SpaceChick

exactly none as a bassist Hoping to get our first gig with our band in the autumn though. As a classical musician, 5 years with an average of 2 a month, around 100 (gosh I'd have thought it would be more than that!!)

I cheat... We play "Another Brick in the Wall" in the band.... I'm not tuning down to D for ONE note! Sod it, I just play the higher D, and I do have a spare bass I could use. You could always buy a 5 string as a second bass, you'd have your low C & D then with a bonus B

Good on you matey Sounds a good week

I'm in awe that 1. You had the balls to give it a shot 2. That you actually pulled it off and 3. That you have another gig (albeit on electric) tonight. You are one amazing dude

I have nothing productive to add, just wanted to say that I have loved reading this thread! It's made me shocked, it's made me laugh, and it's made me root for you for tomorrow!! Can't wait to find out how it went

[quote name='Bo0tsy' timestamp='1343921641' post='1757393'] Forgot to say I also recommend a book/CD called 'Funk Guitar and Bass' by Pete Madsen - it's got both tab and notation and covers everything from James Brown, RHCP, Parliament/Funkadelic, James Jamerson, etc.. [/quote] I like the sound of this book

Debs rethinks future wording of posts

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1343847418' post='1756340'] Yes! His member name is pushytosseroopsivebeensacked. [/quote] Bet it is too Well I've been at the football tonight, but have had one text from the drummer saying he'd text asking could he come back to the band!! Drummer has said "No chance" I don't get this guy I really don't! As for the poster who asked about band ages.... I'm the youngest at 38, the lead singer is in his late 40's, the ditched guitarist was early 50's, our lead guitarist is 60 and our drummer is 62 so a group of youngsters we aren't. Our drummer has been gigging for over 40 years, so I reckon he's seen his fair share of arses in that time!!

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1343824775' post='1755790'] Imagine this shoved up his patronising arse [url="http://www.ritter-instruments.com/item_info.php?i=234"]http://www.ritter-in..._info.php?i=234[/url] [/quote] Nice

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1343819942' post='1755639'] You've got the rhythm. Can you do BVs? If so, you may be able to show you don't need another band member. Less is more.* *More or less. [/quote] Can sing for toffee!!! and definitely can't sing and play at the same time. I may be a woman, but that is one arena where I definitely can't multitask

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1343819555' post='1755619'] Do you? Is it [i]really [/i]necessary? [/quote] To be honest, I don't think so. However, the rest of the band want one for backing vocals too and well as rhythm. Ah well.... watch this space

Yey Guess who has been ditched OK, we need to find another rhythm guitarist, but right now I am very very happy I loves my band mates I do

Cool, glad its spurred you on I think having a teacher is important and you can get steered in the right direction.

[quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1343813287' post='1755480'] Whilst I recognise the notion, it's a bit like setting a trap the guy can never escape from - you'll just sit in wait until he puts a foot wrong. And that whole approach is symptomatic of him not being the right player for the band; so why dance around the edges? Go for the root of the problem, and suggest that he is not the one and that you should continue to search. I mean, if he's not right, why wait? Save yourself time and stress and go look for someone new. [/quote] I do agree with you, however, I have only been in the band 4 weeks, so its not my call to make.

[quote name='merello' timestamp='1343809991' post='1755436'] 'If you can't learn this set list....do you want simpler songs?' [/quote] Love it, this is going into my head for next week

Heard from the Lead Guitarist, he's not happy one bit. I've been told to "watch this space", however, he is not prepared to walk on eggshells, and he will be told if he steps out of line again. Both the Drummer and the Lead Guitarist have now told me that they are not prepared for me to be undermined and intimidated and that they will not allow me to be a casualty. I am the more important band member So, I am going to be gracious next week, until he puts a foot out of line, and then I am going to become a rotweiller!!

[quote name='Ruiner' timestamp='1343807216' post='1755375'] So yeah, he's obviously an idiot. Either subconsciously or deliberately he's undermining and belittling you in front of the rest of the band. However it sounds like the rest of the band aren't idiots and so chances are they'll be thinking the same as you. I'm tempted to say give it another week and see what happens, but having been in bands with people like that, it probably will just serve to make you feel even more angry. [/quote] Oh he IS deliberately undermining me as he has his bass friend that wants/needs a band, but I am a stubborn woman, and he is NOT pushing me out of MY band!!!!! I know I am only a relative beginner, and so am not a great bass player, but I can hold a tune and a groove, and I am learning fast. And I would like to think that what I lack in skill I make up for in hard work and dedication. OH said to give it another week too, as he reckons he will just keep digging a deeper grave for himself!

I have text our drummer, he has text me back telling me I am doing a fine job and not to let the guitard undermine me. He said that he was annoyed as he was trying to impose himself and is a new boy. I have replied saying I thought his attitude was bang out of order and was rude and arrogant and we should see what the lead guitarist and singer thought as I felt our dynamic wasn't as good. [quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1343807052' post='1755373'] Excellent post Lojo. Also, a conversation with the drummer rather than a text or email may well be a better option. Good luck, hope it works out for you. [/quote] I agree speaking would be better, but he's in a job where he can't speak on the phone in the day but can text, and I'm out tonight so can't ring him.

I thought I would have slept on it and have calmed down. I am actually even more livid as I have been replaying last nights events in my head. In one song (hes also backing voicalist), he was obviously watching my hands, and he screamed down the microphone "Its a C Deb"... I was at that moment playing a G, BECAUSE as we all know, unless you want to spend your life playing root notes, you can actually move around a fret board, and the golden drop down is one fabulous way to make a groove!!!!!!!!!! Oh, and one song where he wasn't familiar, who did he look to to give him chords!!!!!! Yep me!!!!! I reeled them off quickly like a shopping list and then turned to face the drummer..... I swear this man is a complete Ars*hole. I'm going to text the drummer in a bit and ask him what his views were on last night, be rather non commital and see what he comes back with. I mean who the f*ck does he think he is, strolling in like he owns the place!!! I have been asked if I would like to add any song to the setlist, what I have said is I would like to learn and master the setlist first (we have a bank of about 30 songs), but I have shared which ones are my favourites from within the setlist that I would like to ensure are included. I think this shows commitment but also shows humility. To turn up with a printed sheet of A4 with 20 songs on it that you would like (basically re-writting our whole set, only 3 songs ARE on the set list) is just complete arrogance. I know in my heart of hearts I WILL NOT be able to work with this excuse for a human being, but equally, I don't want to be the one who demands his demise from the band.... the rest of the band have been together a year, I've only been there for a month. I'm hoping our lovely lead guitarist will push for him leaving. And breathe..... although the side of me that sees the irony of the situtaion thinks back to my excited first post about being in the band and several BCers saying "I wonder how long before the first guitarist moan".... well chaps.... 4 weeks

[quote name='Musky' timestamp='1343774094' post='1755199'] I think at this point I'd be wondering why the rest of the band would even entertain the idea of this guy. He's barely got his foot in the door and he's trying to dictate to the band. Guitarists are ten-a-penny - just find another without his head wedged so firmly up his a*se. [/quote] The band has been through a number of changes.... They lost their last bassist who left for another band, and they had to fire the last rhythm guitarist.... They are eager to get on the road..... But I am going to chat with the other members and get their view. One interesting thing was we didn't do our original tracks.... I don't think our singer "trusts" this guitarist with them. I'm hoping sense will prevail and he will be ditched by next week.

Our drummer did look at me at one point when I was going through an angry stage and whispered "don't let him get to you". The dynamic of our happy band seemed really different tonight.... AND he kept insisting we go over songs, and part of songs and then was talking for ages in between. The chap who's rehearsal room we use was rolling his eyes at me too when the Guitard was going off one of his "don't you think we can try going from a C to a C sharp to add a bit of definition" ..... Um no, because then it sounds like F*CKING SH*T!!!!!!!!! You guys are getting all my pent up anger now..... I should have just decked the w*nker when I had the chance

...... To ram a bass guitar up your rhythm guitarists arse? The story, 4 weeks ago I tried out for my band, as did the rhythm guitarist. He said it wasn't for him and he walked away... We started our search for a new rhythm guitarist. Two weeks ago, he text our drummer to say he would come back but only if he could bring his bass guitar friend... But the band would have to "Ditch the Girl" ie. Me!! Our drummer told him in no uncertain terms that this was not an option. So last week he said he'd come back on his own. Tonight was the first rehearsal with him back, knowing what I already knew from our drummer, I was not feeling the love before I started. Then a few tracks in, he stopped the band mid track to say he 'Didn't like my groove' well f*ck off then mate!!!! He was being a right patronising tw*t!!!! Then he tried to crowbar in some tracks into our setlist, he asked me what I thought and I told him "We already HAVE a setlist" and one that the band are happy with. He's purposefully trying songs where the bassline is beyond me at the moment, I think he's trying to undermine me to try and get his mate in. I swear, I will not be responsible for my actions! I am going to email the drummer when I have calmed down to say how uncomfortable I felt with him being so patronising. I know I have the drummer and lead guitarists support, and I think I have the lead singers support. I did stuff up a few numbers tonight though as I was feeling really on edge. Do you think I am doing the right thing emailing the drummer? I am loving being in the band, but tonight I spent most of the night feeling angry, under pressure or uncomfortable, which is not fun!

I have this tshirt which I think is cool http://www.zazzle.co.uk/yes_i_am_a_girl_text_only_play_bass_purple_tshirt-235291401826389991

[quote name='SpaceChick' timestamp='1343582098' post='1752325'] Yep, I cat see it on my iPad either [/quote] But I can see it on my work PC Just watched it now I'm in work, and hell girl.... you can rock!!!!! You were bloody brilliant! Saying you can't play... pfft!

I tend to have a toddler-esque temper tantrum... Then slow it down, practice it in batches of 4 bars, then add them together, if I still,can't get it, I have a bigger toddler type tantrum and sulk