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[i]Sorry if this is slightly off topic, but its an anecdote about an effects pedal so i put it here (mods feel free to move if inappropriate please).[/i] So yesterday a mate of the household came round from being in Africa for 7 months. At one point he looked over at my board (which i have next to my pc, plugged into the amp under my motors) and asked if ive seen this video of someone on youtube playing with a loop pedal. because i know he plays guitar instead of introducing him to beardyman i got down my boss RC-50. After me having to explain why there is a piece of tape saying FISTY over the 50 (when i told the band i brought it thats what they heard, and we spent practice making jokes instead of practising) i plugged it in and handed him a guitar. Then after a bit of me explaining how it works he started playing. I love seeing what people do when first handed a loop pedal. Everyone seams to go about it differently, and i always come out after watching them with some new inspiration. They always come up with interesting ways to simulate drums, ways to structure a song or new ways to set my board to get different tones to layer ontop of each other. That as well as the musical things they do that are new to me (like playing a clean A and an OD'd Cm to make together an A7th). Ive gotten my values worth from it just from watching other people playing on it, let alone playing with it myself.

Danelectro FAB 1 distortion. Its tone control rolls off the lows, and your left with a distorted guitar sound.

From scratch id start buying up pedals from my board. As i am now, id probably go: OTO machines biscuit £400 bypass loop £40~ and ill probably then need a gigrig power adapter fot the biscuit. £60 dont know about the last 200, probably another type of bitcruser...

i bid on the chase bliss warped vinyl and the FK CNCR but didnt end up getting them. The peal with the clear top and the skeleton looked cool, but im not really after gain pedals at the moment.

I power mine with a gigrig supanova, ive never had a problem with it.

If the Kappa² has midi sync, then im all over that.

theres a couple of pedals that ive got my eye on, lets see what my bank says nearer the end.

I would start by disconnecting everything, and then try plugging your bass/amp&power to each pedal individually, and see if the noise happens then. My next step (if no noise) would be to try adding them in the signal chain, one by one in order until you get the noise or end up with a finished chain without it. One other possibility might be from patch cables, so once you have two pedals in a chain try then swapping out the patch cable between them to make sure they are good.

The USB power adapter they have looks interesting. Not often you find adapters for standard pedal power (9v C-ve) to a lower voltage.

I think the cave passive pedals look cool [url="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://i.imgur.com/YnPssFU.jpg&imgrefurl=http://basschat.co.uk/topic/230949-cave-passive-pedals/&h=600&w=387&tbnid=0qtA0h9ZlaMZgM:&zoom=1&docid=zSpE1XTSw3c_WM&ei=jetoVbCgBojzUKjFgaAB&tbm=isch&ved=0CEAQMygZMBk"]http://www.google.co...ed=0CEAQMygZMBk[/url] edit: cant get the image to inbed.

What i meant is how do the ironman drives compare to the larger drive pedals they do (american sound/ultimate drive). I have a vintage drive, and its a lovely pedal. I have it in a blend/feedback loop after a bitcrusher, and it softens it brilliantly, whilst still letting some of the digital-ness through. I would probably swap it for one of4 these smaller pedals if they are similar.

Anyone know anything about the drive pedals? do they relate to the American Sound/Ultimate Drive pedals they do? or are they based off of different ones than those?

[quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1432720376' post='2784188'] Don't understand. What "other" control? Both of them have identical controls from what I can see. Mix, Attack, Level, Comp. [/quote] oh dear, seams like i missread one of the controls of one of them…

[quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1432714221' post='2784094'] Given the rather unique design I'd be amazed if the internals weren't identical. [/quote] i doubt theyd keep the blend circuit if they werent using it. That or they both have the other control as an internal pot.

strange that there is a difference between the joyo and HB ones. first time ive seen a difference.

That makes sence i guess, i sometimes forget that others arent constant knob twiddlers like me.

Wow, that is tiny... why the flap though?

I understand that you want to have 'your sound', and want to sound good. Thats all fin, but if you dont sound good in context to the band thats all for naught. Mids are what make the bass stand out in a band. Without them you get lost in the mix. Sure a bass on its own thats terribly mid'ey doesnt sound great, but that changes in a band context. My advice would be to listen more to what you sound like with the band, and not just you alone.

What have you got before it?

Its nice that it has a blend and attack, but it looks like that LED is just to show if its bypassed. Its best to get a compressor with metering else its hard to dial in. Also separate threshold/ratio controls are useful. Id suggest maybe looking at getting a empress compressor, which has more controls and better metering, but still has a blend. http://www.ovnilab.com/ is a good resource for compressors.

I have hook on pedal, loop on board. also, every second hand pedal ive brought with velcro on has been the same.

I use [url="http://www.thegigrig.com/acatalog/SupaNova.html"]this[/url] to power my MB compressore. Never had a problem with it.

You get a louder signal from an FX loop than normal, which messes with most dirt pedals. ive tried a few and none of them have sounded even close to good.

They help alot if you have a difference in volume between your ed/dg strings. I also like having a compressor at the start of my effects chain to control my dirt pedals.

I use midi to temosync some things together, my midi chain goes: Drum machine (Korg ESX1) > Phrase Looper (Boss RC50) > Delay (Eventide TimeFactor). Using this i can also change the patch on the ESX, and change the patches (a saved set of parameters) on the RC50 and TF. I am also currently looking at incorporating a Sonuus B2M into my board to change my bass signal into mini note data, and then using a program and a special box to get midi to control a gameboy like a synth. I havent looked into a switching system for my pedals, as most are always on or in a blend/feedback loop already. Also, im a tweaker, i like playing about with pedals mid set. Its soon getting to the point where im goign to have to get some kind of 'hub', so i can minimise latency between pedals, and sort out what part of what midi signal is going where. Like maybe being able to switch between/have different channels go into the gameboy. Edit: Your doing fine. This is the right forum for this discussion, seams to be where most of the other midi discussions are.