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Some people are being somewhat harsh on the OP here. I read his post as saying that he is playing in a band that is doing quite well, with a couple of guitarists that he rates and who are good friends as well. Along comes a rather charmless individual who isn't as good, but is trying to blag a gig at his mates' expense and won't take no for an answer! I would have just told the guy to f... off ages ago, to be honest......

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1355535391' post='1899803'] Fret clank is your friend Also when you attack the strings, instead of stroking your fingers on the string try to 'play through the string'. Basically hitting your finger across the string as if it's a pick. I get compliments on my attack style quite often using this approach. Bryan Beller is another player who uses this approach to great effect [/quote] Was just gonna say check out the Bryan Beller DVD / youtube / bassplayer.com clips about 'playing through the string'. Something that I've always done when playing rock so pretty cool to find out that BB does it all the time!

Good call - I can appreciate the thinking behind the the New Classified section, but the trouble is that the old 'for sale' sections just work so well.....!

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1355239725' post='1895799'] It's fascinating how a second wave of interest has come along just when the issue was starting to drop off the radar. It suggests that news spreads across the forum in a series of irregular bursts, rather than a smooth flow. Something to think about when it comes to forum comms, etc. And it's good to see that people are expressing similar concerns and views to those which emerged earlier in this thread. Practically a unanimity of opinion, one might say. At this juncture, it might be useful if the admins were to post a quick recapitulation of the revised proposals which were arrived at through robust debate earlier on in the thread. And - re: forum stats - fwiw, here's something[i] very [/i]basic I did a couple of years ago: The general interpretation might be that we are four times more likely to be talking bollocks than we are to be posting in 'Bass Guitar For Sale' threads. [color=#FFFFFF].[/color] [/quote] I would be interested to see Skank's table showing the number of hits rather than actual posts. I'm not sure how advertising revenue for the site is determined but I assume that it is connected with the amount of traffic the site gets rather than the number of members' fascinating posts on what side of the stage you should stand! I would guess that restricting access to the for sale sections would significantly reduce this traffic (but stand to be corrected)!

First impressions are that the new classifieds are not as user friendly as the old I may want to buy and sell a couple of basses next year but there is no way I would pay a subscription! A reasonable charge for a successful sale or a small insertion fee may be acceptable (bearing in mind that the market is very slow at the moment) but certainly not a subcription. Sorry but I think that you would find that most of the traffic you get from people who don't post alot but are interested in buying or selling would take the same view.....

I liked early oasis a lot - some great tunes but not exactly top players....

This topic comes round quite a bit.... Generally stage right so that I can hear / feel the bass drum - a lot of claasic rock bands set up like this (I know that Billy Sheehan usually insists on it) However, these days I'm not as bothered as I used to be!

[quote name='Pinball' timestamp='1355170749' post='1895024'] Yep me and a mate are going up for the weekend, it seemed good use of my remaining hols-am looking forward to it, see you there maybe. I haven't been to any of these before. [/quote] Nice one! I'm in a band called Rhythm Zoo - I won't be drinking much on Saturday as we're the last band of the night as I understand but hopefully I will be around for a beer on Friday night..........

[color=#222222]If anyone is at the Rock n Blues on the Saturday night, I'm playing in what I believe is the last slot of the night (and apparently the only place where you can get a drink after midnight)![/color]

Depends on how you look at it - Beck purely as a guitar player but Page for producing the best music!

About £150 each, going by how much I got when I sold two of them a couple of years ago! Great cabs and a classic of their time, even thru they can't match some modern 4x10s in terms of efficiency......

[quote name='SteveK' timestamp='1353174896' post='1872457'] [arse and gob off mode] IMO As entertainment, a chap with a guitar playing to whole bunch of stuff on tape is as valid as any other entertainment. As music, a chap with a guitar playing to a whole bunch of stuff on tape has questionable validity. Of course, if said chap with guitar is outstanding, then it has more validity. Basically, the more an act is reliant on tape, the less validity it has as music. While this may sound a little snobby - I do think it's our duty as musicians to be at least a little snobbish. [/arse and gob off mode] [/quote] I pretty much agree with this! Let us be honest, a lot of well known & respected touring bands (certainly on the metal scene) will use backing tapes live with additional BVs & keys.....

How abour stocking Xotic basses and and a range of american Laklands? Mesa Boogie & Aguilar amps?

[quote name='seashell' timestamp='1352905459' post='1869190'] Hmm .. I hadn't thought of this. I think I'm so used to rehearsing drama and comedy with people of both sexes it didn't really occur to me that the dynamic in the band is somewhat different. I don't think [b]he [/b]thinks he has a problem with it, but maybe there's something subconscious going on? And/or maybe I'm being a bit too tentative ... you know acting too much like a beginner?. He's always telling me to turn the bass [b]up [/b]for example (opposite problem from what a lot of you get, lol). I might be acting like I'm scared to be heard (again subconsciouly). There's also a bit of tension between him and Vox, but I think that's down to the fact that 1) Guitar can be a bit slow on the uptake and 2) Vox can be a cantankerous bugger at times. Drums just watches it all unfold and smiles to himself!! He's probably got the right idea [size=2]Edited to remove erroneous smiley[/size] [/quote] Oh, so it's possible that he doesn't have a problem with you being a girlie, but he's afraid that singer might have a go at him so he gets on your case so he doesn't look like the weakest link?? Quite a common occurance in some bands! If I may offer a tip, never be defensive in a band situation - don't give someone who may be a bit defensive themselves the opportunity to not give you the respect you deserve.....

[quote name='seashell' timestamp='1352887364' post='1868743'] it's brilliant how a lesson lifts you and gives you more impetus to go on, isn't it? The other day our guitarist experessed suprise that I was still going fo lessons after more than 18 months. He said 'I would have thought you'd need to go out and do stuff on your own now'. To which I replied 'Well I am, I'm in this band aren't I? But that doesn't mean that there isn't more to learn'. He just didn't get it though. The fact is the more I more I learn, the more I realise I don't know! I intend to keep going for lessons for as long as I can still lift a bass. Or until my teacher takes out a restraining order - whichever is the soonest [/quote] My mate is a drummer who has been playing for well over 20 years, has been in bands with most of the better musicians around here and is generally well respected yet he still has a lesson every week (when he isn’t gigging). I’ve played in several bands with him, always with very experienced (i.e. knocking on a bit) players, and no one ever sees fit to comment on him still taking lessons! I could be wrong, but it occurs to me (from this and other posts) that your guitarist maybe has a bit of a problem playing in a band with a girl!

It's generally a song that you can feel easy enough if the guy behind the kit knows it, but as you say, a drummer's nightmare!

I will always count if I need to! I suppose that technically you are right that the guitar solo is 17 bars long, but that is because he holds the last note for an extra bar at the end. I think that for someone trying to learn to play the part, it is probably easier to think of it as 16 bars made up of eight 2 bar phrases with a sustained note at the end. Personally I've always thought of it as a set filler, generally when I'm playing deps, and haven't analysed it that much. I've gigged it many times (as I most likely will again on Saturday night depping for a band) and the above approach has always worked fine for me! PS. Evil Undead's transcription above is pretty close to what I play.....

[quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1352836855' post='1868225'] This is what I play. I couldn't tab the rhythm but its easy enough to figure that bit out. It's definitely not right but sounds fine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------5--6--7---5--6--7------------------------------------------ -7-----7--5-------------------------4--5--6--7-----7--5--7--8--9--9----- ----0---------------------------------------------0--------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -10--12--0--4--5--7------7--5---------0--0--4--5--0--4--5--7---7--5- -------------------------0---------3--2--------------------------------0--- --------------5--6--7--------------------------------------------------------- ---5--6--7------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------4--5--6--7------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [/quote] Close enough for jazz (as the old saying goes)!!

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1352831638' post='1868107'] It's odd. From memory as above it's just chromatics but it's not exactly 16 bars long. [/quote] Count it out in your head - a straightforward 16 bars (divided into 2 sections of 8 bars)!

[quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1352813782' post='1867693'] Can anyone help me work out what is going on under the guitar solo? I have worked out the first few bars of the solo, but it seems to go off on a tangent with those chromatic runs. [/quote] You are pretty much on the right lines anyway re the tangential chromatic runs! Try breaking the passage down into bits. The solo is 16 bars long, so think of it as eight phrases of 2 bars each. The first four notes of each 2 bar phrase are the same, generally followed by three chromatic runs of three notes each. Note that a couple of the phrases in the first eight bars are repeated second time around! It's not the most precise bass part around, so it won't matter too much if you get the runs in the wrong order or put you're own in of you feel like it, as long as you keep that chromatic feel going......

[color=#222222]Similar thing happened at a gig in the 80s when we were supporting a band with Frankie Miller’s old guitar player (Ray someone or other). Apparently it’s a bit of a common problem with guitars that have necks made from mahogany. The thing was that it was a 59 Les Paul worth an absolute fortune![/color] [color=#222222][/color] [color=#222222]We put him onto a guy in Bradford who sorted it out and did a really good job! Still, it must have knocked thousands of the value of the guitar, which was pretty much the guy’s pension……[/color]

[quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1351029441' post='1846530'] I play a bass, people ask me to be in their bands, I must be a bass player [/quote] As far as I am concerned I am a ‘musician’ generally, but first and foremost I’m a bass player! I play a little bit of classical guitar, for my own amusement and for family & friends, etc. However, I wouldn’t dream of playing classical guitar at a gig in front of an audience of strangers, whereas I regularly will with a bass!

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1351007309' post='1846129'] Maybe '[i]that [/i]guy' knows you personally; nothing to do with your bass playing..? [/quote] Perhaps there is a more personal reason? Years ago a guy used to come and see a band I was in and always used talk to the guitarist afterwards, telling him that the band was great but should get rid of the bass player as he was crap! We had to explain that perhaps he was a little bit biased in his assessment of my abilities, possibly because I had slept with his girlfriend!