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Isnt the twin only marginally larger than the compact though? I'm sure I saw a photo a bit back and there wasnt as much difference size wise as youd think.

Last major festival of the summer for us last weekend. A few gremlins meant the main stage had to be shut down and de rigged the night before, so we were moved to a big top style tent which worked out brilliant. Everything was over running so this is with no sound check or monitor check. Running my g&l lb100 tribute into a quilter 800 flat into my laney n410 with pa support. Great gig. Finishing some amazing (but wet) festivals this year! This cropped up on youtube from someone in the crowd who had recorded it on their phone. Headphones needed to hear the bass properly.

This was taken at the weekend on a mobile phone by someone in the crowd. Despite how it looks it was a very tight stage - stairs and other pitfalls everywhere, hence the lack of movement! I'm playing a G&L lb100 tribute into a Quilter 800 set completely flat into a Laney N410, with full PA support. Due to acts over running we got no soundcheck, no monitor mix check, just straight in and start. Obviously listen with headphones.

Quilter 800 all the way. This thing amazes me every time. I've played this year (albeit with pa support) lots of big events and festivals. Outdoor gigs in castles and outdoor arenas and never had to drive it past half volume through a laney 4x10. It's a truly awesome piece of kit. Also a mention to the Stomp. I think it's the single best swiss army knife for bass. It's literally everything you need for bass and guitar in a tiny lightweight package. Cab wise. Well, theres quite a lot of options out there around the 12kg mark. I've had a barefaced super compact. Initially loved it, but then it struggled in big places. But for a medium pub would be fine. Although theres equally good stuff out there. I'd definitely go second hand on the cab, and new with the amp.

The last one I saw on ebay was on for about 2 months at £750 and couldn't sell. A lot of it will come down to location as it's likely pick up only. I was so tempted by the v8 but had a tax bill come just when I'd managed to get close to buying it.

Ok, to add a bit of perspective and common sense to this thread, maybe the specialist meant as follows..... I'll use random db figures just for example purposes only, not factual, but you'll see where I'm going. And this is ONLY a guess at what the OP and specialist may have meant. For clarity I'm a true believer in ear plugs. ------------------- SCENARIO 1 Music is played and is measured at 70db. This is considered fine. SCENARIO 2 Music is played and measured at 100db. This is considered harmful. SCENARIO 3 Music is played and measured at 100db. This is considered harmful. BUT you are using a set of ear plug that give a 30db perceived reduction, which makes you feel as if it's at the same levels as 70db. However, due to the pressure levels you are still doing yourself harm as the music is now so loud you suffer the effects of bone conduction that you are not protected from. Just my take on what he could have meant.

I'd keep your supertwin and get a head like the quilter 800. (and even another as a spare). I've had the ashdown evo 2 and 4 and the quilter matches it easily for heft and volume. Then you can put your amp in your bass case and youd only be externally carrying a cab, rather than a combo.

Surely the ear defenders and ear plugs are designed for different usages? Plugs for a reduction in sound, not total shut out, so we can still hear in order to play along. Defenders for as much shut out as possible as theres no need to hear the sound?

The guy obviously has no real life experience of being on stage.

You've got to go through it. Getting through it makes you so much stronger in lots of ways. Mentally stronger, bonding as a band, problem solving, and making sure it doesn't happen again. You'll laugh about it in the future. Dont worry.

Yep, put them in before soundcheck, then keep them in. You soon adjust within 10 minutes and forget you've got them in. Then everything sounds normal when you're playing. It's only when you take them out mid gig you realise just how deafening it can be.

Big rigs and big pa set ups for big events will have systems designed to go very very low. It's those type of gigs I'm thinking of.

For those of you who cut at 45hz etc, whilst being fine on stage, how does it affect the foh sound when using subs etc? I'm just curious whether below 45hz is needed for pa purposes?

Yes. I have those. They're very very good. Stupidly I did about 3 months without them. Ended up with damage. They're now my number one thing to remember.

You could just about scrape a laney sls12 combo in budget.

The best way to look at it is it's even more arsey not to bring any gear and expect to borrow someone else's.

Wasnt Chas a top session guy?

Check which model with the RM cab weights. I think they've done a few different versions. I bought a 2x12 (the older black one) thinking it would be light, and it was 35kg! And only had pull out side handles which blocked you when trying to get through doors!

Our company supplies and fits dancefloors for events. Years ago we were booked by an agency to provide one at the Palace Hotel in Manchester. We didnt know anything about the event only where it was. So, on entering the room it was all plush and decked out really nice. There was ice sculptures, fire and flame items etc - the works. So id brought the floor in on the trolleys ready to get into position to start fitting, when i saw there was a big stage and PA, and the band were just walking off with their backs to me after sound check, and the sound engineer was playing around - so i went for a chat. I asked him how it was going (small chat etc) then asked what the band were playing tonight - he replied "oh, just the usual stuff, that they always play". I presumed the usual party stuff etc and went back to the van for more floor panels. Intrigued by the PA he was using i went for another chat and got back on to the topic of the band. I asked when they were on (as sometimes i like to watch if im just hanging around) and what they were starting with. He replied "probably 10 oclock, theyre starting with the same stuff as usual..." Anyway ive got the dancefloor half laid on the floor now, with the rest resting against the wall about 50ft away, when the band came in all dressed up in posh suits, but looking a bit lost. So, for a joke and to break the ice (as im in a band too!) i went over to them when they were stood near the dancefloor panels and said "hey, stop hanging around looking lost and doing nothing and help me lug this heavy floor over there!" then walked off to get on with the job. .......... all of i sudden i heard "where do ya wan' it goin, sir" I turned round to see 4 of the band all carrying and bringing my panels across the room and giving them to me! I apologized and said i was just joking! They laughed and said thats fine. So, i asked them what they were playing tonight as it looked like quite an expensive party. "oh, just the usual thang" came the reply in an American accent, and then they left. On the way out, once id finished setting up - about an hour before the event was due to start, I said goodbye to the sound engineer who was sat there looking bored, and apologized that i wouldnt be able to stay and watch. He said, "no problem, it;ll just be the usual stuff anyway if i wanted to catch them again in the future" So i said "sorry, i dont know who they are, who are they?" (thinking its a local party band). Then came the reply.... "Theyre the 4 Tops." My face dropped. Talk about laugh! Id accidentally been bossing the 4 Tops about and had them lug our dancefloor into position by hand!

The Helix can do that depending on your settings Any excess drive, gain, eq, volume, can cause that white noise. I had the same issue, thought it was my bass, but it wasnt. Changed the patch and it was fine.

Well I did my first gig with the tube yesterday. Absolutely amazing. Outdoor event on the back of a trailer. Amp was probably on about 4 out of 10 volume and pa support as well. Gees, the power was unbelievable, I could actually see the cover of the cab moving in a thumping kind of way, at low levels too! I ran it completely flat, just on the tube channel, with a tiny bit of compression. It really adds something to the band mix. Trying to think of an adjective all through the gig, I think the classic 'pillowy' makes sense. Just a lovely warm glow to the sound. Playing wise, it sort of encourages you to be loud and confident and try more nuances like slides, different attack and techniques. The sound seemed to be getting better and better as the gig went on - probably the first real run out its had. Very happy, and now a confirmed ex class d user (apart from upstairs gigs where I'll take my quilter!).

Theres a very strict procedure to follow when updating apparently. You have to follow it word for word. And make sure you back up first, or you could lose all your presets.

good luck on the support. despite having x3 mark bass heads over the years i never got one reply to any emails or facebook messages and posts about things like rack ears and specs - and i wanted to spend money with them.

It sounds like a real mess and you're just competing to be heard, which will add more mess. I'd genuinely do the following: The loudest acoustic thing which cant be turned up (monitors aside) is the drums. 1. Have the drummer on his own play until hes happy. 2. Now just play drums and bass until you're all happy that it's a good sound as a rhythm section. Once agreed it's good then you know your amp is fine and levels are fine. 3.then add guitars in. If the balance goes to pot again, and you cant be heard, then it's obviously them. They should now adjust their eq and volume to fit in. 4. Then add vocals. If they cant see the problem, then I'd give up. 40w is absolutely nothing to do with volume. Our guitarist AC30 can blow holes in walls, never mind your ear drums. Get the sound right as a band.

It's a 'peanuts' (Charlie brown, snoopy) shirt I think. Anything similar will work.