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An interesting thread for me as I'm looking at recording with an acoustic guitar. I have a couple of great MIJ Takamine guitars that I like very much but I wasn't convinced that they suited my voice. I have a deep voice and wanted something with more sparkle so am selling them and have settled on a Simon and Patrick Woodland model and an old Yamaha LL6, based purely on their acoustic sound, playability and how they complement my own voice. My thinking is in line with this bit below as both are electro acoustics. [quote name='SubsonicSimpleton' timestamp='1506978596' post='3382537'] Why is this relevant? You might want to prioritise ergonomics and acoustic performance over onboard electronics given how much sonic improvement is available from hardware/plugs, and you might not need to spend top dollar on buying an axe with a cutaway, which might let you hang on to one of your existing instruments (if you feel they have another worthwhile flavour to offer, or writing mojo etc). [/quote]

Interesting scale chat. A good bass is a good bass. I've had a bunch of very handy 5 string 34" scale basses including Stingrays, a Sterlingray, Bass Collections, A G&L L1505 and tribute L2500 and an ESP Ltd Surveyor 405. The ESP's are definitely worth a look if you are on a tight budget .

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1506342306' post='3378025'] Thanks for that - that's very helpful. The non-rounded flat edge of the older models, you've pointed out, seems is a little Rickenbacker reminiscent and I can understand it being less ergonomic than something a bit more rounded. So I suppose that modification in the latest model is a plus (and also the re-positioning of the battery so that it is no longer cutting across the neck through on the back!). But hopefully neither will detract from the fact that you have got a LOT of gorgeous bass for the money! [/quote] I don't usually like 35" scale basses. Note: My build is wide body/short arms and I have dodgy shoulders. I really struggle with any bass that has me reaching with the left hand for the low notes. The BTB isn't such a long reach on the strap as it happily balances with the head nice and high, with the frets well in reach. It was one of the things I insisted on trying before I bought it. When sitting once again the bass doesn't feel like a stretch with my left hand. I suspect that is no accident.

I'd look for 2nd hand Ben, you will get something nice if you keep watching the adds on here. A G&L tribute is almost in reach. My own Bass Collections are around that price

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1505290941' post='3370714'] Ok I guess this Q is [i]vaguely[/i] related to our current discussion on PUPs and Ibby SR's... [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I do love the look of and definitely have GAS for a neck through bass, with the additional sustain that it brings. There's a neck through [/font][/color][url="http://www.ibanez.com/products/eb_detail17.php?year=2017&area_id=3&cat_id=2&series_id=53&data_id=109&color=CL01"]Ibby BTB with Aguilar PUPs [/url][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]- any views on i) Aggie PUPs? And (ii) more generally thoughts on the SR Premium vs BTB Premium ranges for those of you that have had them both? I note that the BTB 1805 is about £200 more new than the SR 1805 (£1,300 vs £1,100) so they're not a million miles apart on price.[/font][/color] [/quote] I'm very pleased with the BTB1805, I played it several times before buying. It was a big purchase for me as I only ever bought 1 other new bass and was thinking about a custom build. The big differences are obvious, the "looks" the slightly wider string spacing, which I need, Also it is suprisingly light and nimble to play. You can hear why I bought it in this video. It is a pretty accurate reflection of the sound [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2osFbwuOyEE"]https://www.youtube....h?v=2osFbwuOyEE[/url]

An interesting thread [quote name='clivem' timestamp='1504771856' post='3367131'] The ATK doesn't really appeal to me. But that ATK-810-NTF Premium, (so it comes with the "soft/hard" case), and looks super cool with the wood pickguard, that several dealers have now discounted to £625....... Looking forward to hearing about that. [/quote] I am now using an ATK805 as my main gigging bass so here's my thoughts. I find that it bridges the gap between an MM and a precision very well, with more sound options than either. As a result has replaced my Stingray SR5, which is something that I never thought would happen. It has a 3 way switch, that is particularly well balanced and allows me to switch between a deep growl (and growl it does) to a more aggressive middy option without needing to touch the volume control. It has a great sound options that cut through like a knife when needed. An extremely comfortable bass with a meaty neck, lightweight and full of usable sound. I also have a BTB 1805, which I love and I find these newer generation Ibby basses amazing and user friendly. If recording I would use this as the evenness across, up and down the fret board is perfection. Add in in a great tone and it's bass heaven to play. I have owned a few ibanez basses in the past and loved an old prestige SR3005 that I had but found it at times complicated to dial in live. Nordstrands? I'm not sure why but the Nordstrands don't hit the spot for me. I tried them back to back with the Aguilar powered 1805 and ATK and they leave me cold...same with Delano.

Give a man a fish and he will not be hungry for a day but give a man a fishing rod?

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1504799894' post='3367441'] This: [url="http://www.ibanez.com/products/eb_detail17.php?year=2017&area_id=3&cat_id=2&series_id=51&data_id=67&color=CL01"]http://www.ibanez.co...d=67&color=CL01[/url] I personally[i] love[/i] the tone of the big Nordstrand PUPs and I suspect you won't find an easier to play neck. But it's 34" and not 35". [/quote] I agree, alternatively a high end Bass Collection or what about a newer BTB if you want 35" scale. They are also pretty lightwieght (or at least mine is). The Prestige and some of the high end premium Ibanez have different pup and pre-amp combo's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2osFbwuOyEE