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[quote name='katana_manatee' post='358667' date='Dec 19 2008, 11:41 AM']If you wanna hear him play something non-jazzy which is just gorgeous then check out his playing on the tune Hejira by Joni Mitchell. Just type that into youtube and click on the one which shows the album cover. Just gorgeous fretless melodies and chords but definately not Jazz.[/quote] Couldn't listen to it until the end. The tune was too painful. I just don't like the tone of his bass. I like a dull thud. Also, I know all you oldies like fretless bass, but you've got to understand that us youngsters associate the sound of a fretless with people who go to Paul Young gigs and call their bird "my partner". It just sounds so dated (dated bad, not dated good).

[quote name='thebeat' post='358716' date='Dec 19 2008, 12:27 PM']+1...anybody that nice has got to be sus...gimme Jaco and his arrogance any day of the week.[/quote] Jaco was no doubt much better to go out on the piss with, but in a bass solo context, I prefer the Predator. At least I can hear the tune he's playing. The Predator does a really lame cheesey cover of Amazing Grace (I think) - its lame and cheesey, but you can tell waht it is.

[quote name='Prosebass' post='358700' date='Dec 19 2008, 12:01 PM']There will be no Christmas for all doubters , I've told Santa where you all live. Shame , shame ,shame. [/quote] Looks like my Christmas was already cancelled given the fact I was off to Vegas but the snow there has meant the airport has been shut for 2 days. I blame Jaco.

[quote name='ARGH' post='358673' date='Dec 19 2008, 11:44 AM']neither is Mick Karn.[/quote] Chaka's brother?

[quote name='katana_manatee' post='358641' date='Dec 19 2008, 11:13 AM']You might wanna check out a tune like continuum next to hear some lovely melodic playing from his first solo album with a lovely solo.[/quote] I will look when I get home. Can't listen at work. If it's anything that could be described as "Jazz" or its kiddy-fiddling cousin "Fusion", then I'm setting fire to my face.

I really like the bass playing on "Come on, come over". That's a quality tune. I just don't understand how that can come from the same person who makes that noise on stage.

[quote name='jakesbass' post='358592' date='Dec 19 2008, 09:50 AM']you're a little gobsh*te and I will always say so[/quote] Agreed. But back to Jaco. I can see that he was innovative, but its easy to be innovative. If I started playing my bass with a golf club and sewing machine, I'd be innovative too. Doesn't make it any good. Also, what's wrong with the tone of his bass? Sounds more like a broken trumpet. As for hitting his strings to make a thud - what's wrong with a drummer? I've never been a fan of solo bass though. I can appreciate that fella who looks like the Predator a bit. His tunes actually have a melody and I can see how people can tap their foot to it. I put Jaco in the same camp as that tosser Jeff Buckley. An early death creates the legend.

[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='358588' date='Dec 19 2008, 09:46 AM']He wasn't a junkie either, in fact his problems began when he STOPPED taking his medication. He was a diagnosed manic depressive.[/quote] You knew him CK? I'm impressed.

[quote name='jakesbass' post='358583' date='Dec 19 2008, 09:36 AM']People that don't like it have that within their right, but to my mind it is so utterly pointless to think about it to the point of being insulting about others' taste.[/quote] But I lack the maturity to just say "not my cup of tea". When I heard that clip I honestly thought it was one of those comedy vids where its overdubbed by someone making random noise. It's so self-indulgent it makes me want to climb a bell tower with a high-powered rifle.

[quote name='steve-soar' post='358341' date='Dec 18 2008, 09:52 PM']I think people feel intimidated be the percieved "freedom" of his playing..... ....He was a total f***ing dude.....end of.[/quote] I've never really had a view on him until watching that clip. All I can say is what utter dog sh1t. Firstly, stop twiddling with f***ing knobs you gay. No one wants to see that. Also, its all loops. No one likes looping apart from Steve Lawson. And whats with that distorted noise? That ain't music where I come from. That's a f*** up. I cannot believe anyone could tap their foot to that. The audience are on the verge of starting a slow clap. By the end of that, I'd be looking forward to listening to that split-arse singing about a yellow taxi. I have a simple rule with music. If an musician is only liked by people who play that instrument, stay well clear. As for being a total f***ing dude - I'd describe him as a f***ed up junkie who should have been more careful when picking his fights.

[quote name='lonestar' post='355264' date='Dec 15 2008, 06:44 PM']Awayday ticket to Charing Cross for 25p. burger from Wimpy and cruise up and down Shaftesbury Avenue[/quote] Can we keep this clean and on-topic please?

[quote name='johnnylager' post='351809' date='Dec 11 2008, 02:36 PM']He's waiting for everyone to club together to save him spending any money. That's how it works. A question - why do naughty people appear to get moderated, while rip-off merchants don't? Or do they? <Dons suit>[/quote] Because rip-off merchants dissappear when they're found out and us naughty people don't.

[quote name='alexclaber' post='351713' date='Dec 11 2008, 01:00 PM']The country scene in Nashville is full of players that are scarily good at reading, can improvise effortlessly over complex changes, yet manage to play half as many notes as even the most minimalist hacks would on their sessions... Alex[/quote] That would explain my fondness of country.

[quote name='bilbo230763' post='351518' date='Dec 11 2008, 10:02 AM']Mainly, and this is a VERY important point, the ability to read music DOES NOT and has NEVER impeded anyone's ability to improvise or be creative. If someone can't improvise or create original lines, it is because they have never learned how, NOT because they can read.[/quote] Not sure if I agree. I mean, you make sense, and it seems logical. I just struggle to explain why I rarely seem to like the music created by those who are technicaly/theorectically very strong. OK, maybe all this Jazz nonsense is creative. Creative doesn't mean good though. Bilbo, would you be playing Jazz if you didn't spend so much time studying theory? Or would you be out there in leather trousers, thrusting your groin at a woman under half your age whilst rockin' out? The music that inspires me usually consists of 3 notes. Y'know those tunes that make you think "It's so simple! How has no one thought of this before?". People who know more seem to struggle to keep it so simple. They find it boring. Hence Jazz.

[quote name='Jean-Luc Pickguard' post='351675' date='Dec 11 2008, 12:13 PM']It must indeed be a great honour to have someone with the wit & wisdom of Finbarr Saunders on your thread.[/quote] You overestimate me.

[quote name='Jean-Luc Pickguard' post='351605' date='Dec 11 2008, 11:13 AM']When I was after a T-bird I tried Tokais, Epiphones and Gibsons. I bought an Epiphone one (Alpine white). I preferred the weight, the neck feel and that you can shim it.[/quote] You love a shim.

Welcome Andy, Stay away from that Jazz though! It's not good for you. Good to have you on board.

[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='349121' date='Dec 8 2008, 09:49 PM']There have been a number of creative pursuits I could have turned into a career (illustration/sculpture/music)[/quote] CK - that quote has made my day!

Excuse me if I'm speaking out of turn, but I think me and AM would make quite the couple! BassChat's first romance perhaps?

Brian Clough was right.

[quote name='AM1' post='349146' date='Dec 8 2008, 10:07 PM']One was not referring to your choice of gift, but to your choice of groom [/quote] I'll have you know that within the TN postcode (and now the wider internet using bass playing community) I'm seen as a quite the catch. I've even been described as being "like a young Fred West".