peteb

I agree! The trouble is that many people react in one of two ways to a woman playing bass because it is still seen as a novelty, despite all the names being quoted here (and I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Tal Wilkenfeld). Either they are condescending and refuse to believe that they get any recognition on their own merits 'because they're a gurl', or, they fall over themselves to over-praise a girl's playing 'because it's a gurl', which is also condescending in my book. Blu DeTiger is a pretty good player, but many here have reacted in a way that they wouldn't to the many dozens of similar players out there.

I was under the impression that she had recently been out on tour with her own band, playing arenas supporting Sabrina Carpenter. From looking on her Wikipedia page, it looks like she has already done a fair bit of touring.

That's just idiotic and is justifying everything that @Misdee has been saying! FWIW, I would guess that her success is largely down to her being an aspirational figure to her followers on social media who are impressed by both her abilities and her image. I would imagine that many (if not most) of these followers will be female.

Which by several accounts led to his sacking - his good looks were taking attention away from McCartney, while he and Lennon were setting themselves up as the leaders and focal point of the band. Bands eh...!

C'mon, that's mainly BS and you seem to enjoy coming in and aggressively posting about a subject then getting all upset if people call you out on it. FWIW, I agree with most of what you now say - my issue was that saying that she was 'intermediate' was diminishing her, as was the general tone of your initial posts. No, he's right, her appearance is a big part of her success and to point this out is not being sexist. But so what! Looks have always been a big part of success in popular music, male or female. I put forward the case of Nikki Sixx, but the same applies going back to Frank Sinatra and Elvis. Don't you think that part of the Beatles initial appeal was that Paul McCartney was very good looking and record companies knew that would appeal to teenage girls?

I know, it's a bit bizarre

I don't see the issue with her stage clothes at all - surely she just dresses pretty much the same as any 20 something girl has done on a night out for the last forty years.

Young female (and male) musicians will most likely be on other social media platforms, rather than on a forum like Basschat. Like it or not, music (especially ensemble playing to the public) has been dominated by men throughout the centuries, going back to strolling minstrels in the medieval period. That's not to say that there hasn't always been female musicians, because there always have been, but it has historically been a male dominated arena. I think that it is great that artists like Ms DeTiger are getting recognition and have the potential to inspire young women to play instruments like bass, but those who want to become gigging musicians will have to develop a thick skin and not be too bothered by negative comment if they are to survive, just as young male musicians have to. It isn't for those who are easily offended or upset.

A guitarist not bringing a spare is unforgivable - I've gigged for more than 45 years and only once broken a bass string, while I've played gigs where the guitar player has broken three strings on one show (fortunately he had a couple of spare guitars and the guitarist from the other band changed a string for him while he was playing the other guitar). I will nearly always bring a spare bass, but on the occasional gig it just isn't practical. Whenever I find myself obliged to bring just one bass, I make sure that it is a passive.

Fortunately I had a spare and no one noticed that any thing was wrong!

Yep, a couple of times - wiring problems (last time was when a wire had come lose when I had just changed batteries, for a main stage gig at a big bike rally in front of 2,000 people).

But it is and always has been, same as any artistic pursuit (or even sporting for that matter)!

To be fair, it's just one guy saying "she's a girl and she isn't as good as Marcus Miller, it's all woke innit"! Everyone else is saying that it's a positive thing that she's up there as an potential inspiration to young female bassists. If your niece (or nephew as well for that matter) is going to make their way as a musician they will need a much thicker skin than allowing themselves to get upset by this type of nonsense.

Surely an element of diversity is essential in order for anything to survive and thrive - that's just how nature works...

I've never heard of her before, so I had a quick listen to a couple of minutes of the OP's clip. She might not be another Marcus Miller, but she's way above a 'reasonably competent player at an intermediate level' - sounds like a very competent pro to me. Of course she's got a signature bass because she's a 'marketable player'! As @Burns-bass says above, more young girls are getting interested in playing bass than before and Fender probably see her as someone who might be inspiring to any girl starting out playing bass, who may then aspire to her Fender signature model. Image has always been a factor in success in popular music and it always makes me laugh when any half decent looking woman who manages to break through and get a high profile gig gets comments along the lines of she only got the gig because of the way she looks - do you really think that Nikki Sixx would have his own signature model if he looked like Blakey from On The Busses?

I'm sure that is the most likely outcome. The Gary Moore example shows that the insurers cover themselves even when you would think that the artist has a pretty good case. You have to wonder what the insurance contract for the Oasis reunion is like...! 🙂 I suppose that it's no great surprise, given that the JA situation has been highly dysfunctional since the early days. Ferrell engineered events so that he had the other members over a barrel and they had to agree that he got the vast majority of the money from their initial success. I'm sure that he won't be overly happy that the other members all went on to have pretty successful careers after they broke up, while his solo ventures didn't exactly set the world on fire.

I wonder if the statement is the start of a process where Farrell goes into therapy / rehab or whatever in an attempt to get the insurance to pay out on medical grounds? It is very likely to end up in the courts. I remember that Gary Moore nearly went bankrupt when he had to cancel a tour when he injured his hand and the insurance didn't pay up (the reason why he had to sell the famous 'Greeny' Les Paul and a load of his other vintage guitars).

To be honest, that was my first thought - it's gonna cost them a lot of money! Things must be bad if they can't even manage to manage the situation to finish the tour (and thereby manage to avoid bankruptcy)...!

That's a cool little amp rack. I dunno what the power amp is like, but I would be happy with either of those preamps!

Dunno about that, but a great band back in their day!

Except in this case, the bass player put the singer in a headlock, gave him three quick bodyshots and then went and apologised to the crowd for the disruption!

Buck's Fizz - it all makes sense now! 😉

I started playing with my fingers, switched to a pick for six or seven years in the 80s and then back to fingers in 1990. I've no idea what picks I used all those years ago, only that I never felt 100% comfortable using them compared to fingers.

Pinetop Perkins carried on gigging until he died at the age of 99 and still had nearly a year's worth of bookings in the diary when he passed away!