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[quote name='risingson' timestamp='1375198328' post='2158010'] The personnel listings on the Grease soundtrack are sketchy at best, to the best of my knowledge I've not seen individual track by track credits so you could well be right. I'd have it down as David Hungate as well. [/quote] I think it's David Hungate and not Max Bennet because the bass tone is so very different to that which Bennett usually has . It sounds very much like a Precision with roundwounds played with a pick , which was indeed Hungate's signature sound on the L.A studio work he did around this time . Max Bennett ,on the other hand , had a very clunky flatwounds with loads of treble on kind of a sound . It's possible that the track was recorded more than once , with Bennett playing on one version and Hungate on a different take that may indeed have ended up being the one eventually selected for the album .

[quote name='Funky Dunky' timestamp='1375139798' post='2157301'] I would nominate David Hungate's brilliant line in 'You're the one that I want" and Neil Jason's stonking playing on "Fame" as contenders. [/quote] On a pedantic note , I also thought that David Hungate ( great player) played the bassline on "You're The One That I Want " , but after mentioning it on the forum I was duly informed by several members that it was in fact Max Bennett . If you have evidence to the contrary then please let it be known , because that would mean that I might have been right after all . It sounds a lot more like David Hungate than Max Bennett to me .

I had a 44-02 a few years ago and it was a superb - sounding bass . These basses have got so many great sounds lurking in that pickup configuration that there really isn't much you can't do with them . As well as all the Fender and Musicman - inspired tones there are some fairly unique sounds in there too . I particulaly like the sound of the neck pickup combined with the front coil ( nearest to the neck) of the MM pickup . Chunky sounding with plenty of bottom end , but clear , articulate and defined at the same time . Enjoy it .

[quote name='Huw Foster' timestamp='1374060933' post='2144784'] Another one from Under The Bridge with The White Keys. Somebody Else's Guy: [media]http://vimeo.com/70452292[/media] [/quote] [quote name='Huw Foster' timestamp='1374666355' post='2151479'] Another one with The White Keys from our Under The Bridge gig. A personal favourite of mine. [media]http://vimeo.com/70902387[/media] [/quote] As with all your videos , Huw , your playing is a different class , and this band sound like proper professionals . Top quality all-round .

[quote name='leroydiamond' timestamp='1375023792' post='2155865'] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]Took my recently purchased [/font][/color][color=#FF0000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,][b]fender[/b][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,] CS custom [/font][/color][color=#FF0000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,][b]classic[/b][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,] and my [/font][/color][color=#FF0000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,][b]Sadowsky NYC[/b][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,] JJ which I have been using regularly for the last 3 years out on a gig last night. There is nothing to choose between the build and finish of both bases--the highest quality!. The fretwork on both is fantastic, really tight neck pockets also. Both have maple boards. [/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]Took the custom [/font][/color][color=#FF0000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,][b]classic[/b][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,] out first. Very comfortable to play, with the action set insanely low and not a hint of fret buzz. The 9.5 inch radius is quite different from the[/font][/color][color=#FF0000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,][b]sadowsky[/b][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,] but I felt really at home with it. The Eq on the bass was set flat for the most part and this produced a really nice slap sound, with the mids dipped on my Markbass f500. However when I favoured the bridge pickup, I felt the sound lacked bite and was lost in the mix, though favouring the neck pickup produced solid lows though a little muddy.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]I then pulled out the [/font][/color][color=#FF0000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,][b]sadowsky[/b][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,] and immediately dialled in the sweet spot as I know the instrument very well and it immediately sang to me. Real bite in the tone, just honky. I love this bass. However after the gig to my surprise the guys in the band just loved what they heard from the custom [/font][/color][color=#FF0000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,][b]classic[/b][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,] and preferred it over the [/font][/color][color=#FF0000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,][b]sadowsky[/b][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]![/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]Obviously I know the [/font][/color][color=#FF0000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,][b]sadowsky[/b][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,] very well so my plan is to stick with the custom [/font][/color][color=#FF0000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,][b]classic[/b][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,] for several gigs in order to become more familiar with the preamp and dial in my desired sound. Its a beautiful instrument for sure. Just very interesting that me and the guys disagreed regarding the tone, as this is a first.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]Pictures below (the fender is Trans black)[/font][/color] [/quote] That's a very nice pair you've got there , and trust me when I tell you that I know a nice pair when I see them .

These are fabulous basses with a sound that will knock walls down . Looks great . too . Enjoy it .

All these bass magazines are having major difficulty competing with the wealth of information and entertainment out there on the internet . I think that well- produced video magazines are inevitably the way of the future . If you look at how amateur videos on You Tube can equal and often better the output from professional television productions , I bet a video bass magazine made by a forum like Basschat or Talkbass could easily rival any of the existing publications , both in terms of style and content . . If we could manage it without falling out . Which we couldn't .

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1375014391' post='2155721'] I have world class eczema if that counts, although it's generally well managed with steroids. Questions are always along the lines of 'why do you wear gloves?' 'don't the gloves impede your playing?' etc. First answer is I like the way they turn me into Audrey Hepburn. Second answer is did I sound like they impeded my playing? and they actually feel like a second skin and I like how smooth the bass sounds and feels with them on. [/quote] Back when I first started playing someone told me that Geezer Butler got his sound by wearing rubber gloves to record with . In retrospect , I seriously doubt that was true ! I have never tried it , but I don't think I could play bass with silk gloves on . I don't see how you can get a proper sense of touch , especially with the plucking hand , but it obviously works for you , so fair enough . Just changing from rough stainless steel strings to smoother - feeling nickel threw me off badly enough . I saw Etienne Mbappe playing with John McGlaughlin and he wears silk gloves , too , and he is no slouch on the bass , so you are in good company .

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1374948876' post='2155176'] Wear silk gloves. I never have that problem of sticky sweaty necks now. And the massive bonus is the gloves make you look like a right slag and people notice the bass and ask you questions after [/quote] What kind of questions do they ask you ? Are they along the lines of " Do you have a skin disease ? "

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1374944047' post='2155106'] I was surprised how the F and Fodera sounded great in the higher registers, but were bland/almost inaudible in the meat and potatoes area, whereas the likes of the P, J, 'Ray, Ricky were all pretty consistent across the range. Nice clip, thanks for posting. [/quote] I agree entirely with that observation . This and a lot of other well-recorded You Tube clips reinforce my conviction that a lot of more modern hi- fi , hi -tech boutique basses sound too polite and too slick for my tastes nowadays . The more vintage-style fretted basses with a bit of grunt , grunge and clank sound far better to my ears . I love some of those upright-sounding fretless basses , too . I could have [u][i]a lot [/i][/u]of fun playing one of those .

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1374943494' post='2155098'] Funny how he still sounds like him though, maybe it is all in the fingers after all? [/quote] I think it's because good players can make a decent instrument "speak" in a way that lesser players never can , regardless of what equipment they are using .

This clip has made me unhappy with both my own equipment and my own playing , so thanks for that , Pete !

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1374939510' post='2155024'] I am not too hot at getting the 'story' with songs, is there any chance that it is tongue in cheek or from the perspective of a Brummy bigot but not the one singing? ( I say singing......) [/quote] I suppose that might be possible , in the same way that it might be possible that singer is actually a gifted Jazz vocalist who is in fact using atonality and advance chromatic harmony to produce that memorable performance, which to the uninitiated and musically uneducated sounds like talentless , tuneless and painfully out -of- tune shouting .

Of all the strings I have ever used , DR's sound the best when they get old . And the now discontinued Dean Markley Alchemy Randy Jackson Signature strings also sounded great when they got old , too , but you can't get them anymore , and they were expensive anyway .

Well , you've hit on the big dilemma in neck finishes here , Rog. A lot of manufacturers have abandoned the once universal laquer finish on bass necks in favour of oil and wax finishes that feel like sanded wood , but the stability of the neck can , in certain cases , be compromised as a result . Also , laquer finishes are easier to keep clean and require less maintainance than oil /wax finished ones . In a hot environment , keeping a nice clean and dry towel handy to rub your sweaty hands and other sweaty bits on in between songs can help a little.

There's a big niche market for a band like this . They have hit on the novel idea of making music for people who are both stupid and deaf , and probably quite unpleasant too . There are plenty of such folks out there .

I'm [u][i]very f[/i][/u]ussy about my setups , as , I suspect , are many other folks on here . That is why I have learnt to do my own through years of trial and error and learning how to do things the best way . I have had setups done by techs who were the very best in the business , and even though they did a good job , the results didn't suit me as well as my own adjustments . By setup I mean the basic adjustment of a perfectly - functioning bass , though ; things like fret dressing and nut work comes under the category of repair rather than setup , in my book .

[quote name='Nibody' timestamp='1374859537' post='2154211'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r0n9Dv6XnY[/media] No Comment... [/quote] The comment I would like to make is " you bastard , now I have got that annoying cheesy hook in my head from now until who -knows -when !"

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1374862435' post='2154263'] ......and if more proof was needed [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTGjbKc-YOQ[/media] [/quote] One way of telling them apart would be seeing how much gusto each put into tucking into a bacon sandwich . I expect Danny Baker could make a typical bacon roll dissappear quicker than the human eye could properly register . Demis , on the other hand , probably favours a more leisurely scoff , harking back to his laid-back kaftan-wearing days .

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1374853445' post='2154112'] I'm slightly trouble now by the Deptford reference as the more i look at that video i see Danny Baker thinly disguised through all that hair and kaftan. [/quote] Now you mention it , it's not a huge leap of the imagination , is it ?

[quote name='BILL POSTERS' timestamp='1374853792' post='2154118'] But I was playing Bass in the 70s, and changed my strings more often than nowadays. I'm sure they didnt zing clang or klank anywhere near as much as they do now. Also, financially I was far better off when Harold was PM than I am now. No I'm not trying to get politics into the thread, I was better off in the Thatcher years as well. I just think theres a lot of cobblers talked about the so called Dark days of the 70s thats all. [/quote] I am in fact trying ( and obviously failing ) to make a humorous point not entirely based on fact - I remember eating new potatoes as well as chips during the 1970's , for example - but I think statistically , the material standard of living has improved considerably for most people in Britain since the 70's . For what it's worth , though , I don't think the 1970's were the dark days some people try and portray them as , either . Broadly speaking ,it was a time when this country and its' people still placed some value the common , collective good of society as a whole rather than just on their own individual gain .

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1374854479' post='2154130'] It's really a really good cd. I'm just playing 'Truth Be Told' by Mark Egan with Bill Evans, Vinnie Colaiuta & Mitch Foreman which is also very nice. I've been a fan of Mark Egan since i saw him in 1978 with Pat Metheny and have been lucky to have seen him with Elements and also Gil Evans. One of my favourite bass players. [/quote] I've got his "Bass Workout " video and it's one of my favourites . I remember seeing him in an interview in Guitar Player Magazine back in the early '80's and he sounded really interesting , talking about his Pedulla basses ect , but I didn't actually get to hear him until he played on Duran Duran solo project Arcadia ( !) in about 1985 , and even on that he sounded wickedly good . I am currently on the lookout for a good fretless bass and one of my criteria is that it has to make me sound like Mark Egan . It might be a long wait ...

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1374841925' post='2153923'] Right this minute........ [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOtHqLbtaKA[/media] [/quote] This is really interesting . I hadn't heard of this band before . I'm a big fan of Mark Egan's playing , and this trio sounds really fresh . I like the angular sound and the way the guitarist seems to be channelling a bit of Mahavishnu - era John McLaughlin in places . I will have to investigate further .

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1374852084' post='2154098'] Only beef dripping will do. None of your hydrogenated vegetable oils for me thanks. [/quote] Beef dripping in the North , ( better midrange ) good old fashioned lard in the South ( slightly more sparkly treble , sounds good on a Stingray ) .