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Booked my tickets yesterday - looks like a great line-up this year! Clinics from: Victor Wooten Anthony Wellington Darryl Jones Sean Hurley Matt Garrison Nathan Watts Billy Sheehan Mike Inez David Ellefson Alphonso Johnson Divinity Roxx Bootsy Collins Bunny Brunel Alex Al Steve Bailey Gig featuring: Andrew Gouche Alphonso Johnson Quartet Boosty Collins All-Star Band Special Guest Appearances By: Tal Wilkenfeld Nathan East Lee Sklar Verdine White Chris Chaney Bryan Beller Jimmy Earl Reggie Hamilton Mike Merritt Paul S. Denman Oskar Cartaya John Pena John B. Williams Mike Visceglia Looks like a fun weekend

I have to admit that this thread has actually renewed my interest in buying a new Fodera - watch this space for 'incoming' messages

[quote name='Chris2112' post='968922' date='Sep 26 2010, 10:21 PM']To be honest, I think we'd all be so vulgar if we could afford it![/quote] I totally agree. I've always found that the only people who bitch about other people who own beautiful and expensive things are those that simply can't afford them themselves - the ones who shout the loudest are usually the young who don't understand the concept of accumulated wealth, or those who have reached a stage in their lives when they realise they are unlikely ever to be able to afford them. Both groups usually then resort to 'knob' jokes - still, if it keeps them amused then so be it . . .

[quote name='maxrossell' post='968250' date='Sep 26 2010, 11:33 AM']Hey, you know, they're running a business. It all depends on who they want to cater for. When I see someone with a £5,000 watch when a £50 watch will do, with a £200,000 car when a £20,000 car will do, with a £200 handbag when a £20 handbag will do, or with a £12,000 bass when a £1,200 bass will do, I think one thing. And that thing is "bell end".[/quote] You know, I genuinely think this is one of the most ludicrous comments I've ever seen on BC, lol. I'm assuming you have a £5 plastic Watch, drive a Trabant, keep your money in one those fabric and Velcro wallets and play a £50 Chinese made bass - after all, each these will 'do' the job for which they were intended. . . Personally if I met someone with all of those expensive things you listed I'd assume they'd worked bloody hard, been very successful at their careers and were reaping the benefits - and good luck to them, that's what I'd say

[quote name='velvetkevorkian' post='967074' date='Sep 24 2010, 07:43 PM']The NYCs are chambered for weight, aren't they?[/quote] I think a lot of the newer ones are. I read somewhere (maybe TB) that Sadowsky had said it was getting increasingly hard to find high quality woods with a consistently light weight and that's why they use chambers a lot now.

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='966707' date='Sep 24 2010, 02:07 PM']..or pretty any J bass with the Sadowsky electronics in it. Don't get bogged down in the mythical Sadowsky snake oil thing. There is no real secret ingredients in getting the Sadowsky tone - it's pretty much down to the pickups/circuit... it certainly doesn't come from the woods or construction (afterall, it's the same as pretty much every bolt on jazz type bass)[/quote] I must admit that I agree with this in principle - however I did once try a stock Fender USA J with Sadowsky electronics fitted (that's what i was told anyway) and it didn't capture the sound I associate with Sads all that well. It was a pretty heavy beast though and every Sad i've played has been very light so maybe it's those good old natural wood resonance effects making the difference.

[quote name='bubinga5' post='963525' date='Sep 21 2010, 04:48 PM']Most of the time, especially buying from Molan, the basses are set up way better than a shop anyway...[/quote] Forgot to say thanks for the reference BB5 I've kinda kept out of this debate but all I'd say is that, having tried a pretty fair selection of 'super' J basses, if you want the Sadowsky 'sound' then only a Sadowsky will deliver it. Other people come close but, to my insensitive ears, they never quite nail it. I've only ever gigged a Sadowsky once and the sound guy (who also happened to be a bass player) said it was the best bass core tone they'd heard at the venue. I have a couple of NYC's sitting next to me right now, along with a Celinder & an Alleva Coppolo, and when I'm playing at home the Sadowsky J would probably be my least favourite. However, those words from the sound guy are still haunting me. . .

I think I read somewhere that PC has had some health problems, whatever they were it was bad enough that he was unable to play drums live on the tour. I thought he really seemed to have aged and certainly wasn't moving very well. Although I can take or leave a lot of his solo work I still think his touring band with the Pheonix horns & Lee Sklar on bass absolutely killed live I watched the show purely to see Bob Babbit, I was lucky enough to see the full 'Standing in the Shadows' funk brothers band when they played a few years back & Babbit is a bit of a legend. He'll always be a bit in the shadow of Jamerson but a fine player nevertheless.

I really liked Queen Emily, great to see a, mostly, older white band laying down a great funky groove. Really nice tone from the Kubicki / Ampeg set up too

Last time I saw Manring he was just phenomenal. To be honest I find a lot of his stuff difficult to listen to at home but he is an astonishing player to watch. I just checked out Alex B as well - some pretty amazing stuff going on there as well. God knows what it might sound like to hear these two playing together!

I'm not sure that "best bass maker" & "future collectibles" necessarily go together? A hell of a lot of collectible basses are in that position because the original maker is dead / gone bust / gave up making them any more etc. Some of these might actually be very good but others aren't so great in terms of playability, sound & build quality. . .

Always loved this song - real floor filler Went to see Teena Marie not that long ago and they had a great pair of DJ's playing beforehand. One of them played this & the whole room was full of people singing along. There's an instrumental version as well - useful for picking out the bass line:

Currently due to be flying to the Carib that day but not 100% confirmed yet. Would really like to be there if I can

Just my 2 cents but I think it'll be worth less in black - if you decide to refin then make sure it's a 'keeper'

[quote name='Platypus' post='952385' date='Sep 11 2010, 12:18 AM']Barrie, well I tried to tell you that, back in June, when I said "Perhaps the Staccato model would have suited you more.." [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=69137&hl=Staccato&st=222"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...cato&st=222[/url] [/quote] Lol - only problem was that they were a grand back then Much cheaper now - yay

[quote name='tonewheels' post='952252' date='Sep 10 2010, 08:59 PM']And isn't it annoying when having carted either the SVT or the Hammond and Leslie (and sometimes the SVT AND the Hammond) up a fire escape to a gig, the guitarist turns up with some POS tranny amp, because "the Twin Reverb was too heavy". sounds like the Dead. [/quote] I roadied for a guy with a twin reverb for a while - he has a point I've never really been able to fathom the Dead - maybe this is why, lol

[quote name='alexisonfire' post='952186' date='Sep 10 2010, 07:48 PM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ampeg-Bass-Cabinet-PR1832HE-not-Ashdown-EBS-Marshall-/110584228512?pt=UK_ConElec_SpeakersPASystems_RL&hash=item19bf556aa0"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ampeg-Bass-Cabinet-P...=item19bf556aa0[/url] Pretty crazy imo![/quote] Pretty sure one of these came up for sale here on BC at some time in the past. Supposed to sound really cool but very, very heavy, lol.

Couple of additional reasons I know of that have hit Eden prices a little. I think one is that a lot of their cabs are seriously heavy, they started producing the much lighter Nemesis series but some the heads in this range have a nasty rep for randomly failing which has damaged the name a little. I think they have only one Neo cab in their range, a 1x12. Another thing that's a shade unfortunate was when they started making the World Tour series with switchable power options. Great idea because it meant you could use them pretty much anywhere in the world (hence the WT name). However this also meant you could pick one up whilst on holiday in states for way cheaper than UK prices and/or import them for well below UK dealer margins. As soon as some of these started hitting the used market I'm sure it hit some values.

Big Welcome from me, liking those influences a lot, If you can carry a real Hammond around then it comes as no surprise that you also own an SVT & an 8x10 Have you thought about merging your bands - an experimental, psychedelic Americana band sounds like a lot of fun. . .