MiltyG565

hey, i covered a song earlier, and also talked a bit. there's also a secret special song that i play, just a little (poorly played) part, and you guys have to guess that song. GREAT! So here it is Enjoy [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeummJUcVoI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeummJUcVoI[/url]

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1354755049' post='1890154'] Seriously? That's a very ironic post. [/quote] Em... why? Aye, i was just being a bit angsty, no real malice behind it. but it must be a real kick in the nads to see that you album is being sold in asda for 37p with "Whoops" written all over it. the price alone would kind of put me off.

GET BACK! BACK, I SAY! Nah, just joking there. welcome to the forum!

[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1354749471' post='1890094'] But don't tell people how much you paid. If you want £80,say you want £80...don't say 'I paid £80 and want to get that back'.That's a sure way to get a lowball offer. [/quote] I didn't, i asked for £120, because the extra £50 was parts only, and didn't include any actual work done at all, so i thought £120 was quite conservative and realistic given what the bass was.

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1354740331' post='1889952'] [/quote] My sister works for Asda, and she said "Whoops" means they have ordered too many and they can't sell them, or aren't selling fast enough. Still, even at 37p, i wouldn't buy it, unless it was a joke. songs for ME nan? songs for [b][i]ME[/i][/b] nan? the poor chap can't even proofread the 4 words on his album cover, what are the chances he can sing? maybe he sings them all in a broad northern English accent? in which case, it would be a joke

I think why people get offended is because of their personal attachment to the item in question. To them, a low offer is basically saying "No way is it worth that, do you know anything?" whereas in the mind of the "lowballed" it would be a bit more like "I like that, but i want to spend as little as possible on it, maybe i should ask if he will take £XXX and we can go from there". Any auction you have ever been to, do they start the auction at anywhere near the market value of the item? no, they start it at hundreds, or even thousands below the market value in some cases. you have the benefit that if somebody makes a low offer, you can say no, or demand more, but if that was an auction, you can bet that somebody would be walking away with a very good deal on your beloved possession.

[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1354733767' post='1889825'] I once sold an inexpensive bass that needed a 'simple' fix (electronics),but I don't know what the hell I'm doing with all that stuff so I sold it cheaper and stated that it needed looking at. The guy that bought it was happy with that. It's not about not being bothered,it's more about me not knowing what I'm doing in that regard. As far as haggling on the price goes,I don't see a problem. If I think the price is good to start with,I may buy it outright,otherwise I will always try to strike a deal-especially if the item has been for sale for a while.I do it in music shops too. The thing that annoys me is when someone states in an ad how much they paid for it and they want to get that back. That is a sure way for me to offer a lower price. [/quote] What is wrong with that? I bought a bass for £80, did £50 worth of work and upgrades to it, and just wanted to get my £80 back out of it. I think getting your money back out of an item is the least you should hope for.

[quote name='Wooks79' timestamp='1354733418' post='1889818'] I think that's cos people look to negotiate rather than just outright pay their top price, I mean if someone's offer was low but not far off the mark, tell them what you want, as they might want the item and rather not lose it for just and extra £x amount. Being asked 'what's your best offer' puts me off to be honest, as I wouldn't really ask them 'what's the cheapest you will sell'. If I want to offer on something, even if its a low offer, I tend to offer based on what I can afford, rather than tell someone their item is only worth £x. I guess this is where everyone differs, and at the end of it all, nobody is forced to buy or sell, so hold out for someone your happy to do a deal with [/quote] I have asked a seller for their best price before, and if it anywhere near matches my offer (say £10 either way, or maybe more on more expensive items) i would pay it. If somebody asks for my best offer, i will offer them an amount but reserve a little bit (again, maybe £10) and if they say no, i would put the extra £10 onto it, everything after that would be a real question in my mind, as i like to have a fair idea of how much i want to pay for something. If i am selling, and somebody says it's too much for them, i'll simply say "Make me an offer", and again, if it's a figure that pleases me, i will take it. If it is a low ball, i will reject. I never do a deal that i'm not happy with unless it is 100% necessary. But then again, i have kind of renounced any form of buying and selling for the sake of making money. I have decided money is not something which i entirely desire beyond what i need to live and get the things that i want. I like things, not money. Money is corruption.

Also, i can remember a couple of years ago, i had a peugeot 106, which i had bought of my cousin's boyfriend for the quite modest amount of £500. The car was in pretty good nick, with no paintwork or bodywork damage, tax and MOT, good tyres. It had a fair few miles on it, but was running well, and had been well kept. So to me, £500 was alright. Anyway, insurance for me would have run into £3000 at the time (because i was 17, and obviously being 17 means you are loaded). So i decided to sell it (and buy my first bass ). So i stuck it in the "Ad's For Free" for a profitable £950. Now, i know that seems like a bit of a piss take, being nearly double what i paid, but i genuinely did get a good deal on my part to start with, and i wasn't expecting that there would be many people who would come in and pay that, i had thought of a price i would like, then put in some extra for "Dealing room", so in a way, i was making sure i was going to get a price i was happy with. I got a phone call on the morning the paper was out, and a man came and dealt me down to £700, which was a bit lower than what i wanted, but he was intending to sell it on after me, so i accepted. I was never annoyed at his starting offer, which was £550. I still would have made a profit at that. But obviously, i want as much as possible, he wants the car for as little as possible. So i dealt him up to £700. we both got what we wanted, so we were both happy.

I had a discussion with a local bass player about the value of his Squier vintage modified jazz bass with Seymour Duncan pickups. I estimated the rather generous sum of £180-£200, which i thought was pretty fair, considering you can get second hand fenders for slightly more. He seemed to be a bit peeved with that and insisted that it was worth at least £260. They are £260 new. I don't know what his experience would be of buying and selling second hand, but i doubt it is very little. as we all know, as soon as you buy something, you will not get that money back out of it, at least not for a long time, on the second hand market. I doubt his bass would ever have been worth more than £260, unless for some reason they became inexplicably sought after, but i doubt that happening, because they are still available to buy new! Also i should add that the gent had made no modifications to it. He had taken great care of it, but that doesn't add value.

[quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1354668952' post='1889063'] Hey Milty. Try this - it's fun! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppR6LcGnkUY[/media] [/quote] Cheers for the suggestion Paul, it does sound like a bundle of fun that riff, but again, looking to play something that is more recognisable to the public rather than just really good for bass. I also cannot for the life of me figure out how i would even begin to play a fill in the riff. IT'S SO FAST!

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1354659614' post='1888941'] Suggestions, Milty..? OK, here's another... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltyjNjsz8UU&list=UL[/media] ...from one of the greatest bass players (imho, of course...). The whole album has great stuff on it, but this intro is tops (drumming, too...). Enjoy. (Dark Star..? Didn't appreciate it..? Blehh..? A bit 'special' perhaps, but top-notch bass playing, just the same...) [/quote] Cheers for the suggestion, but i'm trying to go more along the route of classics and popular songs. I might still include it though. I'm not just looking for songs that are heavy on the bass.

It isn't a cover, but it is a video of me [i]talking [/i]about covers. It's funny too, i'm told [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7uVIHZlNuw&feature=g-upl"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7uVIHZlNuw&feature=g-upl[/url]

Jingle goebells, rudolph the nazi nosed reindeer. Don't know why i decided to link some lovely songs to as political party like that. If i believed in hell, i would most certainly be going there.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1354633874' post='1888428'] Hey Paul, Welcome into the fold! As others have said, there's a wealth of info on this site, and a lot of [b]unfo[/b] in [i]my[/i] posts. Sounds like you're enthusiastic enough to master both, but just make sure that you practise each and every day rather than for hours and hours once in a while. Fifteen minutes per instrument will get you somewhere, but I'd prefer half an hour. Don't teach yourself bad technique. Evening out bad technique takes a lot more time than learning it well right away. Rather invest in getting lessons - even if just for half a year - so you get a good start. Anyway, enjoy the site! best, bert [/quote] Yeah, don't fall into the pit of bad technique, but don't let anybody tell you that you have to have your bass on your chest to play it. play where it feels natural. Also, look up hand a joint warm up exercises. The sooner you learn those, the better, because as a musician, you put yourself at a higher risk of getting things like repetitive strain injury, or carpel tunnel syndrome, but with the correct warm ups, you can prevent those, and also increase your playing ability.

[quote name='The Admiral' timestamp='1354625190' post='1888241'] And I thought it was guitarists and singers that were always the flaky ones in the band! Joking aside, and hugely OT, but I know a guy who has really bad psoriosis and had had remarkble results with Chinese medicines. You may be well under control - but I thought it worth a mention. [/quote] Chinese medicine just seems to work. Think about it, after 2000 years, if it didn't work, it wouldn't have been taken all around the world. The ancient Chinese was a great civilisation. shame they just take their food around the world now. (joking... i wouldn't mind a big Chinese feast right now)

[quote name='Spike Vincent' timestamp='1354623408' post='1888177'] It is very scenic,although it's full of water at the moment.. [/quote] Oh right... i forgot about that...

oh aye, this is going on. forgot about it. TO THE RECORDING STUDIO! *turns around to desk with amp and interface on it*

rage against the machine 20th anniversary debut album... Don't know how it's different from the actual debut album. anybody got any answers for me?

[quote name='The Hat' timestamp='1354614923' post='1887966'] Thanks for the advice. Can I learn both together or am I best concentrating on one ? Found that Bootys video a few days ago, he da man ! [/quote] Both, one, it really makes no difference. So long as you are finding time to practice both for a decent amount each week. I started off just on bass, but i'm learning guitar and still doing bass lessons it hasn't really hindered my bass lessons, although the familiarity of a stringed instrument really helped the switch from bass to guitar. In a year or 2, you will be playing to a good standard on both.

ALREEEET!? from norn iron! You won't regret learning Bass. Guitar is great in it's own way, but bass is just as complex, and just as intricate. Funk is great for groove. a lot of bassists here are all about the groove, including me. In simplest terms, a funk groove would place the accented notes on the bass kicks of the drums. And funk normally means you play the accented note on the first beat of the bar. I'm sure as a beginner, that is A LOT to get your head around, so here is a video, by none other than bootsy collins, the master of funk really, so you can hear it rather than read it [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHE6hZU72A4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHE6hZU72A4[/url] Just count out the beats when he isn't, you will see what i mean also, plenty of advice on here, plenty of other stuff too. Good luck!

[quote name='Spike Vincent' timestamp='1354612199' post='1887918'] 40? You're still a puppy...... [/quote] Ah, you're a forest of Dean man? Looks like a lovely part of the world. I've been to gloucestershire before (Cheltenham) and it was a great place, must get a visit round your neck of the woods sometime in the next year or 2. I hope to go to uni in cheltenham to study music production eventually.

None. I have only ever performed one song. It was supposed to be 2, but the eejits gave us a broken DI box, so the second song couldn't be played. damn!

I had a similar problem. Well, i was getting pain in the base of my thumb, but my doctor said it was just a cramped muscle. So i just warm up more thoroughly now, and i haven't had much problem. Are you sure you are warming up enough? Also, like the others say, get the action low, and try not to fret so hard. It could be arthritis, see a doctor, or it could be a trapped nerve. could literally be 100 things. I've also started taking cod liver oil. My wrists seem to be looser, more capable. It couldn't hurt to try some of that stuff!

A fender machinehead keyring. I saw them on strings direct. Was going to give one to my bass teacher, but i was gonna do a lot of stuff. meh