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Yes. That was my opinion watching the tribute act last weekend. He didnt struggle at all on stage, and used his elf, whereas i used my 610 and 500w markbass to power my vt rack on the same stage just after them. And he sounded great. Maybe there was some underpowered batches that went out, or it really doesnt like certain cabs?

well, ive just had an hour with it. I played it through my 2x12 and 6x10, and all i can say is there must have been some dodgy modules in the first batch released, because the volume this puts out is very very loud. I did find it weird that some reported it being very unpowered, and some saying it gave out outrageous power for its size. I really cant see this being underpowered at all. I connected it using a 'proper' jack to jack speaker cable and flipped through the gain setting until the green compressor light came on, then wound it slightly back for a pure signal. I understand that house volume isnt the same (by a long way) and ive had amps in the past that just disappeared live, so i'll have to wait and see how it goes in a big venue. The 3 band eq is pretty effective, quite impressed by that. The only thing m going to do is fit slightly taller rubber feet. i did that with my ashdown lg1000 and it pretty much immediately stopped running warm/hot, as air could circulate efficiently underneath. So, touch wood, this will be a great back up amp, and should be a complete get out of jail amp should anything break, as i could use my vt rack still to the desk and an unaffected out to this amp. Should the vt go down as well, the elfs DI will come in very handy, as im sure i can get a very good useable sound out of it. If it does work out, its saved me carrying 20kg+ of backup amp and squeezing in to impossible places on stage.

dont worry, i havent taken it that way at all. Your points are completely valid. hopefully i'll get chance to give it a go this week. its due this afternoon. reading the instructions, the gain knob looks interesting, as it isnt just a gain knob, its a 3 function knob. first part for gain, second for compression, third for drive/distortion. So it may give different output at lower on the gain dial......... anywho, we'll see.

Because it just needs to be loud enough for stage area. I wouldnt dream of trying to fill a venue with it.

Having seen it in use, with a big loud band, im hopeful it will be fine. What cabs did you all use with it? and what basses? and pedals? ... and were you using monitors and pa support?

Now £225 at GAK with case and free delivery.

Just bit the bullet and ordered one. Might give it a blast this weekend.

I should have asked really, but we had a tight turn around. Bass looked like some kind of Warwick, but im sure he uses Fender precisions/jazz too.

Morning all, Like many of us i suspect, Ive been very tempted by the trace elf as a backup or small rig. But, like many, i was slightly put off with reports of lack of tone and lack of power. However, we did a fairly big tribute night last weekend (around 250 people) and one of the other bassists had x2 12 or 15 cabs and used an elf to power them, then into the large PA. Gees, was i impressed! Great tone - kind of classic trace without the mid slam. Never struggled for volume. Speaking to him later he said it has so much power on tap its unreal. Never gets it near half way and tours all over the show. Oh, and hes competing against a loud drummer and x2 really (really) loud guitarists using x2 marshall valve heads and 4x12 cabs each. I suspect those struggling with volume or cutting through the mix may either need a bit of eq change or its down to the fact they only use a small single speaker, because the sound was absolutely spot on. I genuinely thought he was using an old massive trace rig. Is this a case of using more speakers makes a huge difference? Im now 95% gonna bite the bullet and get one - even as a back up (replacing my 20kg QSC). My cabs are either an Ashdown RM212T or markbass 610 sealed - so plenty of driver movement. Has anyone else heard them from the crowd so to speak?

More speakers, more umpf! Heavy head - even more umpf! Class D and single lightweight cabs just cant compete - no matter what anyone says. Theyre perfectly acceptable and youd never know the difference, but side by side, and playing through them its a different ball game!

Pretty much exactly the same on the front panel (tech 21 rbi and rpm- rack versions of sansamp pedals). Just more routing if needed on the rear. It's as simple as they come.

Why not try a rack mount version? There's so many more routing options. Let - xlr sansamp, xlr clean, Jack sansamp, Jack clean, fx loop, 50/50 fx, pads, dual inputs and easier to get to if you need to change anything when playing.

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Cheers, I'll have a look at that thanks.

I'm too confused to be honest. I can't work out why it isn't sinking into my brain. So - what load am I using, using a 6ohm cab bridged?

Evening all. Just a quick question - does anyone know the exact eq setting for total flat response on a markbass LMIII? The reason i ask is ive come pretty close i think. Im going to be running a dual set up - tech 21 vtrm to desk, and then into the LMIII, so i want it as flat as possible. The setting i have are around - LOW 1-2oclock. MID 11oclock HIGH 1-2oclock. With those settings it seems to be pretty transparent - getting the same sound to desk and cab.

Thanks to all who helped on this. Ive spoken to QSC themselves today, just querying their manual that clearly shows bridge operation being fine into 1 cab at 4ohm or greater. After speaking to them it should show that (as said above) its a 4ohm LOAD not CAB that it should show. As such, paranoia has set in, so im not going to go down this route anymore. Hence the QSC amp and x2 bridge cables will be going up for sale. On the plus side - i now have a better idea of how bridging works at last!

I genuinely think it's a split between what you play on the day and the instant chemistry you strike with the band - and you can't prepare for that. I don't believe the 'best' player always gets the job. Just prepare the best you can - and what will be will be.

From his point of view, he wants to buy the bass, so will have a bundle of cash on him, but you want to meet somewhere thats not your house, and drive him somewhere he doesnt know where hes going or who with - so he could be feeling the same? As well as that - I wouldnt take a deposit to be honest - youve no proof what that £20 is for. Id just say its a case of first come first served. He can wait as long as he likes but if it sells in the meantime, its their loss. I tend to feel the differently whether im buying or selling nowadays.