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adriansmith247 replied to adriansmith247's topic in EUBs & Double Basses For Sale
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adriansmith247 replied to adriansmith247's topic in EUB and Double Bass
Agreed. Many sound engineers don't understand double bass at all. They want to pump up the volume and the bass end, or they add HF to cut through the mix. On the odd occasion I get to play through a large sound system, I always send a signal with an HPF set quite high to take out all the low end. (Fishman pre) There was one time I didn't do that and had so much sub bass I may as well have been playing D'n'B ! -
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adriansmith247 replied to adriansmith247's topic in EUB and Double Bass
That is a very good point. When I hear someone playing my bass I am usually impressed by the sound. -
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adriansmith247 replied to adriansmith247's topic in EUB and Double Bass
Same here. I hate playing loud. I sometimes even need to wear earplugs. Crazy much better to play electric or EUB in those situations, but the jazz bands I play with would have a fit if I turned up with an electric 🙂 They definitely want the look and 'sound' of a db -
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adriansmith247 replied to adriansmith247's topic in EUB and Double Bass
This link seems to be describing my experience exactly. I travel home from too many gigs just thinking about new pickups, new bass, new strings, IEMs, when really all I want to do is ditch the amp and play acoustically. I can report that although my new amp stand is an improvement in being able to hear myself, in an ironic twist I can now hear my pickup really well, and can hear that is actually sounds a bit crappy. When I had the amp on the floor facing upwards I was probably hearing a more indirect sound blended with the room. Not ideal but at least I wasn't hearing my pickup sound clearly. When I play quietly I can get a great sound, but the higher the volume, the worse the sound. The Shadow sounds worse than the Rev Solo, but they both sound a bit plasticky/fake. Am I missing something or is this pickup described in the link, just a magnetic pickup with a blender for your existing piezo? I have tried blending a piezo with a realist before, I found it to be bit too much faff for not a lot of improvement. However I have never contemplated a magnetic pickup as I assume it would just sound too much like an EUB. I would like to try it though -
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adriansmith247 replied to adriansmith247's topic in EUB and Double Bass
Here is my DIY solution. A bit of chipboard attached to a folding stool easy to carry keep in the car cheap perfect height fits my EA whizzy 10 or 12 very robust and stable -
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adriansmith247 replied to adriansmith247's topic in EUB and Double Bass
I use a HPF all the time as I have one on each amp (Acoustic Image / EA). It is certainly an eye opener when you go without an HPF as you can see the driver moving a lot. I am sure the cabs would blow without one. However, I am not sure about how much they clean up the sound. To me they are a functional necessity. The thing is I mainly play jazz in small venues so I am looking at a subtle stand for use with a 10 cab or maybe 12 cab. The less I have to carry the better. Having considered the advice here I have started to use a folding bar stool for my 10 cab with some success and have purchased a keyboard stand for my 12 cab, thanks to TheRev. Ultimately I think I will go down the short stand route as demonstrated by Bassace as this looks to be the best fit for most of my gigs. Unfortunately there seems to be a worldwide shortage of these short stands atm, and I don't fancy paying all the taxes to get one from the USA https://gollihurmusic.com/compact-amplifier-stand-tripod-pole-mount/ I am also going to ditch my Rev Solo pickup, even though it sounds great. I am going to try the Shadow pu again, despite not liking the sound too much to be honest. I wish my bass liked the Realist but it doesn't. Maybe I need a new bass. Mmmmm...... -
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adriansmith247 replied to adriansmith247's topic in EUB and Double Bass
I loved the sound from the realist but could not deal with the volume difference between strings. Bit gutted. It may be unlucky or something to do with the bass setup -
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adriansmith247 replied to adriansmith247's topic in EUB and Double Bass
The band sounds great and I love your setup. I am now thinking of going down this route, at least getting the cab up to waist height. I tend to play smaller venues and never with PA support. Also, unrelated, have a very strict 2 journeys from the car policy so small cabs are a must. An amp stand may push that but worth a go. -
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adriansmith247 replied to adriansmith247's topic in EUB and Double Bass
That looks like a great solution, and I have a whizzy 10. -
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adriansmith247 replied to adriansmith247's topic in EUB and Double Bass
Sounds like my experience. The solo Sounds great in low volume situations but gets lost when loud. Unfortunately I tried the realist but was getting crazy volume difference between strings with the E string really quiet and the G really booming. I may try going back to my trusty shadow pickup despite the sound -
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adriansmith247 replied to adriansmith247's topic in EUB and Double Bass
Good points and I agree. It can be very frustrating sometimes. So I may look into IEM just to send a bit of me to my ears. Once it gets to that point the band is often so loud I would hear them anyway @basstone in most gigs I play, my amp is what the audience hears so there is a compromise there too. I read about players who never use an amp as they just send a signal to the PA and get a monitor mix. Would love that I have tried a small floor monitor but it was too much hassle and messed with the sound for some reason. Something to do with phase between the monitor and my main cab. One thing I have done is take an old gk combo and place it somewhere else in stage facing out to the audience. This works well for the audience for sure -
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adriansmith247 replied to adriansmith247's topic in EUB and Double Bass
thanks. The IEM sound like a great idea actually. I assume you would take a feed from the amp or would you go to a preamp first then slit to the amp and IEM? I have looked into stands before but wouldn’t that just get the amp to waist height? To use a PA stand I think I would need a top hat fitting on the cab. Maybe I could get a small cab just for the kids and hf. Nice ideas thanks