At The Vic in Derby, don't know if any of you have played there, but you pay a fixed charge to book the place, which is essentially paying for the PA and the sound man, then you keep any money from tickets or on the door. They take their money from the bar. You promote yourself however you can, and the put the date on their month long gig plan and website. Its much easier then what you lot appear to experience, because there's no promoter getting in the way, and there's a good sized space to fit a crowd of about 150 inside, so suppose its you and another support band, £5 a ticket, 120 people or so, then you make £600, take away the fixed charge of £50 I think it is, say another £150 for the support band, then you walk away with £400. More places should be like that in my opinion.
Zach