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How did it go?
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Good grief - she went from New Seekers to Punk Rock in the space of 43 seconds. Great fun, thanks for sharing.
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I had a gig! Proper stage, PA, foldback, audience who could choose whether to listen or walk away, new songs to learn, and some great vocalists. This was my first time on a proper raised stage and it was was hard work, for sure. I struggled to hear the other musicians a little, and until yesterday I had no real concept of how long it would take to set up the kit - an 8 hour day for 90 minutes of playing. I have a new respect for people who play on stage, hats off to you all! It was fun. I want to do it again - but better!
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One band, in two different parts of the room.
bass_dinger replied to bass_dinger's topic in General Discussion
I see that I was unclear - apologies. So, I have two gigs. The panto gig, with PA at both ends of the room, and lots of inexperienced musicians, aiming to put on a show with 10 weeks of rehearsals. This gig has now been cancelled - just two people turned up to the rehearsal in the second week, I am told. However, I have been asked to work with the same band leader to play in a smaller group. On Sunday, I am playing at an open-air event, at the Orpington Food Fair. The band is made up of a number of churches in Orpington - so, a choir of 30, and musicians from different churches. Hence, we are learning to play together, in new keys. Somehow, this feels like an easier gig - the musicians have a track-record of delivering good music, and we were able to get through 20 songs in 2 hours, taking time to refine the arrangements. -
One band, in two different parts of the room.
bass_dinger replied to bass_dinger's topic in General Discussion
I am just the bassist. I do what I am told. It's a church gig. Different churches sing the same standards in different keys. I have played some songs in four different keys in one rehearsal to assist the vocalists to find their happy place. -
One band, in two different parts of the room.
bass_dinger replied to bass_dinger's topic in General Discussion
No. It's behind me . . . -
One band, in two different parts of the room.
bass_dinger replied to bass_dinger's topic in General Discussion
I got a message from the band leader. It had not quite worked out as he expected, and the plan is to do something smaller (fewer people) in the new year. He likes my playing style, and wants me to be part of it. So, it looks like the Panto is not now happening. I can't say that I mind. In the meantime, I have the first proper run through of the Orpington Food Fair band tonight - we play two 45 minute sets, on Sunday. I know about 70 percent of the songs (church stuff), but a lot of them are in new keys. The songs that are new to me (pop songs) I have chord charts for. Only Dancing Queen, and Crazy Little Thing Called Love, are in the right key, and familiar to me. The guitarist is good, and the vocalist are strong. We have PA, and a stage, all on the back of a low-loader. I am hoping that the audience will all be eating burgers and ignoring the band! This is my biggest gig to date. And I am still not getting paid for it!! -
Singers who don't understand how music works
bass_dinger replied to Nail Soup's topic in General Discussion
Come on JapanAxe - don't beat around the bush, don't hold back. Stop sitting on the fence and tell us how you really feel about that song... -
Oooh yeah! Listening to Signed Sealed Delivered - that bassline is very much in the style of Gone At Last. And I have a new favourite bassist.
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Singers who don't understand how music works
bass_dinger replied to Nail Soup's topic in General Discussion
Yes!! My band played Goin' Up Country - the bassline was manageable at the right speed. But they always sped up when we played it live. So, I refused to play it live. Silly of me, I know. But it made me feel important . . . :-) -
Gone at Last I recall hearing this as a teenager, on my aunt's radiogram. I was blown away by the energy of the track. I went back to it, as an adult bass player. I was blown away by the bass line, and wanted to play it. It feels like a musically simply line, but the speed and accuracy required make it difficult to replicate - even Paul Simon's band do not play that bassline in live concerts! It feels like a root-5th, with the occasional third as a passing note. How would I go about working out the bassline? Slow it down, for sure. Write down the notes (rather than rely on memory). Any other tips? For some reason, it reminds me of the bassline to Aretha Franklin's Blues Brother version of "Think!" - it has the same use of chord tones, and passing notes.
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One band, in two different parts of the room.
bass_dinger replied to bass_dinger's topic in General Discussion
So, I lost my mum at the start of June the year, and wanted to be with my dad more often, at this time. His heart attack simply added to the urgency. I think that dad would appreciate my being with him, so, that feels like the right answer. I only joined the other band to stretch my musical self a little. But right now, that it not the priority. -
Singers who don't understand how music works
bass_dinger replied to Nail Soup's topic in General Discussion
Yes, Mr Punter - the TUNE goes like that . . . but how does the bassline go? What are the harmonies? At least your singer realised that he needs to sing the bassline to you. -
One band, in two different parts of the room.
bass_dinger replied to bass_dinger's topic in General Discussion
A lot of people have told me that, so, it must be true. -
One band, in two different parts of the room.
bass_dinger replied to bass_dinger's topic in General Discussion
An update, but not a nice one. My wife is due to go in for minor surgery later this week, so, I want to look after her. However, my dad suffered two heart attacks last week, and had a stent fitted, so, I want to look after him too! I don't think that the Panto group remains a priority, and I did not much enjoy it, so, I will consider dropping out. -
Singers who don't understand how music works
bass_dinger replied to Nail Soup's topic in General Discussion
An update. I played for the same vocal group, at a memorial service. They wanted to sign acapella. They sung in G flat. The pianist suggested that G would be easier for the band, (keys, bass, drums), and gave them a G chord, and starting note. Yes, they were happy to rehearse like that. They sung a chorus, then a verse, acapella - band came in, all was well. The actual service? Started in G, sung a chorus, then a verse, acapella - but the band already realised that the vocalists were no longer in G. Closer to G three-quarters flat. So, almost G flat. It took me a while to work out which key we were in, and how to signal to the keys player where we were - I wanted to signal the number of flats, but could not remember how many flats G flat had!! And when I worked it out that it was six, I did not have enough fingers on one hand! Later, the vocalists did the same thing again - this time, the key of D drifted to D flat. After the service, which was broadcast, I felt compelled to let some of them know why we did not start to play where we had agreed. "We need to find the new key - you had drifted!". "I don't know about keys. I just sing. We expected you to come in when you said you would." I will laugh about this, one day. But not today! -
I tune my open strings on a Boss TU2, using the strobe setting. Open strings are spot-on (apart from a wavering low B). I then fret the string at the 5th fret and it registers as sharp - the strobe moves upwards, slowly. Of course, I may be only looking at a few cents out, but it is odd to see the tuning is not the same all the way up the fret board. The strings (a £5 set from eBay) are about a year old and are 45 to 125. The bass was set up for a set of Dunlop steels (40 to 120). So, should I simply tune so that the 5th fret note is right? Should I change the intonation? Should I buy a better tuner? Fit new strings? Should I simply not worry?
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Oh What a Night. The key was too high for any of our singers, and I did not want to learn it in another key. I wish by Stevie Wonder - right song, wrong key! Since I left, they have recorded the song on bass and ukulele Respect by Aretha Franklin - ultimately, the band was not keen, although it worked when a few of us played it. All of the songs were great basslines, with simple chords, in search of a competent band!
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One band, in two different parts of the room.
bass_dinger replied to bass_dinger's topic in General Discussion
You're a hitman? Shoot me, now. -
One band, in two different parts of the room.
bass_dinger replied to bass_dinger's topic in General Discussion
I am told that the leader does have more PA, but won't bring it along yet, as it is too much kit to move around. -
One band, in two different parts of the room.
bass_dinger replied to bass_dinger's topic in General Discussion
I am in a second, also new, group, in which I am doing more of the admin work. That's fine, because the new group is very capable, and made up of better musicians from my town. And me . . . The Panto group, however, has dumbed-down chords - although I am told that the chords will be corrected later. So, we practice the wrong chords, then move across to the correct version. Currently, the dance moves consist of people walking around in a circle, and getting used to moving while singing. I suspect that the script, and the dance moves, will be tailored to what the musicians can play, and the singers can sing. " . . . . oooh. Snow White is lost and in the woods. Where can she stay tonight...? " "Why not take a train to Waterloo, and stay at the YMCA . . .?" -
One band, in two different parts of the room.
bass_dinger replied to bass_dinger's topic in General Discussion
I think that I want to help them - to support the project. They are clearly enjoying themselves, and I feel that I want to give something back to the community. However, I am not convinced that this is the right group to do that with - I am a bassist, not an arranger or organiser.