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[quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1388613836' post='2324133'] I'm not enormously surprised that you turned up and behaved like I'd just molested your gran because you've always made a great show of how expensive your gear is and you're often plugging your boutique gear retail operation. Even to the point of defending that monstrosity that Jimmy Coppolo managed to sell to some mug for a small fortune. So that's fine, you've got your angle and I'm well aware of it. You've got Foderas to sell after all, and so anyone who challenges the need for a guitar that costs more than most peoples' cars must be opposed. My point was that the sound people are usually going for with flats is a sound that came out of simple tech and the quality of cheap gear these days is good enough to get that sound. You also went on to say that you put flats on one of your basses that cost more than most peoples' cars and it made a sound like angels having an orgy. I'll have to give you the benefit of the doubt because you didn't back it up with a recording. Anyway, thanks for your input. [/quote] Yay, I knew you'd have to take a personal pop eventually, now that is genuinely funny. I was pretty certain you were trying to set up another 'let's have a go at people with expensive basses' thread but good to see you've at least brought it out into the open. The thing that genuinely surprises me every time you start one of these threads is that you always say you're so happy with a£200 Korean Squier. If that's so why do you feel the need to keep taking a pop at people who feel like spending more than £200 on an instrument - I just don't get where this animosity & bile comes from. PS - I don't have any Foderas for sale and the latest line at the shop where I help out (entirely for free) is the far eastern one from Bass Collection. Not very 'boutique' at all but quite fun to play Also, if you've managed to molest either of my grans than I'm impressed with your level of necrophilia, both have been dead for more than 30 years so you'd have to go to a lot of effort to dig them up. . .

[quote name='skej21' timestamp='1388612501' post='2324111'] Nobody has said it but the title hints that it's a negative thing to put flats on an expensive bass, presumably due to your 'great leveller' theory and how fitting them will somehow make the expensive bass sound like a £200 bass with the same strings. [/quote] You may well be right - I'm off to fit some super bright steels on all my basses right now

[quote name='skej21' timestamp='1388608080' post='2324023'] BIG plus 1! Also, does it really matter how great/sh!te flats sound on someone else's expensive bass? I like the sound of flats on my bass and that's all that matters. I'd never tell Molan/anyone that flats shouldn't be on his bass or suggest its a waste of his time, it's just pathetic (and mostly not based on any actual firsthand experience!) [/quote] To be fair I don't think anyone has said I shouldn't fit flats to an expensive bass. I think the core 'thrust' of this thread is the old favourite 'spending any more than £200 on a bass is a waste of money because my bass sounds perfect and that's all I spent'. It comes up again and again, often with a slightly different slant, but that's generally the gist of it. . .

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1388610528' post='2324071'] I have to own up to that one molan. I thought you might like it. I just couldn't resist. [/quote] And there was me trying to keep it anonymous Still making me chuckle though. . .

[quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1388605517' post='2323983'] You're right, it seems Molan thinks it's hilarious. I sometimes wish I was so easily amused. [/quote] Although I hadn't found that much to smile about I did spot a comment in another thread that did make me smile "Just put Flats on it then it will sound the same as an exotic boutique bass with Flats costing many thousands of pounds. P.S. That sounds like it should be in Viz 'Handy Hints' now i come to think of it. Changes voice to very posh and serious....... "hey! Johnny Bass Player! Fed up that you can't afford a very expensive boutique bass guitar with quilted maple top? Then you need Wizzo Flatwound Strings. They will make your 1965 Top Twenty bass guitar that your Granny bought you for Christmas in 1965 sound just like a £5,000 custom bass guitar"

Someone bought a bass in to the shop I help out at for a set up. It had a neck like a banana and fret ends that, quite literally, could shred the tips of your fingers. Th neck was fastened to the body with massive flat head rusted wood screws. The killer thing though was that the fret markers ran 3 / 5 / 7 / 9 / 11 / 13. . .

[quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1388605517' post='2323983'] You're right, it seems Molan thinks it's hilarious. I sometimes wish I was so easily amused. [/quote] Why do I find it hilarious? I don't think there's anything particularly funny about it at all - maybe I'm missing the really humorous stuff somewhere. I guess the only thing that is most obviously funny could be that someone thinks flatwound strings are some kind of magical leveller that make all instruments sound identical. I guess most people would have a quiet chuckle at that

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1388526675' post='2323182'] Wish someone would pay me not to play, . [/quote] I played a wedding at one of the inns of court once for a very senior high court judge. As usual it ran late and we came on about an hour after we were supposed to start. First half went well with lots of dancing. The judge came over and explained they had booked a DJ and it was one of his nephews that was doing his first wedding. He asked us if we'd be prepared not to go back on and, if so, he'd pay us the full fee (about £2K) plus a bonus in cash and all we could drink! He even arranged to open a back door so we could pack up quickly and told us to take away a crate or two of beer for the journey home

[quote name='spongebob' timestamp='1388573678' post='2323460'] [size=4]Heard on the radio this morning that they film it in August. I know it's far from live, but quite amazed - but not [/size]surprised[size=4] -at that if it's true![/size] [/quote] It is pre-filmed but not in August, lol. Rehearsals didn't start until 9th December!

[quote name='booboo' timestamp='1388539939' post='2323329'] Avoided. Did Jules manage to display his 'versatility' by playing his same tired boogie-woogie style in a sh*t cover version with all his guests? [/quote] No

[quote name='Bassman Sam' timestamp='1388540048' post='2323331'] It would be like wearing beer goggles on a night out. It might be fun at the time but I couldn't look at it in the morning and hope it left in a taxi before I woke up. [/quote] You have to see, feel & play one in the flesh to really appreciate them. I thought pretty much the same as you until I actually got to try one. Just a fabulous bass and really inspiring to play - you'd wake up the next morning wanting to go all over again (unlike your average beer googles lass, lol).

[quote name='4 Strings' timestamp='1388539171' post='2323321'] Dave S's fabulously ugly and inappropriate bass has almost ruined my 2014 already - may all my problems be this big! [/quote] Everyone should be made to play one of these at some point in their playing career - absolutely sublime experience

[quote name='Thor' timestamp='1388538184' post='2323305'] Now that's a proper front man [/quote] I saw him live with The Gap Band many years ago - killer show. He was beating women away with a stick, lol

Outstanding - Girl you knock me out Excited - Makes me wanna shout. . . Go Charlie, Go Charlie!

[quote name='wmsheep' timestamp='1388533435' post='2323243'] Yup. the Haim bassface is there!!! [/quote] If I had a pair of Ampeg valve heads powering 16 x 10" speakers right behind me I think I'd be pulling a few faces too

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1388535504' post='2323264'] Mel C was a bit good IMO. That Fodera is sounding nice and punchy; shock, horror, the BBC mix bass so you can hear it! [/quote] Obviously if it was strung with flats it would sound like a £100 Squier P bass because all basses with flats on sound identical, oh, wait a second. . .

[quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1388536141' post='2323269'] Bit of a guilty pleasure was Rudimental, enjoyed both their numbers! Haim and Mel C too. Mumford and Sons not so......!!! [/quote] My daughter got me into Rudimental - Waiting All Night is a great song (even though I'm about 40 years too old for it really!).

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1388533224' post='2323241'] I see Mr Swift is using a singlecut Fodera. EDIT: Beaten to the punch, doh! [/quote] That's an Anthony Jackson Presentation - I've played it and it's simply stunning Loving Charlie Wilson - one of my favourite soul singers

[quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1388440943' post='2322117'] Examples? [/quote] I have flats on a £6.5K Ritter Cora at the moment. I can assure you it sounds absolutely nothing like a cheap P bass. The closest direct comparison I currently have is a Lull P that has flats on. Both have TI flats and sound very, very different to each other. The Lull works particularly well with flats and responds to even small adjustments in the simple passive tone control. The full active circuit on the Ritter gives loads of different tonal options and sounds completely different to my other Ritter that's string with rounds. If anything I can often get even great tonal variation with flats than with rounds on the Ritters. Flats seem to respond really well to the active pre-amp on these. I don't have anything cheaper than the Lull to compare with at the moment. Maybe on really low cost basses it's harder to hear the differences between string types and brands

[quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1388437593' post='2322060'] No I totally get why people use flats, I've got one bass I keep strung with flats for when I want that sound, it's just it's a pretty primitive sort of sound isn't it, so you don't need an expensive bass to get it. [/quote] I couldn't disagree more Flats can sound amazing on a, supposedly, hi-fi bass and a million miles away from how they sound on a basic P bass Plenty of other people here seem to agree with this and have been using them on expensive active instruments with great success

Maybe the lack of younger people is because parts of the site (like all the results published on this page) aren't visible on the mobile devices they use all the time? Sorry to keep harping on but BC is the only site is use regularly that has so many issues when accessing via iPad

At the moment it's my, relatively, plain simple Ritter Cora. It's not the most expensive, or flashy, one I have and it doesn't have the 'mojo' of my '63J. However it's just a great all round gigging bass. Weighs very little, is a dream to play and the alder/maple combination sounds just right to me

I bet they aren't giving their punters 90 days to pay for stuff on the night. Sounds like heap profiteering to me. I know of some massive companies pushing for 90 day terms but not hotels. I'd definitely be a bit wary given the rate at which hotels come and go