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[quote name='Hutton' timestamp='1417771341' post='2623811'] I agree that the issue is with the EBMM forum where absolutely no criticism of MM guitars, basses, accessories etc is tolerated. The justification is that the company is paying for it and so it is perfectly acceptable not to accept criticism. I don't have a problem with that so just regard the forum as an advertisement for EBMM and never go there. [/quote] I'm a member of it, they were brilliant about answering a question that I asked and I have never logged in again since. That's pretty much what I expected from it.

Singing this [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CevqpjoepYA"]https://www.youtube....h?v=CevqpjoepYA[/url] and I bought this one on 45, written by Andy Fraser? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLmkZOiWqGU

Yes I remember him on top of the pops, Class!

[quote name='skej21' timestamp='1417607022' post='2622125'] It's also interesting that these MM lovers claim it's not a cult but they all have a 'Musicman', 'stingray' or other related words in their basschat member names :-P The illu[b]MM[/b]inati!! [/quote] That is just silly! Pi[b]MM[/b]ball

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1417598900' post='2622029'] Seriously though, I play a Stingray and it sounds great but that's because I'm playing it and I am amazing. [/quote] haahaa love that! I'm not sure where you got that impression bubinga5, I was just reading this BC thread and thinking to myself what a well balanced bunch we were on BC: http://basschat.co.uk/topic/225456-fender-precision-or-a-musicman-stingray/page__st__120 Not a hint of blasphemy and there's nothing wrong with loving or sticking up for your chosen "bass" .........whatever it is.

[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1417513510' post='2621056'] That's interesting, especially to hear about it sucking tone. I've got a B3 and there's been times I think it takes volume, or the tone isn't all it could be. I know Victor Wooten uses a B3 in his live set up, mainly as a looper, but I do wonder how easy it would be, in a gig situation, to be scrolling through effects on stage to find the right one for the next number. You didn't say if the B1 has a USB connection for connecting to a PC for recording. The B3 does this. So, over all I think they're a great piece of kit but probably more suited to home/small gig use. [/quote] The PC connection is really for updating patches I think. I'm not saying its impossible to gig with it but I would probably have to shape the rest of my sound system around the pedal to get the sound I was after. Most people only use a few patches so I think it would work OK in that respect. The drum volume can be tweaked so the patch volume may well be able to be varied too, as can the numerous tone settings of individual patches. The pedal is now wrapped for Christmas so I can't check anything else until then. Note:Like I say I'm not normally a multi-effects user.

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[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1417043691' post='2616645'] Yes, that works too. Do let us know what you recon to it. [/quote] Here you go, B1on post here: http://basschat.co.uk/topic/250575-zoom-b1on-multi-effects-user-experience/

The reason for posting this is that I recently asked advice from BC on options for a practise kit to take travelling with me. I decided on the B1on and was asked to post feedback on how I got on with it. I was originally thinking of a small practice amp but decided on this pedal instead. I should state up front that I'm not into multi-effects pedals. I have already been there with both guitar and bass and have always reverted back to single effects. Here's a link to the B1on: [url="http://www.zoom.co.jp/products/b1on"]http://www.zoom.co.jp/products/b1on[/url] Why get the B1on then? Well I thought this would be a cheap and portable option and at £39 from PMT it is a very cheap pedal. For my purpose I found the pedal surpassed my expectations, mainly due to the wide array of options available and the clear instructions and display. Construction seems OK, it's plastic but seems robust. You get 100 bass sounds and a bunch of drum patches that are infinitely variable, a basic looper, tuner and an audio input to that you can play along to whatever you fancy. Output is for an amp or phones. The controls are easy to understand. There are a couple of foot pedals and a bunch of orange buttons for various functions and a nice bright display to help you though the intuitive menu. Sometimes lots of options can be confusing but I found this easy to use. You use the foot pedals to move to the next patch and the up and down buttons to jump 10. Once you find the ones you like you can personalise it and group them together. On my recent trip I was trying out a fretless bass and one of the deciding factors on buying this was an option to leave the tuner functioning while playing along, which meant I could visually check that I was as "in tune", rather than rely solely on my ears. As a creative tool there are lots of options. Each patch can use up to 5 different effects and these appear on the menu as stomp boxes (very handy for me) and each one can be tweaked as required. Drums are more limited but are more than adequate for a guitar pedal and can also be tweaked in multiple ways. The Looper is basic and works fine but doesn't have an undo function. All of the above were explored in depth while travelling using headphones and amazingly I found my way around the pedal easily. Since returning home, I have tried it though my amp set up. It is OK and has some cool patches but as I suspected my £40 pedal doesn't sounds as good as my carefully matched kit and it does suck some tone. Because of that, its unlikely that I will use it live. To sum up: It is great for practising and using creatively it isn't something I would gig with. It is superb value for money and therefore recommended Note: don't forget to pack your headphones on your travels!

I'm up front that one has priority in terms of practices etc but once a gig is in the diary from either band I stick to it.

[quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1417106022' post='2617148'] At a recent Bassbash, one of the attendees had this: [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_thr10.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...amaha_thr10.htm[/url] Surpisingly good sound and a lot smaller than any combo [/quote] Looks cool too!

[quote] Did any of the Ray nays on this thread ever try flatwound on their Rays? Now there's a classy and very versatile combination..... [/quote] That's my chosen combination and it seems to be an winner with the rest of the band. I play an EB SR5 with ceramic pup, 3 band EQ and I love it. Since switching to it I tend to use less pedals as the bass tone just hits the spot. I find a wealth of tones through switching playing positions and between finger and puck styles. I also find them very comfortable to play so have no reason to look elsewhere. I should add that me and my bass are still on honeymoon and that I also like P basses

Rikaxxe in Bristol carries a selection of them. I picked up one of their P basses in there for a look and it seemed pretty well made and felt like it was a good machine. I can't imagine that they would stock something that they thought was rubbish as its not that sort of shop.

I'm now moving away from a combo and thinking that one of these and my headphones will do the job. They seem a cheap and practical solution. http://www.zoom.co.jp/products/b1on

Thanks a whole bunch of good options. All would do the job because: 1. It would just be in this country and on trips so a small combo would be no problem 2. The more compact amp and trainer units with head phones would be fine. I already have a small zoom recorder to recording is not a problem. Thanks for all the advice.

Hi, I'm off to visit relatives and am looking for a cheap small practice combo to take with me. In the past I had an Orange 35B, which was great but was a little bulkier than I would like and I don't remember it having a headphone socket. I notice Ashdown do them, any feedback on the "After 8" or Tourbus? Are they worth getting or is something like the an Amplug going to be just as good?

Hi, I have been there and very nice guitars but they are not for me I'm afraid. I loved playing them at how but once in a band situation I never seemed to be able to settle on the tome that I wanted so would end up fiddling with the nobs and switches. I'm much happier with the switching options, control and sound of my Stingray. A few tweaks on the EQ get me to where I want to be. Only one way to find out and that is buy one and try it.

Well I traded in 3 basses an acoustic and a pedal on Saturday for one bass that I fancied but never thought I would buy. I'm pretty sure that I'll use use the 3 basses I now have. I'm feeling really good about it!

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1416679450' post='2612612'] Yep, Stingrays are unplayable junk, weak G strings, dirty raw unfinished maple necks, one trick pony and even then only a good trick if you are Bernard Edwards in the first place, [/quote] I agree, I'll swap you a Squire Jazz for one of your MM's. I don't actually have a Jazz at the moment but I'll nip out and buy one

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Hi, We'd love an opportunity to "showcase" out and The Angry Badgers a bit further down the M5 from Bristol/WSM. Can out there anyone suggest a venue or contacts to make it happen? If so please message me.

The gig went well, although I changed my carefully crafted master-plan when I got there. I was sharing my amp and the other bass player and he had set the gain higher than I normally use.I liked it so i left it. I used the bass "in parallel" the whole time. As I was using lots of gain I didn't need to add any dirt from my pedals and just varied my playing style for more impact e.g. switching between finger and pick for different songs or playing in-front of the pickup or directly over it. That worked really well. In retrospect I would have done differently-maybe next time I will switch the pups to "series" as the bass takes the lead for much of the time and could have done with a bit extra. We had a good sound from the whole band and got lots of complements, including from the promoter and landlady, which is important as this was a showcase event for us. There are some pictures here on Facebook but non that show the bass or the venue off well unfortunately: [url="https://www.facebook.com/TheAngryBadgers"]https://www.facebook...TheAngryBadgers[/url] Thanks for the advice.