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[quote name='Bloodaxe' timestamp='1360557482' post='1972269'] I'd nominate the 'Red' & 'Blue' albums. Both compilations released in the early 70s and span 1962-66 (Red) & 67-70 (Blue). From there - if they float your boat - it's simple enough to seek out individual albums. [/quote] I'd second this - good compilations, and was a staple part of my growing up thanks to my parents record collection.

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1360533701' post='1972040'] All British groups were influenced by US bass and guitar players. I would doubt if any of them had heard of James Jamerson at the time but were still influenced by him. I read some years ago about a British guitarist who said he was influenced by James Burton only he didn't know it was James Burton until some years later. [/quote] No - the point is that Paul *specifically* asked for these records and knew who james jamerson was - he knew him by name and followed his work.There is little evidence that other bands did this kind of research. Paul wasn't just a 'listen along' player just because everyone else did: part of his 8-10 hours a day in the studio was research. He would usually be the first to arrive to a recording session and the last to leave. His influenced and influential bass lines are then copied and strewn across other bands' work - sometimes almost unchanged. The roll call of famous musicians (not just bass players) is huge. He had decided to take his craft seriously, and as a result a lot of his work was cutting edge. Good examples are tracks like 'Rain' where his neckwork (quite high and chordal) was very new for the time. His more 'traditional' lines were also pretty radical - like 'Taxman' which seems really simple, but playing it shows some very technical shifts just because of the speed.

I've had the 'mu kid was messing around on my computer and bid on your auction by mistake (twice)!' - *pah*

considering that this is a bass players site, I find this discussion almost surreal. In the book 'bass masters - paul mccartney' by tony bacon and gareth morgan (a bit of a 'must read' the authors talk a lot about their influence. Particularly that they tended to listen to US bass players and music and imported those influences into the UK, often adding their own twist. Good examples would be Joe Mauldin (Buddy Holly) and Elvis's bass player Bill Black. Paul McCartney also listened a lot to James Jamerson - who Mccartney said was his hero. He would have the motown records sent over to listen to before they were released... The first time motown riffs were heard, were through the beatles music in the UK. To name just a few...

This has probably been posted before, but I came across this today and it raises some really interesting questions about 'the pulse' in music, and our ability to internalise it accurately. Even ignoring the stunning technique, this mystical commentary from Mr Wooten on our inner timer is fascinating... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRmiTta995o&feature=player_detailpage"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRmiTta995o[/url] Wow

[quote name='Jimryan' timestamp='1360086844' post='1964663'] I have to take the strap off as the Schaller locks won't fit. However, the inside of my case is as follows: Contents: Bass Strap Head Tuner PSU Kettle lead Jack leads Screwdrivers Allen keys Earplugs Dampening sponge Spare strings (under the head) Capo Bass scales/chords book Emergency beers And I believe that's everything. EDIT: just noticed, set of headphones, USB and 1/8" lead for the TC [/quote] You definitely get the 'coolest bass case' prize - but what's with the capo? Do you use it much?

[quote name='geoffbyrne' timestamp='1359715079' post='1959105'] I play all 5ers (I have 3) and for me, it's not really about the Low B (I often use the low D, but rarely go below) - it's more about the technique of playing [i]across[/i] the fretboard rather than up & down it. It enables me to figure out a way to play a song & then, if the key needs changed, it's easy to simply move that pattern up or down the fretboard. String spacing on a 5 or 6 is always going to be narrower than on a 4 - you have to deal with it or go back to 4s. I have a fairly small hand and I don't have fingers like sausages so that helps. Certainly, more amplification would help you. As you probably know, each octave you drop demands twice the power to maintain the same volume, so the low B needs a fair bit of power and suitable drivers to cope. G. [/quote] This is definitely true for me. On a 4 string I often found the difference in tone between open strings and fretted strings to be too noticeable - I wanted consistency. And also, for some tunes, the movements up and down the neck could make the line seem disjointed in sound (and sometimes, I'm ashamed to say, gappy!) With a 5 string you can often move the notes around the neck to both avoid open strings (or open strings in an odd place where their tone just doesn't fit) and you can often minimise movement and concentrate on a tight, compact, and smooth pattern without all the neck shifts. A good example is Floyd's Money - if you play this on a 4 string, there is a shift during the first section where the famous riff moves up to frets 7 to 10 on the A,D,G strings and then back down again to first position. On a 5 stringer, because the lowest note of the riff now fits on the 'B' string, you can play both patterns up at the 7-10 frets without moving your left hand at all. It's smoother and sounds more coherent. As many people have said, a 5 stringer isn't really about the lower pitches, more about the flexibility in where you play your existing notes and the options it gives you. All your box patterns become compact and efficient (well, more so), and you can stay stationary on the neck or *choose* to move around. I should say that I'm new to 5 strings so I'm learning about this stuff, but I'm loving it

Drums, drums, drums... But I'm finally learning, so one day I'll be able to switch between the two (hopefully)

Recorders are brutal instruments - they have almost no dynamics at all. If you play softly, the tone goes flat, and loudly and it goes sharp. The 'fipple' mouthpiece has no means to compensate for greater or lesser air flow (unlike flutes or reeded instruments). Still, good luck

Does it have a serial number? It will often be on the head joint somewhere embossed into the wood. If you have a serial number then Moeck will usually be able to help. Their customer support are usually pretty helpful with identification and stuff.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1359390934' post='1954042'] Playing the bass is like joining the Mafia . Once you're in, that's it . If you are serious enough to already own a pair of Roscoes and an SWR rig then you will most likely want to get back to it sooner than you think . Don't do anything hasty . [/quote] Woah! Too right - you'll end up with a Fender's head in your bed one night in revenge if you're not careful!

One word... Stageclix No compression, no delay, digital transmission, choice of frequencies... ABS so can drive over with a truck and still work. Charges whilst plugged into the received. No trouble, just works. £395 so over your budget, but beg, borrow or steal 'cause it's worth it. [This poster was not subsidised or supported in any way by the maker or reseller of Stageclix. All words are that of the poster. etc. etc. etc.]

And my Custom V Passion (in flame maple)... it's new so I'm really just bedding in with it, but enjoying every minute so far. The finish is absolutely perfect, and it's well balanced and the thin neck feels fantastic.... *sigh*

Great review - I have just acquired a 5 string passion custom (flame maple) and am loving more and more. The finish is absolutely spot on, and the sound is amazing - the sustain goes on and on and on and on and... well, you get the picture. The different thing is the neck though - very slim and playable. This would be the one I'd save in a fire too!

Pics... I can't help with the question, but I want to see pics anyway!

Congrats - on the bass and the choice of instrument.. and welcome to the forums. What kind of music are you playing? Upload some video of playing too - it's always fun to see other people doing their thing...

I wonder if what someone thinks of as 'forgiving' is defined by exactly what tone they are looking for? If a bass makes 'your' searched-for tone easier to make then maybe the player thinks it's more forgiving? My Warwick thumb B.O. definitely has more metallic buzz/scrape if you are in any way stiff or not relaxed, or even if you have more than 1 micron of fingernails, but when you're relaxed it is soft and forgiving. My graphite neck Vigier is too new for me to make comment on - superficially, I think it's easier to play, but it's just too early to know...

but... where *is* the drummer?

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1359151157' post='1950976'] The big problem is the bass player/drummer relationship has to be good, it's a two way street. [/quote] Yeah - what he said - if they work well it's magic, otherwise it's game over

[quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1359151189' post='1950978'] Cool! She looks jazz. [/quote] My dad was more excited when they stumbled on my kit, but his playing was ok, *hers* was absolutely spot-on, really in the groove! She doesn't play any instrument but her 4/4 groove with bass on 1 and snare on 3 was really solid. And she grinned the whole way through. We had to leave her there to play whilst we went for some lunch. At 70 this year, you've got to give it to her - she rocks!

[quote name='Mace' timestamp='1358982025' post='1948229'] Gain is at 12 o'clock these days, love her! [/quote] +1 it's not subtle, but full-on the gain is great on these... and you can toast crumpets on the valves

[quote name='skidder652003' timestamp='1359133602' post='1950517'] well done, kind of the whole point of playing an instrument IMO, go for it! [/quote] +1,000,000 especially with an instrument like bass

and to prove what fun it is - here is my mother after she found my drum kit in the back room

[quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1359150324' post='1950940'] That was me trying to be encouraging to those who don't quite feel it at the first go, more than anything else. [/quote] Well that's true - people should definitely try ... it's a scream