bass_dinger

Are we all back playing at church? Are we preparing for Christmas? Working on the basslines for the hymns? Working out how to see the sheet music when Carols by Candlelight really does mean, candles!

Different instruments ?? I don't even have a different setting on the bass's tone, volume and balance knobs! The amp is set flat too. I thought that it was all in the fingers, muting, note length, and where and how one plucks.

Shaggy and the Beatles - Let it Be Me

My guess is that you learnt them all correctly - the keys, the bass runs, the fills, the interplay between the drummer and the bassist. Sadly, the rest of the band then learnt them wrongly, or simplified the arrangements, or decided that every song should be in G. If it's any consolation, my church band regularly used to send out the sheet music in one key, a chord chart in another key, and a YouTube video in a third key. We would then rehearse it in a fourth key, before changing it to a 5th key to suit the vocalists.

There can't be many gigs where you can speak directly to management about the number of songs . . .

No keys? No chord charts? No YouTube videos as a point of reference? In that case, I can see why you won't be taking it further. I play in a church band, and I would struggle with 83 songs with no help given.

How did it go?

Good grief - she went from New Seekers to Punk Rock in the space of 43 seconds. Great fun, thanks for sharing.

I had a gig! Proper stage, PA, foldback, audience who could choose whether to listen or walk away, new songs to learn, and some great vocalists. This was my first time on a proper raised stage and it was was hard work, for sure. I struggled to hear the other musicians a little, and until yesterday I had no real concept of how long it would take to set up the kit - an 8 hour day for 90 minutes of playing. I have a new respect for people who play on stage, hats off to you all! It was fun. I want to do it again - but better!

I see that I was unclear - apologies. So, I have two gigs. The panto gig, with PA at both ends of the room, and lots of inexperienced musicians, aiming to put on a show with 10 weeks of rehearsals. This gig has now been cancelled - just two people turned up to the rehearsal in the second week, I am told. However, I have been asked to work with the same band leader to play in a smaller group. On Sunday, I am playing at an open-air event, at the Orpington Food Fair. The band is made up of a number of churches in Orpington - so, a choir of 30, and musicians from different churches. Hence, we are learning to play together, in new keys. Somehow, this feels like an easier gig - the musicians have a track-record of delivering good music, and we were able to get through 20 songs in 2 hours, taking time to refine the arrangements.

I am just the bassist. I do what I am told. It's a church gig. Different churches sing the same standards in different keys. I have played some songs in four different keys in one rehearsal to assist the vocalists to find their happy place.

No. It's behind me . . .

I got a message from the band leader. It had not quite worked out as he expected, and the plan is to do something smaller (fewer people) in the new year. He likes my playing style, and wants me to be part of it. So, it looks like the Panto is not now happening. I can't say that I mind. In the meantime, I have the first proper run through of the Orpington Food Fair band tonight - we play two 45 minute sets, on Sunday. I know about 70 percent of the songs (church stuff), but a lot of them are in new keys. The songs that are new to me (pop songs) I have chord charts for. Only Dancing Queen, and Crazy Little Thing Called Love, are in the right key, and familiar to me. The guitarist is good, and the vocalist are strong. We have PA, and a stage, all on the back of a low-loader. I am hoping that the audience will all be eating burgers and ignoring the band! This is my biggest gig to date. And I am still not getting paid for it!!

Come on JapanAxe - don't beat around the bush, don't hold back. Stop sitting on the fence and tell us how you really feel about that song...

Oooh yeah! Listening to Signed Sealed Delivered - that bassline is very much in the style of Gone At Last. And I have a new favourite bassist.

Yes!! My band played Goin' Up Country - the bassline was manageable at the right speed. But they always sped up when we played it live. So, I refused to play it live. Silly of me, I know. But it made me feel important . . . :-)

Gone at Last I recall hearing this as a teenager, on my aunt's radiogram. I was blown away by the energy of the track. I went back to it, as an adult bass player. I was blown away by the bass line, and wanted to play it. It feels like a musically simply line, but the speed and accuracy required make it difficult to replicate - even Paul Simon's band do not play that bassline in live concerts! It feels like a root-5th, with the occasional third as a passing note. How would I go about working out the bassline? Slow it down, for sure. Write down the notes (rather than rely on memory). Any other tips? For some reason, it reminds me of the bassline to Aretha Franklin's Blues Brother version of "Think!" - it has the same use of chord tones, and passing notes.

I noticed about 3 months ago, when the strings were 10 months old.

So, I lost my mum at the start of June the year, and wanted to be with my dad more often, at this time. His heart attack simply added to the urgency. I think that dad would appreciate my being with him, so, that feels like the right answer. I only joined the other band to stretch my musical self a little. But right now, that it not the priority.

Yes, Mr Punter - the TUNE goes like that . . . but how does the bassline go? What are the harmonies? At least your singer realised that he needs to sing the bassline to you.

A lot of people have told me that, so, it must be true.

An update, but not a nice one. My wife is due to go in for minor surgery later this week, so, I want to look after her. However, my dad suffered two heart attacks last week, and had a stent fitted, so, I want to look after him too! I don't think that the Panto group remains a priority, and I did not much enjoy it, so, I will consider dropping out.

I will have a look later this week. However, I play with a vocal group that drifts from G to G flat, so, a few cents is more likely to be what I would earn if I went busking with them, rather than the measure of my tuning problem . . .

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An update. I played for the same vocal group, at a memorial service. They wanted to sign acapella. They sung in G flat. The pianist suggested that G would be easier for the band, (keys, bass, drums), and gave them a G chord, and starting note. Yes, they were happy to rehearse like that. They sung a chorus, then a verse, acapella - band came in, all was well. The actual service? Started in G, sung a chorus, then a verse, acapella - but the band already realised that the vocalists were no longer in G. Closer to G three-quarters flat. So, almost G flat. It took me a while to work out which key we were in, and how to signal to the keys player where we were - I wanted to signal the number of flats, but could not remember how many flats G flat had!! And when I worked it out that it was six, I did not have enough fingers on one hand! Later, the vocalists did the same thing again - this time, the key of D drifted to D flat. After the service, which was broadcast, I felt compelled to let some of them know why we did not start to play where we had agreed. "We need to find the new key - you had drifted!". "I don't know about keys. I just sing. We expected you to come in when you said you would." I will laugh about this, one day. But not today!