Maude

Interesting. 😄

A comment in another thread got me thinking again about a topic which might make for some interesting discussion. The comment was by @Bilbo and was "The first electric basses were invented just at the point where Pop music started to become a thing." Which made me think which came first? Was the first bass designed because the music emerging at that time needed it, or was the 'new' music made because the new instrument made it possible? Throughout the years which has had the bigger influence on the other? For instance, did bands get louder because of PA developments, or did PAs develop because bands were using multiple amps to get more volume? Did effects develop because of bands creating effects like cutting speaker cones for distortion or phase effects caused by tape issues, and have effects changed how a band sounds or has how a band sounds changed effects? Then the electronics of the late 70s and 80s, was the explosion of early electronic music due to the tech, or the was explosion of tech due to the bands pioneering it? Then onto the modern computer age. Is modern music shaped by being able to be made by one person at home, or have people fallen out of love with full bands and pushed for equipment that allowed you to become a 'one man band'? So what do you think, has the tech been playing catch up to the latest bands, or have bands been playing catch up to the latest tech?

End Of The Road - Boyz II Men I can only apologise for that 😔

Yokohama-urry love - The Supremes 🤭

Under My Wheels - Alice Cooper

I don't know why, but wierdly I can reach further with my ring finger than my pinky, and as such use it far my than my pinky.

It's bad enough booking some venues as a five piece, but 10,000 Maniacs, how much space will they need?

I was too young for punk being born in '73 When I did work experience at 14 an older lad there lent me 'Now That's What I Call A F**kin Racket', much to my parents pleasure, especially as my mum quite liked Cliff Richard at the time. I loved it. Head Like A Hole - NIN Edit, that'll teach me to waffle on, it still works though.

But if they made a guitar from those 2x4 beams then they would become tonewood. I looked up oak as that should have the structural properties needed to make a solid body guitar. It does but it isn't normally used primarily because it's very heavy and hard, and not particularly pretty. But this is the silly bit, and the phrase that keeps cropping up, "It can be used as a tonewood".What do you mean "as a tonewood"? Is it a tonewood or not? Basically if it's made into a guitar then it's a tonewood, but if that same piece was made into a stool seat it remains just plain old oak. It's just a stupid, pretentious load of nonsense dreamt up to make a fairly mundane material appear somehow special.

By the tonewood label, if it's used to make an instrument then it's worthy of the tone prefix.

I'm sad/bored enough to have done a little research. It appears that any wood used to build a guitar is labelled a tonewood, regardless of any actual tonal properties it may, or may not, have. So as long as it is structurally capable of being used to make a guitar, it's a tonewood. It's as stupid as that. So when adverts/luthiers blither on about magical tonewoods then as long as they've built an instrument with it it's a tonewood, and by default means that every guitar or bass ever built from wood is built using a tonewood. So let's just call it wood. I also found out the best way to get spalting started in a wood is to pee on it and store in damp, humid conditions to let the bacterial growth develop. Mmmm 'Tonepiss'. 🙂

Anarchy in Woolworths - Chaotic Dischord

I Am The Law - Anthrax

This Charming Man - The Smiths

I can't remember now as I've had it (Boss app) so long, but I've a feeling I may have turned the sensitivity down a touch to stop it jumping about quite so much. Another one use for adjusting intonation at home which is very good, if a touch manic to look at is the 'Tuner Time' strobe app by Galexand. I find it very accurate for an app but nowhere near as simple as the Boss one.

Float On - The Floaters 💩

Can we have a whole band? Massive Attack up front.

I hadn't seen that tri line tape. That was kind of what I meant with the fine line tape, two strips 5mm apart and lacquer/nail varnish between them. The tri line will be even easier. The join line might not need sealing in at all, but if you do, try to peel the tape either side of your lacquer off while the lacquer is still wet. This will allow the edges to flow ever so slightly and leave a nice smooth edge rather than the sharp edge you get when left to dry first. Work out how you can pull the tape off in one easy action as you don't want to let it touch anywhere else with wet lacquer on it. It's not vital but just makes for a slightly nicer finish.

What's tone got to do with it though? If it has the required weight, strength and stability then it's suitable. Those same attributes would make it suitable for a tabletop, what do call it then?

I don't consider any tonewood. It's either wood suitable for building a bass, or it isn't. A post of mine further back in this thread explains that. I've been trying to get someone to tell me a wood that is structurally suitable for bass building but isn't used due to its poor tone. If there isn't one then surely it's just wood suitable for a bass or not.

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Very, very little is my opinion, hence why I've said the tonewood debate is nonsense. I'll happily believe that the body wood can have a slight affect on string vibration as it's the wood that holds either end of the string apart. If the wood is denser I reckon it will have less damping effect on the string vibrations. But I don't believe that any wood used for guitar construction would have a detrimental effect on how it sounds. The changes are so minimal as to be negated by many other factors. If 'tonewood' was a thing, as opposed to just plain old wood for guitar building, then would a bass built from the best tonewood available with a poor pickup sound better than a plywood bass with a very good pickup? I'd say no chance. In theory air temperature and density will have an affect on string vibration, just as wood type will, but it's so negligible as to not be worth mentioning, much like what wood the body is made from.

Vinyl wrap doesn't need the edges to be sealed, so technically, either an overlap or butt joint will be fine. In the real world the more wear an edge sees, the more likely it is to start lifting. So a butt joint where the two edges are touching would be preferable, as one edge isn't higher than the other, so wont get snagged. That said, an overlap joint somewhere where it won't get rubbed by your arm or shirt would be preferable to a butt joint in a high wear area. I don't know what sort of thing you're planning but if it could be done neatly, a sealing line of clear lacquer or nail varnish might be a good idea, just to stop the edge getting caught on clothing. You could mask a 5mm stripe over the butt joint with 3M Fine Line tape, neatly brush nail varnish on then peel the Fine Line off while still wet to get a really neat edge. This 5mm stripe of varnish would seal the joint line. If going for a solid matt colour then the varnish will stand out, but if gloss or a pattern then you'd barely see it.

That debate would scale new heights.

Colours appears as the colour you see due to the varying amounts of lightwaves they absorb, and therefore reflect back to your eye. If a surface absorbs the longer lightwaves towards the red end of the visible spectrum then it will appear as a colour towards the blue end of the spectrum with shorter lightwaves. The frequency of wave it absorbs, and thus reflects will determine its appearance somewhere in the spectrum. To appear red the surface will need to absorb all the, other increasingly shorter frequency waves, shorter waves being denser than longer waves means that the surface will be denser than a blue surface, or any other colour, so it will resonate better sending more of its sound frequencies back out to the strings, resulting in a louder instrument. So yes, you're correct. 😁