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[quote name='rogerstodge' timestamp='1475338085' post='3145194'] So I wouldn't regret it if I bought it, it's too far away to go and try it out [/quote] Nope you wouldn't it's lovely. The reason for selling is that I play 5 strings so don't play it other than at home, I could do with some dosh, I am so impressed I would like a L2500.

[quote name='rogerstodge' timestamp='1475323026' post='3145027'] There's a L2000 lefty on eBay that I'm watching, looks lovely. [/quote] Yes that does look really nice. Lovely grain Note: I still have a couple of mine on sale on here at the moment. I am not sure how much longer though as I have been enjoying playing them this afternoon. I have been comparing them all. Of course it ends up that they are all different but good The L2000 is a cracker though, such an easy bass the play and it sounds great. I'm now thinking I should keep my L1505 as if I go any lower it will be down to the price of a Tribute.

I love the black...similar to the G&L basses that I'm selling

[quote name='tom1946' timestamp='1475001485' post='3142233'] I used to sell them in my shop, well made and they came from China. Don't know a lot more than that except Burns were heavy. [/quote] Yes I had 3 lead guitars and they varied. A Double Six, a great guitar in every-way but like you say heavy and awkward to lug around in it's hard case so I sold it, A Marquee Special, which I just didn't like. That wasn't heavy enough and a Sonic Elite, which I really like and still have. That is nice and light, a bit like a tele and bright sounding. This bass is very comfortable but that is probably more to do with the good balance rather than the weight. I don't have scales for an exact weight unfortunately

Yes I splashed out on a Fretless Stingray 5 and it was an inspired purchase. I had tried and failed to play fretless bass before. I tried this bass at a time when I couldn't afford it. When it later dropped £500 in a sale and I went in with 3 guitars and a handful of cash and negotiated the purchase. I can now play it pretty well and although I have never played in at a gig I absolutely love the thing.

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1474892293' post='3141256'] good review, enjoyed reading that. [/quote] Thanks I enjoyed writing it [quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1474890006' post='3141229'] Great review! I've always fancied one of these - or to be more accurate, a Bison with Marquee electronics. [/quote] Unusual controls are a pain for occasional use

Hi, I have an update. It turns out that the previous owner had the decals especially made for the guitar so they were a false lead. I have removed them because I didn't want it damaging the finish in the long run. The bass itself is good so I have done a review as requested here: http://basschat.co.uk/topic/292454-burns-marquee-review/page__fromsearch__1 Thanks for all your interest and input

[color=#000000]As requested a review of my new toy! A 34" scale Burns Marquee.[/color] [color=#000000]I am the 2nd owner. This bass was came in a Burns Custom case, which contained a ticket that said made by Burns London in November 2014 bought new in 2016 from PJS Music in Barnsley. I have no idea why it was made or if more exist but it is a factory product. [/color] [i][color=#000000]Update: I have an email form the Burns CEO/Barry Gibson telling me that they have been making 34" scale Marquee basses since mid-2014. [/color][/i] [color=#000000]The current Burns bass line up consists of the Marquee short scale bass (32"), The even shorter scale Nu-sonic, the Elite and more expensive Shadows Bass and the Bison Bass. [/color][color=#000000]I had ruled all of their basses out for various reasons[/color][color=#000000] [/color][color=#000000]but I have tried and like both the Bison and Marquee and often found myself thinking "if only Burns made a 34" Marquee I would buy it". Well now they do and this one came up on ebay and it's now mine [/color] [color=#000000][b]The review:[/b] This bass is based on a Burns of the 1960's and has remained true to the origonal design.[/color] [color=#000000]This 34" scale bass has some differences from the 32" Marquee. To achieve the scale the neck is longer and the plastics altered to allow the bridge to be moved. To ensure that the bass remains well balanced one of the strap attachment points has been moved from the back of the bass on to the end of the horn. A cosmetic difference is that the back of the neck and head are unpainted unlike the usual finish of the Marquee or Bison. [/color] [color=#000000][attachment=228586:Burns FR.jpg] [attachment=228587:Burns bod.jpg][/color] [color=#000000][b]Features:[/b] It is British designed but probably a far eastern (Cort factory?) product. It is well made and attractive IMHO, with a white body with tortoiseshell 3 piece scratch-plate. It has a zero fret, a rosewood fret-board and maple neck and the famous "Burns batwing" head, that is tilted back to avoid the need for string trees. Marquees have a basswood body and a substantial Marquee bridge, 3 angled Tri-sonic pick-ups. 5 way selector Switch. Master volume knob and two "tone" knobs. The top tone knob does what you would expect, While the bottom tone knob appears to do little other than act as a push-pull Switch to bring the bridge pick-up into play and access additional neck/bridge and neck/middle combinations. This gives a total of 7 different pick-up combinations. The Burns sealed machine heads appear quite small by modern standards but of good quality. [/color] [color=#000000][b]Sound:[/b] The previous owner had fitted a cheap set of round-wounds on it which I subsequently swapped for Roto 77 flats. I wondered if this choice would work well but I needn't have worried. Using the P-UP selections alone gives a wide variation of usable sounds. The Tri-sonics are silent and buzz free. They give the Marquee a very pure and unique voice, with the neck pickup being more precision like and the others being progressively more jazzy as you move towards the bridge. The Tri-sonics give a nice clarity to the individual notes or when playing chords with no muddiness present. I quickly found my favorite sounds, which are based around the neck pup. [/color] [color=#000000][b]Action, Fit & Finish:[/b] No complaints as the finish and fittings seem excellent. The neck is a pretty skinny Jazz neck and on this particular model has some nice tiger stripping The guitar shone from the inside of it's fitted case the first time I laid eyes on it. The paint work and chrome look wonderful and the shiny Tri-sonic pickups add some bling. Very impressive.[/color] [color=#000000][b]Reliability & Durability:[/b] With my past experiences of modern Burns kit, the good build quality and attention to detail I see no reason to worry here. Time will tell.[/color] [color=#000000][i]Note: The thin jazzy neck stuggled to retain a good action with the flats on it so it was changed back to rounds, which suit it better.[/i][/color] [color=#000000][b]Overall Impression:[/b] It is a really nice piece of kit and very easy to get on with. It is from Burn's cheaper "Club" range but seems well made. It's old style good looks and 3 piece guard make it stand out from the crowd and I do like the big bat-wing backward tilting head too. The combination of the big body, big head seem to be exaggerated by the skinny neck. I would describe it as a medium weight bass but it is perfectly balanced. The sound is impressive in terms of voice and clarity. It will cover most types of music but as a passive jazz bass it is probably most at home with jazz,folk, rock and blues. Having said that I have heard a Marquee used very effectively in a heavy punk band and there is some funk under the bonnet too. [/color] [color=#000000]You can see it next to Paul's P bass for a scale comparison [/color] [attachment=228588:Burns comp.jpg] [attachment=228589:Burns BK.jpg] [attachment=228590:Burns Head.jpg]

Does anyone out there play one? Opinions? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar_FXH2VVj8

and these clips are is soooo cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpY8LBYpqlM [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFCwzmFdEqk#t=25"]https://www.youtube....FCwzmFdEqk#t=25[/url]

[quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1474703181' post='3139906'] I was concerned about the lack of a tone control but my worries were unfounded, I reckon Leo got it right. After a little experimenting and blending of the two volumes, I could get all the tonal variations that I wanted. [/quote] Yes spot on! Such an easy bass to dial in and sounds so good once you do it. I got mine in a trade and after about an hour knew it was staying. Virtually every time some-one plays it or I take it out I get complements about the tone I also love the controls and switch system on the L2000. They are simple and effective to use when compared to some other basses I have had. They just sing!

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I tried a great sounding Tribute L2500 a few weeks back in a shop. The salesman was saying how he loved it but strangely it hadn't sold. He also said that he had lost count of the number of times that buyers had come in and tried it and raved about how good it was, only to walk out with a Fender. I have settled into Stingrays and G&L's. I have an SB-2, L1505 and Tribute L2000. L really like them all but I'm currently trying to cut down so would like the sell the L1505 and L2000 to raise a bit of cash and get Tribute L2500. The SB2 and SR5's it has cured my GAS''just looking for a lower priced back-up

Lots of positive experiences. The Japanese built ones are superb. SR1300-A very powerful bass, nice and light with a very thin and fast neck (1990's) SR3005-a beautiful bit of kit with a wide range of sounds to match. The only reason I still don't have it is because I prefer the simplicity of a Stingray and wasn't sold on the colour. It remains one of the nicest basses that I have played. I also tried many in shops over the years 605, 700, 1205's. I have yet to be disappointed

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1474389718' post='3137618'] All fenders need buying on how good they are rather than which model and where it was made. The old us jazz V with five tuners in a row was awful, one of the worst bases I've ever played do I never thought I'd own a jazz five, the later ones are a totally different animal think God and I love mine even though I've pulled the passive controls out for a bartolini circuit [/quote] I remember playing one of those in line tuner 5's. It was so bad that it made me angry. I just couldn't get my head around how anyone could charge that much for such a bad bass. The B string was awful. I have no problems with the newer ones as they are great. £1500+ seems a lot for a 5 string precision though. Also I didn't like the Dimersion much...the sound seemed over engineered for my tastes

[quote name='3below' timestamp='1474316089' post='3137128'] 'Buy yourself a 'vintage' G&L'., some real value for money about. Failing that just buy used German Warwicks, quality all day long at very sensible prices. I have owned a plethora of US guitars and basses, 5 at present, I have a liking for them but now feel that far eastern and Chinese basses offer 85 - 95% of the quality at bargain basement prices, especially s/h. Quite what Fender can do to compete remains to be seen. I have seen the same with my wife's business, luxury specialist products turned into high quality, low cost 'white' consumer goods over time. Country of origin no longer matters. I no longer buy German or Swedish cars either, better value for money elsewhere. [/quote] I would go further, I have a mixture of Chinese, Korean, Japanese and USA instruments and the quality of all is excellent. G&L's and stingrays (Ray35's) are a good example.

[quote name='synthaside' timestamp='1473675142' post='3132081'] I played one of those in a 34 ten or so years ago , it was defiantly full scale it played well but a little thin for my taste but back then i was wooden humbucker's with the tone on zero played with a pick or nothing. Enjoy it ... I hope to see a full review . [/quote] Aha so they have been made before! I thought there would be some around somewhere...it would have been strange if they weren't on such as old guitar line. A review is possible but I don't have much experience of "Jazzers". I'm more of a P man. I'll maybe enlist some independent help or a 2nd opinion. [quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1473676030' post='3132095'] The big decals make me wonder if it was a trade show sample or similar. [/quote] That was my first thought...made for a display of some kind. I thought someone may have seen it and if there was a small run of them I would think that someone on here would know.

[quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1473627336' post='3131848'] It's rare to see a 3-pickup bass. Godin brought one out a few years ago but I have never got my mitts on one. [/quote] Yes, I like the look of those. The Burns Bisons have three as well and they sound great IMHO. This one shares the same pickups so I'm hoping for a similar sound. Of course it doesn't have a Wild Dog setting Thanks for all the comments...no answers though. I've pinged an email to Burns to see if they can tell me something about it. I thought that someone here may have seen it at a show or something.

Here's a standard Marque getting the treatment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yorHgYo1bSU

Any thoughts on this? As a happy Burns lead guitar owner I have always fancied a Burns bass but "What no 5 string?". There are the 4 strings which include the short scale 32" Marquee, the even shorter scale Nu-Sonic, the "quirky" Bison or the more expensive Shadows bass. They are all good in their various ways but I discounted them all for various reasons. A shame but wait......I just took a punt on this! It is a 34" scale Burns Marquee. I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on it. My first thought was that it was cobbled together from a couple of basses but the seller claims to have bought it new as is and when comparing it to the 32 version there are differences. The seller tells me he bought it a couple of years ago and was the first owner. That means it is probably from the Far East. The differences the standard Marquee bass are as follows: 1. It has logos/writing on it (Burns and 1964). 2. It is 34 rather than 32 inch scale 3. The neck profile at the back/near the body is a bit unrefined, which suggests it's a special or one off. 4. The bridge has moved to help lengthen the scale 5. The "big plastic" has a shorter horn to make way for the bridge 6, The back of the neck and head aren't painted like the production model 7. The neck wood is nicely grained 8. The Strap button has been moved from the back of the guitar to the end of the horn...probably to help balance the longer neck 9. The "bottom horn plastic" seems to have a finer shape. 10. It appears to have its own specially made Burns case. They are not exactly groundbreaking changes but it all suggests more thought than something that is just thrown together from a bunch of parts. I don't know if its me yet but I'm excited about getting it. [attachment=227642:s-l1600-1.jpg] [attachment=227643:s-l1600-2.jpg] [attachment=227644:s-l1600-3.jpg] [attachment=227645:s-l1600-4.jpg] [attachment=227646:s-l1600-5.jpg] [attachment=227648:s-l1600-9.jpg] [attachment=227647:s-l1600-6.jpg] [attachment=227641:s-l1600.jpg]

[quote name='bakerster135' timestamp='1473268898' post='3128564'] Yes! Bought one off here last month, from Eddie (Pinball), and I love it! It replaced my Crowella Animato copy, and does a better job (without the need for a blender!). Good low end retention, adds some if anything...Gets really distorted without losing the gnarly top end bite, which my TK-421 can't do. [/quote] I liked it when I had had, you could get get some really unique sounds out of it. Unfortunately my band weren't as keen. I think our guitarist felt threatened