what it was), and I was like "That looks expensive", and this was long before you wrote about how it looked cheap. So: no! ...except for the furnace that is. A tiny furnace with a short, thin chimney like that will never generate enough convection or draught. Should be illegal. Hope you kept warm enough though.

Whatever you do, remove anything from your selling strategy that might make people wonder whether there's a scam happening. If you do go ahead and wish to sell right now, I'd say: give a physical object to a physical, reputable shop and ask them to sell for you and wire the money when it's sold. However, several aspects are not working in your favour right now, and it might even be better to keep the bass until calmer times - when Warwick basses possibly also are valued higher.

Welcome, Diogo! Nice gear. I got a few CVs too, and feel they're awesome (but as a noob, can't judge them like others could). Anyway, I hope you'll enjoy BC. Just remember I'm not friendly, and you should be OK. best, bert (=Alberto translated to Dutch)

[quote name='BottomE' timestamp='1403465134' post='2482975'] I think i will take it out to the next gig and see if it was something to do with the room. [/quote] You can't change the room that much, but as you say you can change settings. What you maybe also can change is the distance of the speakers to the closest significant objects and walls. It's not hard to calculate a probably good distance or compromise if the worst phasing is around the low E. BTW, IMS it's always a good idea to create a minimum lag for reflected sound of 50 ms, as a longer lag seems discernable by the human ear and thus not as ruining to the perception of the sound itself. If this is wrong, somebody should be able to rectify me.

[quote name='Bolo' timestamp='1403501935' post='2483191'] Sounds like my experience with sexual intercourse. [/quote] Bollocks! In case, he'd have written "early to mid 80s"! . (IME of course)

[quote name='chriswareham' timestamp='1403472928' post='2483088'] It's particularly popular in the "power electronics" sub-genre of industrial music, [...] Novation's rack mounted recreation of Roland's TB-303 even came with an overdrive and distortion effect built in. [/quote] Thanks, mate. I had no idea. It wasn't curiosity so much, as I've used my Big Muff on synths for like 40 years and liking totally out there sounds, but more about being careful with writing "just do it!!!!!!!!" on a forum where people are not to be expected to have the same mindset or reference frame - especially a bass forum where thousands of people prefer an SVT over an EBS. But yeah. Novation, eh? I feel the NAS...

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1403455924' post='2482845'] Yes we is, though that's not the reason. [...] embracing by contrast a spirit of '[i]Vive L'Indifference[/i]'. [color=#ffffff].[/color][/quote] Class! [Poirot] ...et, évidemment, I say these in a way... most sycophantique. [/Poirot]

Maybe I misunderstand the issue here, but my knee jerk reaction was that this sounds like a phasing issue that is worst on the low E, and is reduced for each step you move away from that frequency. I would expect such a phasing issue to come back one octave higher up though, but with less of a nullifying effect and more of a modulating effect on the sound.

[quote name='cytania' timestamp='1403381086' post='2482303'] maybe it's my eyes [/quote] If indeed something's wrong with your eyes, then there's no single reason anymore to be picky about the position of the pups, now is there?

[quote name='BILL POSTERS' timestamp='1403352088' post='2482027'] OK but not as good as I had hoped it would be. [/quote] Cousin Bill!!!!!!

[quote name='bluesparky' timestamp='1403304012' post='2481802'] Hmm. Tried it, didn't work. [/quote] Did you use the MEDIA and /MEDIA tags between square brackets before and after the link? That might help. Or do as Dad says. Better always do as Dad says.