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Are high end basses for investors or musicians?
molan replied to Pinball's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='artisan' timestamp='1378394382' post='2199646'] Don't dis' the Harley !!! my Superglide Custom will cry if i tell her you called her "inferior" i gave up riding sport bikes a while ago,too many near death experiences riding R1's etc. [/quote] Harley negativity often falls into the same camp as 'expensive bass' negativity. One person's definition of 'inferior' is very, very different when it comes to bikes - maybe even more so than basses! Most Harley riders enjoy every minute of their time on their bike and a huge percentage have come from a sports bike background. To them their 'inferior' bike is actually far 'superior' to a high tech sports bike. I think the bigger difference is that there's an even greater level of snobbery involved between HD riders and sports bike owners. Neither side can see any benefit or interest in each other's machines I spent quite a few years owning both Harleys and top of the range sports bikes. Just for fun I used to turn up at events on the 'wrong' bike to see how my friends would react. I've been to big Harley events on a Ducati 999, Aprilia RSVR Factory, MV Agusta F4 1000, Suzuki GSXR 1000 and a few others. Most of my friends were fine but there were some people I thought I knew well who would actively avoid me if I was wearing sports bike leathers instead of obligatory black, well worn, Harley type gear. The GSXR was probably the worst, I actually saw one HD guy spit at it! Conversely I've been to a few more general bike events on a Harley and got similar reaction from sports bikers. I did have a heavy custom low rider chop for a while with a 2.1 litre drag bike engine, gearbox and clutch that pulled off the line like a train, that surprised a few 'crotch rocketeers' Of course they would lose me round the first bend, lol. The stupid thing is that I was the same person whatever I rode but some people couldn't see past the 'badge' I was wearing and genuinely treated me differently based on what I chose to ride to meet them I think there's an increasing amount of this amongst bass players but it's more of a one way street. It's the 'he's got a Fodera, must be a lawyer who can't really play' brigade who are much worse than the other way round though. Let's face it - You don't see lots of threads with Fodera owners saying that people with low cost basses must have poorly paying jobs and are novice junior players do you? -
[quote name='GriffJamerson' timestamp='1378376311' post='2199256'] YES! I agree, i saw Paul Turner with Jamiriquai and the sound was incredible! So I'm also gonna vote Aguilar. I thought he would have used a DB410 with his 750 but he used a GS410. i was surprised, but not shocked as both sets of cabs are amazing! I have a DB410 for sale as well.........just thought I'd kinda put that out there hahahaha! [/quote] Pretty sure Paul has owned just about every configuration of 10" and 12" cab Aguilar make at some point or another Interestingly he settled on the GS 410's for big gigs but the DB112's for smaller club type gigs. He's now moved to a multi-amp, multi cab lightweight option and has a TH500', TH350 and 3 or 4 SL112's (often all being used at the same time!). I love the DB410 cabs, they sound great with the TH500 heads as well - in fact I was using one just yesterday
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[quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1378253727' post='2197851'] Sigh, they don't need another bass player, do they? That's good to hear. We've had our share of "my bloody band" threads, so it's good to hear from someone obviously enjoying it Did you manage to learn the five songs? [/quote] I did learn the songs but was a bit patchy on one of them. The drummer didn't know it and the arrangement was a bit complicated. However the guys were really supportive and we pretty much bashed through it first time - in fact I was able to point out some parts that the band maybe didn't have quite right and we incorporated them into e arrangement
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I joined a band earlier this summer and am enjoying it more than any band I've been in for a long time. They are really well organised, every member is a nice bloke and the music is fun to play. Rehearsals are fixed well in advance, we set up at 7:15, ready to play within 20 minutes or so, finish at 9:40 and in the pub by 10:00 for a beer and a natter. Everyone turns up knowing the songs planned for each night and each person's views about making any changes to arrangements are discussed, tried out and taken on board if they work. No egos, no silly posturing but we don't suffer from the problem you sometimes get in a democracy of not making decisions and faffing around wasting time. Lots of jokes and wisecracks all evening and lots of smiling going on as well It's also the first band in a while where I haven't been the person doing a lot of the organising. Gives me time to learn the material, set up a new pedal board and concentrate on playing. Couple of gigs booked already but they've left enough time to make sure the two new boys (me and the drummer) are properly bedded in. Really looking forward to them!
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SOLD: Fender Custom Shop 64 Jazz Closet Classic
molan replied to Old Horse Murphy's topic in Basses For Sale
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I've seen Deke with Man many times. Always very entertaining Holmes Green isn't far from me either. . .
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USA Fender Custom Shop Pino Palladino P Bass- WITHDRAWN
molan replied to Legion's topic in Basses For Sale
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Played my first one recently. Really, really nice. There was one one on eBay for an absolute age that I was watching and waiting to drop in price but the seller just kept re-listing over and over at the same price. The price wasn't that bad but I didn't want to risk it without trying properly first. Definitely a very high quality instrument
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The blurb says it's a 35" scale as well?
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Are high end basses for investors or musicians?
molan replied to Pinball's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='gjones' timestamp='1378124717' post='2195952'] People who buy these instruments are usually 55 year old dentists. It's either a guitar or a Harley Davidson. EDIT : Sometimes both [/quote] I don't think there's many people who be in the either/or camp. Minimum entry price on one is way higher than the other. Definitely lots of people who buy both though. Interestingly Harley also try to sometimes position their bikes as investments and also bring out limited edition models every year that are big, big money. Maybe both should be forced to say "the value of investments in our products can go down as well as down". . . -
[quote name='muddyman1' timestamp='1378059287' post='2195308'] all useful, all considered. Many thanks people. Why post 2008? And as far as vintage goes, any thoughts on a '75 model? [/quote] There are some nice '75's out there but you'll need to work a bit at finding a really good original one that isn't heavy. The '75 Reissue is generally a nice bass and the new '74 Reissue is maybe more authentic and another step up from the '75RI. You'll definitely see some '75RI's on the used market but the '74 hasn't been around long so hasn't really hit pre-owned status yet.
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Lakland Skyline JO Limited Edition - GONE, please remove
molan replied to Bigwan's topic in Basses For Sale
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There's some evidence to say that a few '69's had the extended G saddle on the bridge. It's generally believed to be an 'early '70's' thing but I was reading up on this for someone recently and found a source saying that Fender first introduced them in '69 and not '70. It's not really a big deal but might be a nice little touch if you haven't already sourced a bridge
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[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1378028883' post='2194762'] DV247 went bust? I missed that (Wasn't reading music forums for a while). The web site is still there, I presume they were acquired. Or, is it the receivers selling off stock? Edit: More information here: [url="http://www.dv247.com/news/DV247%20Is%20Not%20In%20Administration/133450"]http://www.dv247.com...stration/133450 [/url] DV247 has been purchased by what seems to be one of Thomann's German competitors, so overall market competition shouldn't have decreased. Someone on here was asking about the Thomann 'Harley Benton' VM-J-a-like recently. DV247 have a similar item http://www.dv247.com/guitars/jandd-jb-vintage-1975-na-bass-guitar-natural--201563 [/quote] The general view I picked up from distributors is that the two companies raised a few prices at more or less the same time. They are definitely in competition but maybe not as keen to keep undercutting each other these days. I wouldn't exactly say they are in direct collusion with each other, maybe just making sure that margins are at a decent operating level. Makese sense really. The crazy price war in some areas must have been a major contribution to the failure of the original DV247 business. Although they are now online only, with significantly reduced basic overheads, I'm sure they'd struggle to keep going on some of the margins that used to be seen.
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Fender Custom Shop Custom Classic Jazz SOLD
molan replied to leroydiamond's topic in Basses For Sale
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[quote name='funkypenguin' timestamp='1377989520' post='2194537'] I'd love to drop in just to see how the Fodera MG standard stacks up [/quote] It's lovely to play. Some people find the shorter scale not to their taste, especially if they are aggressive players who really like to dig in (obviously that's not really Matt Garrison's style or aim so it's somewhat understandable). It's built more along the lines of their customs than the other standards with different neck/body construction and back angled headstock etc. It's also a really pretty instrument in the flesh, a little difficult to catch the quality of the top on film. Very 'tactile' as well, just seems to fit really nicely. We've sold 2 or 3 of these now and every owner has raved about them. Definitely something quite special
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[quote name='bluejay' timestamp='1377990098' post='2194545'] Sterling's exchange rate with the Euro has plummeted recently, and that makes everything for sale on Thomann look a lot more expensive. [/quote] They have quietly been raising prices of some stuff as well. Particularly things they have to import from the States. One distributor told me he'd monitored prices and it seemed that they started to rise after DV247 went under. There has been quite a price war going on with some brands and it wasn't really sustainable - DV247 being a perfect example
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[quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1377989149' post='2194530'] But he's not from Yorkshire, Molan Welcome in [/quote] I hadn't realised God was such a fan of rain But then I guess he's responsible for dropping so much of it on you so maybe he does prefer it a milder sunny climate .
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My worry is that the PF heads have a really, really bad reputation for reliability. Some people have been lucky but a lot of people have had problems and I've heard of at least one Ampeg dealer who refuses to stock them.. Could just be 'urban myth' stuff but I've personally known two people who had big problems and that's two more than I've heard of with issues from MarkBass gear. My personal favourite of this type of combo is the MarkBass Mini CMD121. It's a bit lighter and smaller but still packs quite a punch. It also sits really well on top of quite a few extension cabs. I gigged one with a Traveller 1x15 for a while and I've played one with the vertical 1x12 which looks really good as a match and raises the combo controls to a great gigging height.
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[quote name='Excalibr' timestamp='1377973405' post='2194313'] Also dropping in to say I had my first visit to the shop today - Barrie is a great chap and I had a great time messing about on a few basses - very tempted by the Godin Shifter P/J basses! [/quote] Allowing people to mess about on nice basses is what we live for Always like to see / hear people trying new stuff!
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[quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1377965251' post='2194189'] Bought my first item from Bass Gear today. Great service and a good chat with Barrie too. [/quote] Always enjoy a good natter with another bass player - I think it's the only thing that keeps me sane sometimes
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Thomann are great for 'commodity' items that will always sound the same wherever they come from. They seem to be going through an 'expensive' period at the moment though and have become a lot less price competitive than they used to be. Their historical strength in pricing tends to give them good listings in Google search but you can find lower prices on quite a lot of stuff at local UK dealers at the moment.
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God's own country
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[quote name='Grand Wazoo' timestamp='1377939356' post='2193745'] Alex usually gets a bad rap because he looks like he has the constant hump and that maybe people are put off by that without getting to know him, before making judgement. [/quote] Alex has always been really friendly and helpful with me - always gives me a smile when I pop in (which is a lot less these days as I no longer work in London). The thing I really like is that he's never tried to really 'sell' to me. He's listened to what I'm looking for and recommended things that he thinks would work for me I think he's only there 2-3 days a week now. Not sure how Martin will replace him when he completes the 'knowledge' if he takes up cabbing full time