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[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1357239460' post='1919716'] They only made "Super Strat" style guitars for a comparatively short period - the vast majority of their models are far more Gibson like in terms of construction methods. [/quote] Very true - was at a guitar show recently where someone had got together a few Gibbo style Hamers that were great guitars at a very reasonable price! The super strats that they were produced were among some of the best guitars I have ever picked up, could never work out why they went went out of fashion so drastically! [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1357244216' post='1919840'] Yes they did, and Jol Dantzig absolutely refused to make any more guitars of the Chaparal/California/Diablo/Centura style even though plenty of people waved lots of money at him to do so. He took Hamer back to their core values & designs and they then started to produce the best guitars they ever made until they were taken over. [/quote] Possibly the reason for the start of their demise??

[quote name='VTypeV4' timestamp='1357245902' post='1919898'] The top players use the equipment they have proportionally and appropriatly whether it's a beat up Fender Princeton or a Boogie rectifier. 50w and 2x12s are borderline in the Rigger. And for the record I've done enough 'big' gigs and tours over the years where 4x12 and 100w are fine.. Learn to deal with them? Interseting. [/quote] [color=#222222][color=#222222]Not meaning to offend anyone but I’m intrigued why you would dislike working with valve half stacks (used proportionally & appropriately of course) if you have that sort of background??[/color][/color]

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1357230067' post='1919459'] In short , yes it is possible to better or worse than other artists in the same discipline . Art involves a certain degree of craft - you need knowledge and aquired skills , and it is possible for some people to be better at those skills than others in one way or another . Take playing the bass guitar for example . It's not just a question of expressing yourself , moreso it's about learning the intellectual and manual skills neccesary to conceive of and execute the basslines . If you don't know how to play , it's like someone who can't read ,write or speak attempting to write a novel . All you would be making is a racket , not expressing yourself in any tangible way . The whole pesonal expression thing when it comes to art is a bit of a red herring . Human beings cannot help but express themselves in almost everything they create . It is an inherent part of the human condition for them to do so . There is no need to self- conciously promulgate personal expression as an ends in itself . The idea of the artist as a autonomous creative force with their work born out of an internal creative genius is a fairly recent and highly romantic idea . Ironically enough , in the ages before this idea became prevailent the artist was considered more of a craftsman than an inspired creative force , and artists learned the skills of their chosen creative medium in the same way any apprentice learns a trade . The higher expression of aesthetic beauty was largely an afterthought . [/quote] Well said that man!

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1357235445' post='1919582'] Fixed [/quote] Brings back memories of supporting a band who had exactly the same backline as that....!!

[quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1357231464' post='1919503'] Precisely. I've heard that Hamer made great guitars---but I don't think I've [i]ever [/i]seen one in the flesh. Not at a gig, not in a shop, not at a mates' house. [/quote] I have and they were indeed great guitars (never actually played one of their basses thru) I think that they started to go out of fashion along with the other 'super strat' makers when more traditional looking instruments went out of fashion, propelling Fender back to domination of the market! Fender bought them (presumably at a reasonable price) to eliminate a possible competitor and protect their brand!

[quote name='VTypeV4' timestamp='1357224473' post='1919343'] As an FOH engineer, Marshall heads and four twelves are the number one enemy.. [/quote] The trouble is that the top guitar players who do the big tours nearly all use all big valve heads and 412s! Probably best to learn how to deal with them if you want to do the bigger gigs......

I often use a LM3 thru a Bergantino HS410 Not that keen on MB cabs myself.....

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1357158282' post='1918446'] Depends on stage size, IMO. Sealed 810 aren't typically boomy so a good choice from that POV. I am sure 810's look the part...as would a row of them, but maybe they only run 1. If you are going to have your own foldback and wedges etc..you might as well have your own stack/rig as you sort out your sound with familiar kit. The monitor man will soon tell you if your running into his mix. I posted another thread about a 3k backline... and can't see anyone actually running that no matter what is on stage. For the venues we do, I always ask what mix I can have prior to the gig and if I can have my own mix, I am still sceptical even if they say 4 , 8 mixes. so I take a small 2x210 rig capable of filling the stage, that way monitors become less of an issue for me and as long as I get everyone else in the mix, I am happy. Depends on the lenght of the soundcheck and how long you get. If I could find a nice 610, I'd use that...but I don't do enough gigs to warrant that I wouldn't approach gigs with just enough theoretical power... I will want more in hand. Funnily enough, I find bass players on the same gig seem to struggle with their combos and small rigs as they have to wind them up so much... it is such a compromise sound. Of course, the FOH handles it outfront but they have such a painful stage sound as far as I can hear... If the monitors can take the load that is ok...but the thing that is giving them the problem with their combo is going to be the thing that will upset the monitors. Basically, some people need too much bass in their sound or they can't play... All a recipe for disaster in a variable room, IMO. I don't think I would want to do 2-300 people with just vox, tbh.... gtr and keys goes thru the P.A for pubs as a minimum. If I did more of these large stage gigs, I would have the stage size and rig type ratio more off pat... Off the top of my head, an 810 would be required to 'fill' a 100m sq stage with full monitoring. If the monitoring was top notch and you had a stage mon mix, maybe you could rethink the fridge idea. ..but by this time the fridge idea has run away with you In an ideal world, you would 'rehearse' your kit or you rely on the hire co to bring you their backline... which brings us back round to the 810 as that is what they use and know well. [/quote] Good post! I was speaking to a mate of mine over the holidays who runs quite a big PA hire company (works with the odd household name, does big installations, etc) and he reckons that the easiest band for a sound engineer to work with is one that has a good onstage sound! I think that the good guys can deal with a bit of bleed (within reason) if the band is happy and the engineer has a good sound as a reference to work with. FWIW – I used to mix different speaker sizes but switched to just using 10s when I realised that the advantages of having all the speakers in phase outweighed the those of mixing the sounds of speakers of different sizes…..

[quote name='Spoombung' timestamp='1356692280' post='1912401'] There are more rotten bands around than useless bass players. Most rock bands are unbelievably, stunningly dull and boring...but are completely oblivious to it. [/quote] But see above re. Cliff Williams, Carmine Rojas, etc. Often the bass player's job is to play very simple parts to make the rest of the band sound good!

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1356638024' post='1911960'] You're effectively saying that being addicted to alcohol and being addicted to cocaine are essentially the same thing. [/quote] Are you saying that it isn't??

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1356028743' post='1906043'] You see, Lynyrd Skynyrd haven't been a band for a while now, so when talking about them, you should always use past tense. It doesn't work for Lynyrad Skynyrd, because nothing does, although a lot of things [i]worked [/i]for them. Merry [s]christmas[/s] end of the world [/quote] [color=#222222]Sorry to contradict you pal but lynyrd skynyrd do still indeed exist as a band – still putting out records and touring and everything! [/color] [color=#222222][/color] [color=#222222][url="http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/35421699/Last-Of-A-Dyin-Breed/Product.html?searchstring=lynyrd+skynyrd&searchsource=0&searchtype=musicall&urlrefer=search&strefer=musicall&searchfilters=s%7blynyrd+skynyrd%7d%2bc%7b34%7d%2b"][color="#0000ff"]http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/35421699/Last-Of-A-Dyin-Breed/Product.html?searchstring=lynyrd+skynyrd&searchsource=0&searchtype=musicall&urlrefer=search&strefer=musicall&searchfilters=s%7blynyrd+skynyrd%7d%2bc%7b34%7d%2b[/color][/url][/color] [color=#222222]Whether this is actually a good thing is another discussion!![/color]

Some people are being somewhat harsh on the OP here. I read his post as saying that he is playing in a band that is doing quite well, with a couple of guitarists that he rates and who are good friends as well. Along comes a rather charmless individual who isn't as good, but is trying to blag a gig at his mates' expense and won't take no for an answer! I would have just told the guy to f... off ages ago, to be honest......

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1355535391' post='1899803'] Fret clank is your friend Also when you attack the strings, instead of stroking your fingers on the string try to 'play through the string'. Basically hitting your finger across the string as if it's a pick. I get compliments on my attack style quite often using this approach. Bryan Beller is another player who uses this approach to great effect [/quote] Was just gonna say check out the Bryan Beller DVD / youtube / bassplayer.com clips about 'playing through the string'. Something that I've always done when playing rock so pretty cool to find out that BB does it all the time!

Good call - I can appreciate the thinking behind the the New Classified section, but the trouble is that the old 'for sale' sections just work so well.....!

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1355239725' post='1895799'] It's fascinating how a second wave of interest has come along just when the issue was starting to drop off the radar. It suggests that news spreads across the forum in a series of irregular bursts, rather than a smooth flow. Something to think about when it comes to forum comms, etc. And it's good to see that people are expressing similar concerns and views to those which emerged earlier in this thread. Practically a unanimity of opinion, one might say. At this juncture, it might be useful if the admins were to post a quick recapitulation of the revised proposals which were arrived at through robust debate earlier on in the thread. And - re: forum stats - fwiw, here's something[i] very [/i]basic I did a couple of years ago: The general interpretation might be that we are four times more likely to be talking bollocks than we are to be posting in 'Bass Guitar For Sale' threads. [color=#FFFFFF].[/color] [/quote] I would be interested to see Skank's table showing the number of hits rather than actual posts. I'm not sure how advertising revenue for the site is determined but I assume that it is connected with the amount of traffic the site gets rather than the number of members' fascinating posts on what side of the stage you should stand! I would guess that restricting access to the for sale sections would significantly reduce this traffic (but stand to be corrected)!

First impressions are that the new classifieds are not as user friendly as the old I may want to buy and sell a couple of basses next year but there is no way I would pay a subscription! A reasonable charge for a successful sale or a small insertion fee may be acceptable (bearing in mind that the market is very slow at the moment) but certainly not a subcription. Sorry but I think that you would find that most of the traffic you get from people who don't post alot but are interested in buying or selling would take the same view.....

I liked early oasis a lot - some great tunes but not exactly top players....

This topic comes round quite a bit.... Generally stage right so that I can hear / feel the bass drum - a lot of claasic rock bands set up like this (I know that Billy Sheehan usually insists on it) However, these days I'm not as bothered as I used to be!

[quote name='Pinball' timestamp='1355170749' post='1895024'] Yep me and a mate are going up for the weekend, it seemed good use of my remaining hols-am looking forward to it, see you there maybe. I haven't been to any of these before. [/quote] Nice one! I'm in a band called Rhythm Zoo - I won't be drinking much on Saturday as we're the last band of the night as I understand but hopefully I will be around for a beer on Friday night..........

[color=#222222]If anyone is at the Rock n Blues on the Saturday night, I'm playing in what I believe is the last slot of the night (and apparently the only place where you can get a drink after midnight)![/color]

Depends on how you look at it - Beck purely as a guitar player but Page for producing the best music!

About £150 each, going by how much I got when I sold two of them a couple of years ago! Great cabs and a classic of their time, even thru they can't match some modern 4x10s in terms of efficiency......

[quote name='SteveK' timestamp='1353174896' post='1872457'] [arse and gob off mode] IMO As entertainment, a chap with a guitar playing to whole bunch of stuff on tape is as valid as any other entertainment. As music, a chap with a guitar playing to a whole bunch of stuff on tape has questionable validity. Of course, if said chap with guitar is outstanding, then it has more validity. Basically, the more an act is reliant on tape, the less validity it has as music. While this may sound a little snobby - I do think it's our duty as musicians to be at least a little snobbish. [/arse and gob off mode] [/quote] I pretty much agree with this! Let us be honest, a lot of well known & respected touring bands (certainly on the metal scene) will use backing tapes live with additional BVs & keys.....

How abour stocking Xotic basses and and a range of american Laklands? Mesa Boogie & Aguilar amps?