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Would PiL be considered New Wave? Well Post Punk must be a type of punk so I'm nominating Jah Wobble.

I've just given Teen Town a listen as I've never heard it before, it's just reinforced my view even more. It's not just the bass either, I was ready to turn it off before the bass even came in such is my dislike for this type of music but I kept going, even had a second listen to make sure but only got half way through. It sounded like the backing music to a tense stake out scene in Cagney and Lacey or some other 70's cop show, either that or just a two and a half minute intro to a song that never arrived. This isn't a childish rant but truly what it sounded like to me. I don't think I'll be converted any time soon and I'm happy not to take inspiration from it. I gave it a go though

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1449937732' post='2928196'] If you are as accomplished a player as you seem to be insinuating, I am genuinely surprised that you are that unaware of JP. I am not suggesting every bass player should have to take a test or be able to play a flawless version of Teen Town before they are allowed to take a gig, but I thought that they might at least be aware of one of the most influential and celebrated bass players ever! Might be an age thing…! [/quote] Could be an age thing, I'm 42 but I don't know at what age I'm supposed to like him. I'd agree it's more a genre thing. Jazz fusion, or whatever you want to call that style of music, repels me. I have no interest in listening to it or researching it so why should I know somebody who plays it? I've tried to like Stanley Clarke a couple of times in the past because I foolishly bought into this idea that I should listen to these 'gods' but it just makes me not want to play bass or ensure that I never play anything that sounds similar, so it's better for me to not listen to a genre that repels me. Most of the hereos lauded on here are similar in that I have heard of them and encountered their music at points in my life but have absolutely no desire to give them any more of my listening time. If I don't like their music then why would I? I'll rock the boat by saying these people include Stanley Clarke, Jaco, Geddy, Billy Sheehan, the Dream Theatre bloke, Les Claypool, Victor Wooten, Chris Squire, Mark King, there are others but you get the idea. If this makes me ignorant, stupid, uninformed or whatever insult makes folks feel better then that's fine. I'll just keep listening to music that I love and inspires me and keep playing what's in my heart and soul. If that's OK with everyone

Bizarrely Sid Vicious could almost be one, but I agree that there probably isn't one. I still maintain that at almost every gig with our rock band you could line up the three 'guitarists' at the front and ask the crowd to point out the bassist and no one would be able to. Not so much with the acoustic band as I play doublebass, which is a bit more obvious, although most still don't know what it is. How many more times can a comedy genius point out that "that's a big violin"?

I actually like Foxton but it made me chuckle.

[quote name='BottomE' timestamp='1449934795' post='2928153'] JJ who has still got a killer sound (at least in 2011) when saw him last. The guy from Elvis Costellos Attractions - great technique. Norman of Blockheads fame - quite groovy form this genre. Never really enjoyed Foxton though lots have included him. For me his tone wasn't great - technique nothing special - haircut by mum. [/quote] Excellent Tone........ not great. Technique.......nothing special. Haircut.........by Mum.

Suzi Quattro, but that's the singer thing again.

[quote name='Cato' timestamp='1449928339' post='2928074'] There are a lot of myths about humbucker vs single coils, most of which can be largely dispelled by browsing you tube and watching people playing Slayer or Metallica riffs on telecasters or pristine sounding Gilmour or Clapton solos on Les Pauls. [/quote] A bit like bassists claiming they can only play certain music on certain basses

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1449926621' post='2928049'] When it comes down to it, I have never met a half decent bass player (regardless of genre) in the real world who isn’t a Jaco fan or at least appreciative of his contribution to music / modern bass playing. [/quote] And another insinuation that if you aren't a fan or don't appreciate Jacos contribution then you can't even be a half decent player. The comments of others, in and out of the music business, would suggest I'm at least a half decent player yet Jaco has never registered on my radar. I have, since this thread, listened to him but along with Stanley Clarke his music makes me whince. Whether he's 'all that' or not I don't care, but you don't have to to be a 'half decent player'. Most of the players held up as 'bass gods' on heres music ranges from being strongly disliked by me to making me recoil when I hear it, bar a couple, but that's not a problem as there's masses of other music for me to enjoy.

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1449925376' post='2928030'] Maybe we should now wait and see if, after subsequent listening, the OP thinks any differently. [/quote] Oh how very considerate of you. I say burn him, stone him, tie him up and chuck him in a river, give him a chinese burn, I dunno, let's do something. My torch is lit and my pitchfork sharpened.

[quote name='Painy' timestamp='1449876750' post='2927779'] I'm on an android phone which isn't letting me view imbedded videos at the moment [/quote] My phone updated the android software yesterday and a the vids are back again Oh and I'll throw in Cannonball by The Breeders too.

How far in timescale can we go before we open the debate of what is and isn't punk? Although I'm sure aseemingly innocent thread wouldn't descend into a school playground bitching contest on here So with that in mind I'm going to nominate Matt Freeman and Fat Mike, both firm favourites with me.

Obviously I don't know, but I'm wondering if the OP is thinking that the higher the ohms rating of a cab the more damage it could do. If this is the case then it's the other way around, going below the stated amp rating causes damage not above,a four ohm load is as low as you want to go, eight will be fine. If my thought isn't the case then I apologise.

I have quite a craving for a Danelectro Longhorn in gold sparkle but can't really justify buying one, so it would be nice to wake up to one after the big man has emptied his sack.

Bloody autocorrect. That'll be Freebass, not Freemans

Freemans had three bassists (Peter Hook, Andy Rourke and Mani) and Primary by The Cure was two basses with no keys or guitars.

So sorry for the delay, we'd only rehearsed last night for reasons only known to a guitarist. Unfortunately there are no labels or markings in the case.

True, true.

So it's not marketing gone mad then, more marketing done quite well.

"Art meets guitar"? Chop saw meets guitar more like!

I have the Hidersine one, can't compare it with anything else but if a more expensive one has a lot thicker padding then I don't want it as it would be too bulky. I've been using mine for about three years for gigs and rehearsals once or twice a week and it shows no signs of wear at all, I'm not too precious with it either, it's there to do a job so if it gets a bit abused then so be it. I really can't fault it, not just great for the money but great full stop.

[quote name='ubit' timestamp='1448128577' post='2913231'] That has to be the worst. A band with not enough material having to flesh out a show! [/quote] Agreed. I saw Stiltskin at The Cooperage in Plymouth after their one hit. They only had enough material for a very short set and then had to repeat a couple as an encore. The gig was alright really but if you're going to tour the country please learn enough songs to play for an hour without repeating.

We've had the 'Who did you see last live' and 'Who's the worst band you've seen live' threads. Inspired by these two, let's hear about the gigs you didn't think would be great but turned out amazing. You know the ones you went to reluctantly with mates, or your other halves favourite band that you agreed to see, or the festival ones you've stumbled upon. To start you off with The Cult at Bristol academy in 2011, I'd always liked The Cult but hadn't bought anything of theirs since Sonic Temple, I saw they were touring again and it was only about £15 a ticket so Mrs. M and myself decided to go, it was only in weeks time and had sold out, bugger! Thought I'd have a quick look on ebay and a nice chap was selling two tickets at face value as he couldn't go, result. I wasn't expecting much, maybe the result of a low ticket price, small venue tour and the fact the Ian Astbury was touring with the doors previously and I thought The Cult were long gone but I was blown away. Astburys voice was still as good as in the eighties, Duffys big white Gretsch sounded amazing and the whole atmosphere in the small venue was brilliant. My wife just had a similar experience at the Alice Cooper show in Plymouth, she doesn't know any AC apart from what she's heard through me and wasn't fused at all about going, but she thoroughly enjoyed it, more than me I think, she hasn't stopped telling people about it. So go on then, let's hear your surprise 'best gigs'.

I had one of the Thomann anniversary ones in my basket while I pondered whether I actually needed it. . . . and then they sold out.

[quote name='ubit' timestamp='1447953496' post='2911812'] I absolutely LOVE Hanoi Rocks and Michael Monroe. I've seen them a few times and they always deliver. Never seen Michael on his own though. [/quote] He really really needed to invest in radio mic. He had a roadie running around the stage after him untangling his mic lead permanently. Very energetic, climbing all over the amps and PA, running around the stage and behind the drum riser and the roadie had to chase him around unhooking everything and everyone. Comical but bloody annoying for the rest of the band night after night I'd have thought