dannybuoy

I understand the vintage pickups that these are supposed to emulate are a lot brighter / clankier than the more recent Thunderbird pickups which go the other way towards mudbucker territory. Probably best to stick to the previous model is you want that thicker darker sound!

I've not had a look for any more recent videos of it on bass, but note that all of Patrick Hunter's demos are recorded into a Line6 Ampeg model and Juan from pedals and effects into a mic'ed up SVT. So both have a heavily coloured slightly dirty tone as their clean baseline, which means you aren't just hearing the pedal there. They could be demoing a clean boost pedal that would sound like a great overdrive since it's just pushing the amp into more saturation. Always try and find clips of whatever you're interested in recorded direct to contrast and compare!

Says Proline on the trussrod cover, indicating it’s a proper ‘Wick.

The Pro is a bigger more expensive pedal, the new mini one is simply the Tender Octaver MkII.

I'd say my favourite setting on the TAFM just pips it, but then again the Photon has way more sounds in it and can get very close to the TAFM. Forget the octave setting on it though, it's useless on bass. It's an octave up fuzz that needs lots of high frequency content (i.e. a guitar) for it to react properly, plus it sounds out of phase with the main dirt and dry signal. The Agro is a different kettle of fish altogether, it's more used as a low gain dirty amp sim!

FEA Photon II fuzz can do both light OD and full on fuzz, with internal dip switches for a LPF on the clean channel and HPF going into the drive channel. Probably the most versatile pedal I've had that can do really good fuzz and light drive rather than just mediocre versions of one or the other!

Moore Tender is pretty much a direct clone. So much so that it was discontinued and they became very sought after and prices rocketed. They have a MkII now that apparently sounds very close but with a few extra features.

Working fine for me. You have to click the 'listen in browser' banner on each one.

Excellent! Can't say fairer than that can you.

I thought you were telling Mr FXPR he could rent one from FXPR! Although I now see you were probably aiming the suggestion at someone else, sorry! The pedal description page doesn't say for sure, but does it place the HPF/LPF before the send jack or after the return? As I would expect the former, but prefer the latter (or at least for it to be switchable). Reason being, I messed around with an SFX X&M many years ago and one of the things that made it less useful with dirt pedals is that they react very differently when fed a high-passed signal. I wanted to try a setup with clean compressed lows combined with distorted highs (a la Dug Pinnick but before I'd even heard of him) but filtering all the low end going into the drive signal just neutered it. Having the filter take place after the fx return would have solved that particular problem!

Get a refund and check out the shortscale Mustang PJ for sale in this forum!

If you haven’t played a note on it, send it back to the shop for a full refund, which you are perfectly entitled to.

I had La Bellas come with the Epi Classic Pro I bought, couldn’t whip em off quick enough! I like flats on my P-Bass, but it was just too dark for my liking with the ‘bird.

You don’t usually want a steep roll off on the LPF, since they are typically used as a vintage speaker sim, which has a smooth gradual roll off. The main purpose of the Broughton LPF is at the end of the chain to tame drive pedals before they go to the PA or hi-if bass rig.

Cheap small flightcase from Maplins is a perfect fit if you just st want a basic hard case.

Great thread! Find a problem, try to throw money / gadgets at it before realising the simple solution! "My new bass is too bassy!" "What new pedal shall I buy to fix this?" "Lets come up with an uber patch that uses an LPF and multiple parametric EQs!" "Hmm, I'll just turn down the bass on my amp."

If the band isn't gig ready, and all members are happy doing so, then of course.

My cab collection consists of precisely those cabs, having bought the Barefaced to replace the Ampegs as a one-cab solution. Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to compare both setups under the same conditions and now my band has decided to call it a day, I'm not sure when I'll be able to. Not terribly useful, I know! Definitely more low end out of the Barefaced, but the stacked Ampegs end up with speakers right by your ears which is great for being able to hear yourself.

This! Hot pickups do not make cabs rattle. Sending too much bass to cabs that can't handle it does. It's all about what's coming out of the speaker cable, if that's what you need to tame, you need to reduce bass and/or volume somewhere in the chain, and it makes most sense to do that with the amp controls, or a HPF. Setting up the bass to lower it's output will have the same effect as just reducing the gain on the amp. Why get your screwdrivers out when there's a knob for the job?

It's way more expensive, much bigger and the HPF isn't adjustable. The Broughton is all analog as well btw. Depends if you can sacrifice the cash, board space and lack of adjustable HPF so that you can acquire another EQ and DI output? (I thought not!) I would go with the $70 or $95 HPF unless you need the LPF as well to act as a cab sim for dirt pedals (and since you're using the amp drive with it's tone control, the LPF is probably redundant). Or try and pick up a used Thumpinator first, they pop up reasonably often!

If your preamp was overloaded you might hear distortion or see the clip light come on more, but that's it. Basses naturally have different output levels, but this is what the gain control on the amp is for. By all means get the bass set up so it's sounding it's best, but adjusting pickup heights so all your basses have the same volume night not be the best way to go. I did adjust my pickup heights, but it's something I do when setting up all my basses. If your cab is rattling then it is simply getting too much low end energy at a particular frequency or it might have some damping or build issues. Lowering the pickup might stop it rattling simply because you are lowering the volume - but you would get the same effect by simply turning down the gain, bass EQ or master volume on the amp. If you then turned up the master so you had the same output level, then expect the rattling to come back. If you find that a Thumpinator doesn't help, but want to chop off the deepest lows that are making your cab sweat without affecting the audible lows very much (like the bass EQ on the amp would), an adjustable HPF is just the ticket. Give the AcBs Pre (or whatever it was called) in the Zoom a bash, and if it turns out to be a good solution you know you can get that in a standalone pedal from Broughton!

Preamp overload does not make your cab rattle.

Unsure if you're serious but he sets it up like that on purpose!

That is a downside of the hard case - my previous PT boards I could get away with a bit of overhang here and there but not so with these! With bearing in mind if trying to decide which version to get.