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10 hours ago, stewblack said:

As recommended by he who shall be obeyed, I speak of none other than @TKenrick@TKenrick this is absolutely brilliant

 

Plus One: Ikeep a copy of this on my desk at work and you can do so much practise without an instrument (even though I regularly sight-read) - it is a great source. 

Ouch! I don't like the look of those ribs?

Ooh!! Very nice!! 😀

That's a bit of an open question?

However, perhaps the one @Ambient is referring to is Mel Bay's JS Bach for Bass by Josquin de Pres, which does have tab. It's one I own - it is reasonable and I have also used it for the double bass, but likewise, there's nothing to stop you trying any classical piece written for double bass (except that it doesn't have tab😕), I enjoy mixing it about! I also try double bass orchestral music for the bass guitar and vice versa.

You may be restricted for classical music if you require tab?

17 hours ago, neilp said:

Oh, and if you ever want to audition for the Berlin Phil, you will HAVE to play German bow!

I didn't want to switch over from French bow...so I turned down offers from the Berlin Phil 🤣!

Different situations will require different attention, but in general, yes, you have to count! In some instances it can be both tedious and distracting (because you have to focus so hard, if that makes sense?).

When I play with the orchestra we often have pieces with many bars rest, sometimes 24 bars rest - there is no option other than to count. Yes, it is tedious, but there is no avoiding it. When counting for rhythm, if you haven't learnt the piece or you are sight-reading the counting and sub-dividing can become automatic as opposed to loud in your head. When learning music, you also have to count, but eventually (as above) you can learn to divide the bars without counting and you only have to count on the tricky bits, but it is still necessary.

No, you don't have to count 1e&a2e&a...but you have to learn the patterns and learn how to sub-divide the bar and sub-divide the quarter-note.

Counting is necessary when learning, but shouldn't be necessary when you have learnt the piece; start at a slow speed and by the time you get up to speed you shouldn't have to count - and yes, it is very much required in a professional situation!

Sorry if I waffled on a bit!

It is such a pity that I don't need these, as I'm sure they're excellent speakers at a great price. I do hope someone within this community can make use of them.

Have a GLWTS type of bump!

Lovely wood facing, but fret lines (and dots) on the fretless neck and over-priced, even as a package, by about £1500, make it less desirable to those that could afford it?

Plus One for the Bass Buggie. Yes, it is very expensive, but I recall a fellow DB Player watching me carry my DB back to the car park after a gig, using the back pack straps (on a new, strong case) and telling me that carrying it that way in London gave her a bad back. I woke up the following morning with a bad back and spent more in Osteopath fees! I'm now glad I've got a Bass Buggie, even if I tried to skimp with a Screwfix folding trolley first!

As for DB stools - the height and set-up is too personal to risk using something supplied at a venue, so you have to use your own.

The first bass I learnt on, as a 15-year old (boy!) was a short scale, inexpensive Gibson EB copy, which I think was a 30" scale and very easy to play and learn.

I don't think it matters too much about the make/model, but just choose a good second-hand bass with either a 30" or 32" scale. You won't have far to look with a budget of £400.

I have one of these https://www.thomann.de/gb/km_stehhilfe.htm, but without the backrest, which is quite comfortable - heavy, but portable and adjustable, the main one I use outside of home.

I also have one of these https://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/Quiklok-DX749-Rapid-Set-up-Fully-Adjustable-Stool/EK6, which is for home use only as it's both heavy and not quite as portable - a bit of a permanent fixture in the home!

You quite often get quality bows in the second hand double bass section of ‘Musical Chairs’.

I have been fortunate to purchase two good Pernambuco bows on eBay, for a good price, but it is pot luck. Although I always wonder how a £4K bow will sound, not that I have the budget or the skill to justify buying one!

Good timing - great photo!

I sometimes use 3 fingers, but i started off life as a classical guitarist so it’s natural to me, I don’t have to think about it.

 I don’t really have any tips, but there are no rules, whatever comes/feels natural to you, I guess? Sometimes using fingers one and three on the same sting allows for an instant string change using finger two.

2 hours ago, Gareth Hughes said:

I played through an Acoustic Image head for years - on acoustic and electric bass - and loved it. My one reservation is similar to your EA experience, it could sound a little sterile with electric bass - but that’s what overdrive pedals are for 😜

+1

I use the Acoustic Image Clarus Plus, which performs well, but it’s not quite as good for EB as DB.

On 11/08/2019 at 07:57, chrisd783 said:

. To that end, I'm currently taking the sage advice above and am in talks with @headofire.

 

A wise decision - you won’t do any better than that, indeed, you could wait years for a deal like that to come up.

I made the transition 7 years ago and of the many things I’ve learnt, one is - you have to travel for many things DB-related: purchase; lessons; workshops; concerts; gigs etc. Don’t let that put you off - I would drive to the north of Scotland for the right deal.

Although time and money may be restricted, i would also consider the occasional lesson in person rather than just on-line learning. For on-line learning, I would start with ‘Discover Double Bass’. Try not to let any bad habits creep in that may slow later development and play as often as you can!

You won't go wrong with a Crazy 8 and an EA Doubler! Good Luck!

Another option to consider is the AER Bass One. It is very compact and the sound is incredible for the size, it will easily accommodate a medium size gig (150+). It feels heavy because of the compact size, I think it is about 13.5kgs. Great amps. I don't have the direct experience to comment on PJB's - they've always been on my consideration list, but I have enough options and range to cover all occasions and no need to change.

I have an AER compact 60 (Mk1), which I've had for about 20 years for classical guitar duties.

I have occasionally plugged in a EB for practise at acoustic guitar volumes, but I wouldn't want to take it any louder - I wouldn't bother to put my DB through it. Ironically, I have two Crazy 8s for EB and DB practise in the house or small gigs, which are not only much more suitable, but worlds apart in terms of bass depth, clarity and useable volume.

For the S/H price of an AER, your money would be better spent on something more suitable for bass!

Free Double Bass Workshop on Sunday 1st Sep 19, 

Victoria Hall, Ash, 1 Sept 2019 PDF.pdf

If anyone wants any further details, please let me know?

Hey, I’m impressed, a new concept for me - will be great for reading as well! I like the randomness too. Great effort!

Mm...might have to get that album 🤔

2 minutes ago, NancyJohnson said:

And already has your name on the headstock, so no need to change your name by deed poll.  Win win.

Yes, I've always fancied one of these with my name on the headstock - originally the guitars, when I was a guitarist (no longer), but what is worrying, I only prefer 5-string basses and natural wood finishes. Ouch! I already own too many basses 😟1

...Oh Dear!!! - that is nice 😋

Spire DB Workshop 21 July 2019 PDF[8976].pdf

If you require any details over and above the PDF, pm me your email with questions and I'll reply in greater detail.

I will be attending - it is a great workshop and a lot is achieved in half a day; all orchestral, from grades 4 - 8+ (and beyond), but other abilities can also take part. Reading music and having some knowledge of technique and musicality helps. I always get pushed to my limits in a friendly way. I will also be travelling about 55 miles to get there - and it is so worth it!