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If it's brand new then get it back to the retailer for a once over

Have you tried a Gramma pad? My Berg AE210, rear ported, can get boomy but I've found lifting it off the floor and isolating it seems to help quite a lot (especially with suspended wooden stages!).

[quote name='walbassist' timestamp='1462116953' post='3040381'] Thanks for all the replies chaps. Yes, something that's just a power amp is what I'm thinking, so the Demeter is just right, albeit pricey! [/quote] It is a great little unit. I've heard a top pro (you can guess who) testing it back to back with the Aguilar TH5 power stage only and with a Monique as the common pre-amp. The louder we turned it up, and the faster he played, the more you could hear the difference in quality. The Aggie is no slouch but the Demeter had greater note to note definition and a faster attack. To be honest, if it was me playing I'm not sure you'd hear the difference though!

[quote name='barneyg42' timestamp='1465120176' post='3065373'] Really useful replies guys!! 😀😀 [/quote] There's a thermal protection circuit in there to stop it overheating. Sounds to me like you've got the master volume running to high for too long and that's making the whole unit overheat. Pushing the pre gain shouldn't have this result so it's the master you need to watch. There's a fan in there to help I think. Could be this isn't working properly and that's causing overheating as well. If it happens again maybe feel the amp chassis to see if it's running hot.

I think 'social media' killed the offer - I saw it on Facebook and it worked fine but soon after they killed the code so it didn't work any more

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1463143107' post='3048969'] So there's different kinds of relicing? It's OK if it was done at the factory but not OK if done by the player? That's a new one on me! [/quote] A luthier I know had a Fender CS Strat in for repair. It was a heavy relic version and the customer wanted one of the paint surface dings retouched. When the luthier asked why, as the guitar was covered in marks and dings, the response was "yes, but those are from the Fender factory and I did this one myself so I want it fixed". . . True story 😂

Maybe it's like a decibel meter but works on how many notes per minute you play - too many slapped notes and it slaps your wrist, saying 'enough is enough my friend, I'm turning myself off until you calm down a little' 😂

Worked for me

[quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1464908436' post='3063794'] I can now report that the 801 has held its own in the following situations: (1) Acoustic gig with vocals, acoustic guitar and cajon through PA, electric guitar into Blues Junior, uke bass into 801 (volume at 1 o'clock). (2) Big band rehearsal in smallish function room - drums, saxes, clarinets, trumpets, trombones all unamplified, keys into small combo, vocals into small PA, Precision into 801 (volume at 2 o'clock). [/quote] I've gigged one with a drummer, unmiked and two acoustic guitarists, both into amps. It was easily loud enough for me to hear myself onstage and projection into the room was pretty good. I know this because I let another player use both my bass and amp - for which he never bothered to say thanks but that's another story. . . It obviously wasn't a high volume gig but I had the option to DI so thought I'd give it a try and it was fine one its own. I totally agree with comments about bands using more and more power and getting ever louder. We played a recent gig and the landlady offered to rebook is based purely on the sound check. She said we had a really professional sound and when we asked what she really meant by this she told us that she could the words, all the instruments individually and wasn't deafened as soon as we started playing. I think it was the latter that got us the next gig rather than any of the former comments

Too many knobs for me! I like active basses (although get on just fine with passive ones too) but there's just too much going on with an East for my ears. Reminder to self - find that one you have buried away and stick it up for sale

I use a Harvest leather one. Specifically designed for Alembic SS basses but works perfectly with my Ritter. Stunning quality and loads of protection along the neck - party because Alembics have that back angled headstock so they need to be really secure. Big money but I don't think they come any better

[quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1464947267' post='3063965'] Not any kind of dig at all, but this kinda illustrates the gulf in "the rules" we assume about the instrument we all enjoy, its amplification, and the applicability of our experience to anyone else's - I've tried to gig that exact setup in a 'loud rock band' (my quotes for me, obv), and it was fartily, hopelessly inadequate. How any of us'd ever agree about anything more abstract, such as, erm, 'heft' is beyond me… Horses, courses…I think the default answer to the question "Is it just me…?" should really be 'probably' [/quote] Wow, I'm amazed. I checked my amp settings from Wednesday's gig - bass & treble flat, slight boost to low mids, little more boost for high mids (carpeted room) both filters off completely and master volume more or less on half way. I'm always next to one of our guitarists so I've got his Orange Terror & 1x12 to deal with all night and a drum monitor facing the pair of us. I was easily loud enough to hear myself completely clearly and discovered that, although DI'd, there was virtually no bass in the FOH because it was chucking out enough volume into the room without additional support!

Not since last night. . . My 'second' rig is a Markbass LMII with a CMD112H. I've gigged with this loads of times in a loud rock band setting. Easily handles the volume and adjusts to lots of room types without much hassle

[quote name='smaz' timestamp='1464736267' post='3062129'] I've been meaning to pop there for ages after buying a rather nice Harvest leather strap at last years LBGS. Maybe I shall make a visit at long last! [/quote] Just checked and it's 45 mins by car but only 35 mins by train - the store is right next to the station too!

Ok - so I'm biased but BassGear is in Twyford which isn't very far from Hampshire at all and has a big range of amps and two demo rooms

[quote name='bootleg' timestamp='1464647175' post='3061184'] Have the same bass and it is no. 1 gigging bass. One thing, though, I usually mix both pups, but if I favour the bridge it gets quite thin, loses bass and mids and I have to compensate with amp EQ. It is slightly better in passive, but the VTC is a subtle beast, so wondering if I am doing something wrong. [/quote] How do you get on if you boost bass on the instrument pre-amp? I'm sure you already know this but the Sadowsky pre-amps are boost only circuits. If you are generally boosting both treble and bass on the pre then you are effectively cutting mids. Maybe try keeping the bass bosted but pull back a bit on the treble boost with bridge pickup only.

I first saw Bootsy live in '79 with the full Parliafunkadelicment Thang line up - Brides of Funkenstein, Parlet, Horny Horns, Bootsy's Rubber Band, Parliament and Funkadelic. Of course, all of these were more or less the same band but with different singers coming and going and random additional instruments too. At one point I counted 23 people on stage including 2 bassists, 2 drummers, at least 3 guitars, 2 or 3 keys, 4 horns, percussion and a host of vocals. Throughout it all it was Bootsy's playing that held most of my attention. On some songs he was just in charge of the groove and in others he played all the funky fills whilst the 2nd bass held things together. One of the best live shows I've ever seen - so much so that I went back the next night and bought a ticket from a tout outside to get right down the front Last time I saw him he didn't even play bass though. He purely sang lead vocals. Mind you, he had Vic Wooten and Verdine White behind him so he didn't really need to pick up a bass, lol