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[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1357578574' post='1924787'] was that the one that we had dealings with Barrie..? if so, yes it was a cracker... the newer standard/deluxe Fender jazz basses are superb imo... [/quote] That's the baby - every person i know that played that one loved it!

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1357565230' post='1924495'] Molan , forgive me if someone has mentioned t of this before , but considering you look a bit like Lembit Opik and you like Alembics , do you think there would be much mileage in starting to call yourself Alembic Opik ? Just a thought . [/quote] Brilliant! I've been asked several times if I'm Lembit and even had people shake my hand and say they admired me, lol. I don't currently own an Alembic but you may have prompted me to go out and find one now

I help out part time at a bass dealer and I see all sorts of set ups arriving at the store from both dealers and customers. I tend to play with a lowish action but I see loads of customer basses with actions I find virtually unplayable. In fact something came in recently that had an adjustable height nut and bridge and both were jacked up really high. This was someone's main gigging bass and that's obviously how he likes his set up. I'm not saying that every bass should arrive with a high action but I can see some logic in sending things out that can be easily lowered rather than being cut very low and can't be raised. Obviously the ideal scenario would be for everything to arrive somewhere in the middle and then set up to customer preferences. It's just a shame that too many dealers don't have the time/inclination to bother setting their instruments up properly

Just sounds like a simple case of a lazy dealer who can't be bothered to set their basses up properly. Was it, by any chance, a 'generalist' dealer that focuses much more on guitars than basses? I've played some new Fenders that, when properly set up, have been really nice both in terms of feel and playability and core tone. There was one particular 2010 US Standard Jazz that put a lot of expensive basses to shame.

[quote name='cloudburst' timestamp='1357487019' post='1923278'] I respectfully disagree. In my opinion, Vintage would be a better term for an instrument that you wish to classify based on age alone. As an example, I think most would agree that one of those Ampeg scroll-headed instruments would be a Vintage bass, but not a Classic. CB [/quote] Vintage is anything older than 30 years, antique is 40 I'd definitely say the Ampeg scroll is a classic piece of design. Stuff in a similar bracket are Hofner violins and quite a few Danelectos - I wouldn't particularly want to own or play any of these but they certainly fulfil the classic design brief to me.

Easy - any instrument that's over 20 years old is a classic. Doesn't matter if it's any 'good', has a particularly high value, has been copied, is still in production etc. If it's good enough for The Classic Car Club of America it's good enough for me

Brilliant - I'm going to try that line on someone and see what reaction I get Just sold a massive, and ancient, Marshal cab for £80. Would have loved to stick a £500 price tag on it because it had more wood in the construction!

I've had a few Alembics and I have to say that they really are stunning instruments and nothing feels quite like the high end models. They are very idiosyncratic and there are elements about them that a lot of people find hard to live with. Meanwhile other people love them for these little touches and will never part with theirs. The last one I owned was fabulous and it made me feel a bit 'special' when I grabbed it off the rack in a way that few other basses ever have. In the end I realised I was unlikely to gig with it (those idiosyncrasies at play again!) and I sold it to someone who loves it. They are a lot of money (although nowhere near as much as they list in their web site if you buy through a US dealer) but if they make you feel a way something else doesn't then who's to say they aren't 'value for money'?

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1357164385' post='1918610'] Really? Oh dear. Three on that list really get on my tits! [/quote] Me too - I wonder if its the same three

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1357072363' post='1917229'] It's a tricky one this... There are so many factors to bass playing. Compared to another player, you can be 'better' at timing, but 'worse' at keeping up with chord changes. 'Better' at slap bass, but 'worse' at knowing when slap bass is not appropriate. And so on! [/quote] In pretty much any actual gigging band (apart from an 80's covers band) slap bass is never appropriate

[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1357070341' post='1917175'] All very true, but since when did practicality = cool? ;-) [/quote] I have to agree - after all, I used to own one of these;

[quote name='leroydiamond' timestamp='1357058511' post='1916928'] Never new Markbass made a 2x12 cab . Could well be the best solution. Just wondering will I miss the extra low end I get from the traveler 15? (2x12 goes to 45 Hz whweras the 15 goes to 4o hz) [/quote] It's a while since I've tried the Traveller 1x15 but the NY212 felt like it had more low end punch to me from what I remember. It's also a 4ohm cab so it'll be a good unit as a standalone to get the most out of an amp.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1357050009' post='1916738'] Why? , I have been in similar situations where the rest of the band preffered my simpler style over people who were both more technical and up on their theory etc. [/quote] That's exactly the point I wa trying to make In an 'exam' type situation the other guy would have achieved far, far higher grades. However, in this particular band situation I was the 'better' player for what was required. Goes back to the 'better' can be entirely subjective and technique, for the sale of technique, can, at times, be quite un-musical. For me, a player like Jeff Berlin, kinda sums this up. I can appreciate that he is a technically gifted individual but I find him nearly unlistenable

Not exactly a classic, and to some an abomination, but a quality Fender PJ would allow you to get a decent approximation of both classic P and J sounds from a single bass

If you like your current setup then I think the most obvious solution would be a MarkBass 2x12. I recently tried the NY version at BassGear and was impressed. The 12's had the depth of a 15 (to my ears) and I put this partly down to the physical cab size as the 212 is appreciably bigger than a Traveller 1x15. Didn't seem to lack any punch that get from 10's either. I was quite tempted to replace my 210 with it but the 210 fits perfectly in the tiny boot of my everyday car so I decided to hang to it and maybe look out for a 2nd one to go with it

I injured myself and wasn't able to play in my band for a while. They recruited someone to cover who was a 'better' player than me. More technical, busier, added a slap solo in one song etc. When I recovered the band welcomed me back with open arms and a couple of them said it was good to have me back because I was a 'better' player for them and my ability, timing, technique etc suited them more. The drummer (who is quite technical) in particular said how pleased he was to have me back. In this case 'better', from a technical perspective, meant 'worse'

In one covers band I was in I encountered a singer who couldn't hit a lot of the high notes so we agreed to knock a swathe of songs down by a fair bit. I found a lot of songs 'dropping off the end of the board' so I took a five string to the next rehearsal. It wasn't anything flamboyant, simple overwater J bass in faded Oly white with a tort guard. I was amazed at the negativity I encountered! Started with a comment from a guitarist about the last bass player he worked with that had a 5 string was a complete w***er. Then I was asked, repeatedly, why I couldn't learn to play elsewhere on the fretboard on my 4 string and whether anyone in an audience would actually be able to hear the difference on the low notes if I played on a 4 rather than the 5. Moved on to a claim that they'd be listening carefully to see if I started making mistakes on the 5. Most of this came from a guitarist with an array of guitars and a bank or rack effects that regularly robbed his guitar of any quality tone! Anyway, I ignored it all and just played the 5 from then on. Still got some negative comments now & then but I let it go over my head. Eventually the singer left and we moved a lot of songs back to their original keys, where they sounded better, and I moved back to my favourite old 4.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1356899035' post='1914973'] Ah I see! I quite like the idea of seeing someone playing a Bootsy star bass in a pit [/quote] I had one of those for a while - from a practical point of view you can't play them sitting down, lol

Zon VB is, in my opionion, a far better all round bass than the XL2, especially from an ergonomic perspective (both seated and standing). The XL2 is one of the few rare high end bases I've never fancied owning - and I like headless basses as well! As Kiwi has mentioned, Kubickis are great value at the moment and the ergonomics of these are great

I've played that bass a few times - it's not a photoshop job, in fact the photos don't really do the color justice. It's even nicer in the flesh! Jimmy Coppolo makes amazing basses based on classic vintage Fenders but without the foibles of an old Fender. Big money but used by lots of top US session pros - he sells everything he can make and has a long waiting list for anything new