dadagoboi
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Done and shipped to Hamburg. Big Ferrules! I procrastinated for a week before destroying a perfectly good finish. I'd done relics but on factory finishes and it was before I seriously started building. It was fun for a change but probably not something I'll do again.
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33" Reverse P/J Jazz bass, blocks & binding (FINISHED PICS)
dadagoboi replied to honza992's topic in Build Diaries
I feel for you. Been there, as recently as this summer and close this week. Have you considered contacting General Finishes as well as the turbine manufacturer? What's the procedure for spraying multiple coats of the waterbase? Does it need to be scuff sanded after drying so the next layer will adhere? It's a long shot but compatibility issues sometimes cause strange results that don't immediately appear. For example, acrylic lacquer over nitro. After a month or so the nitro underneath shrinks while the acrylic doesn't and you get an unwanted crackle effect. Simillar result from mixing too many media. My latest almost catastrophe was refinning a 20 year old red poly body to gloss black. I thought I'd try something new, shoot flat black automotive primer surfacer, scuff sand it with 320 and shoot clear automotive acrylic lacquer over it. It looked great but large areas with very rough surfaces appeared the next morning. I block sanded it carefully shot more clear and the same thing happened. Once again block sanding and another heavy clear application. Surface wasn't completely perfect but I was able to block sand it flat. Fingers crossed when I polish it there won't be any gray looking areas. Best of luck the next go round! -
I notched the two saddle bridge to get better intonation. Black lines are now the break points. Definite improvement. Dents and bruises.
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Made the one screw finger rest from maple headstock scrap. On screen is a Fneder CS '55 to make sure the one ply guard came out right and finger rest properly located. I aged the chrome and nickel in a muriatic (hydrochloric) acid fume bath. Takes about 30 minutes to get that level of patina. Aging the pure white pickguard starts with yellow dye stain. White guard is from a Squier 50s blonde P. Great bass for the price! 100 grit paper double stick taped to finger rest. After a few spins and some Minwax "Jacobean" oil stain for dirt and it looks like my actual '55 did... ...after the rattlecan black, yellow dye, and Jacobean treatment.
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Here's my spray gun setup. Modded guns to hold screw on pint jars ('Mason' jars in the US, made for home canning). The screw tops allow very little waste of materials and simplify cleaning of the $20 Chinese 1.7 mm nozzle guns. My compressor is 5HP, 20 gal. used, $125 I spray 'low volume low pressure' About 25 psi at the tip of the siphon feed setup. Overspray is kept to a minimum and doesn't require an exhaust fan, just a good respirator and opening the rollup when shooting is over. Better Living Through Chemistry: what it takes to spray properly in a wet, warm/cold climate with minimal problems. From left: medium, slow thinners, retarder, and flow controller for preventing orange peel. Accurate thermometer/humidity gauge is also a big help. Yesterday was sunny, relatively dry, and 27. Today it's raining, 88% humidity and 17. Relic time. #0000 steel wool
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33" Reverse P/J Jazz bass, blocks & binding (FINISHED PICS)
dadagoboi replied to honza992's topic in Build Diaries
Absolutely flat. Better to spend the time leveling sooner than later. If you miscalculate how bad the orange peel is and sand thru the clear later you'll be spending a lot more time fixing it than getting it right before shooting clear. I block sand the primer (or sanding sealer) coat with 240 and than 320 before applying color base. There won't be any orange peel with properly applied after coats and if there is 320 or 400 will take care of them. As far as the first step, sanding.80/120/180/240 with a block to get an absolutely perfect starting surface. Depending on wood I steam with a wet washcloth and clothes iron on stun to raise fibers before and after 120. Sandpaper is aluminum oxide (white) nofil type. I don't use grain filler and generally use pro furniture finishes from Mohawk or automotive products. I don't use waterbase because no one really knows how long it will last. I used it on industrial production line furniture in the 90s . It did not hold up and every year there's a 'new and improved' version. I'll go with tried and true vs that. Ribbon mahogany, Mohawk Ultra Penetrating dyestain and clear Piano Lacquer nitro. I really love your work honza992. That neck is stunning! -
honza992, thanks for the compliments. In reply to your questions: Satin gold is just metallic pigment so it turns clear lacquer opaque. Candy concentrates are just pigment, no pearl. They make clear translucent. Pearl powders are also translucent when mixed in clear but with the pearl effect. Pearl varies as to the undercoat. Depending on color you can use black, white or a color that works with the pearl for the effect you seek. The gray is a primer surfacer to get a smooth surface to start the paint process. I hope that helps a little!
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I bought a new ThunderBird in 1977. I was a broke musician living in Los Angeles so I sold it to a guy from Sweden. At that point it was just a used bass. I paid $250 for it in '73 and got $400 in '77. That combined with the $125 I got for my '71 Vox Phantom just about covered the TBird purchase. Luckily.my 1960 was worth about zero so I kept it. Bought it for $40 in '64. I added the '68 Tele pickup and refinned it natural in '72. I've toyed with building a replica of the '55. MusiKraft will build a vintage spec neck for a reasonable price including baseball bat profile. I have a spare set of original reverse Klusons and everything else is available or I can make. Parts is parts when it comes to Fenders.
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"Vintage tint" without the StewMac overcharge. .
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Old school. These days many use silver. It's like the difference between chrome and nickel, personal preference. Here's my Duck Dunn tribute, also gold base.
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Candy Apple Red toner. Didspade 'Bloodshot' and blue candy pigments in thinned clear acrylic lacquer for the correct tone. Color check. Toned and cleared. Testing took much longer than execution.
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Color sample time. Gold over pick guard material scrap, both black and white. I use Didspade pigments. Very economical and available in small quantities. Satin gold pearl powder in clear acrylic lacquer. Pearl gray primer/ surfacer is the way to go.Touch up gun for samples. Matching headstock on this one.
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Thanks. Yes it will definitely add some treble! I've done a few similar mods. Substituting a TB set for a Jazz set will give you more bass and treble but you'll lose the typical 'Fender' tone. All three of the above basses are Squiers, they cost between $125 and $300. So not a lot of money squandered if they didn't turn out as expected.
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dadagoboi started following Modded '55 Precision Relic
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The concept on this one is a second series single coil bass refinned in the late sixties and fitted with a pair of ThunderBird pickups and heavily gigged.. I bought an Ebay contoured but unrouted for electronics alder body (technically should have been ash) and an Allparts Tele Bass neck. Here's the mockup after drilling the string thru holes. Bridge and pickguard are off my MIJ '51 RI. This thread is mostly going to be about finishing and relicing. Color will be Candy Apple Red over gold base. Speaking of relics, here I am playing my '55 in 1974.