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[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1452088456' post='2946246'] Bergantino say that the HDN is more expensive than the HD, and at the moment Mark's doing the CN cheaper than the HD (it was £50 more expensive, now it's £50 cheaper). So it might be the same price as the pre-discount CN series. [/quote] that is exactly what Mark meant...he was referring to full retail price not sale price

I have worked with lots of really average drummers and two absolutely incredible drummers. The two good ones seemed to just have an ability to lay down what was needed for the song, nothing too flash just perfect. The average ones just seem to overplay...badly

[quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1452006890' post='2945423'] I've checked the 1x12" specs. Humm... $800 + VAT + Import Taxes for a 15kg cab that "only" puts out 350W... i think we can find cheaper/lighter from EU builders without compromising tone. [/quote] From the email that I received from Mark Stickley read the price should be similar to the CN series

Looks like Mark has the CN cabs on special offer at Bass Direct, around £100 saving per cab!

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1451938961' post='2944858'] Hmmm first line I read seems to be a concession that suggests the NEO cab sacrificed tone. ?? [/quote] Yeah I think you are right it does seem to read that way, I am almost tempted to agree as well. The ceramic loaded Bergs that I have used have the edge over the neo's for punch and depth. If I could manage it then I would still be using either my old hs410 or hd212... age is not on my side unfortunately

Short, sweet and too the point🤓

Looks like Jim has released another range of cabs http://bergantino.com/product-category/bass-guitar-speakers/hdn-series/ From the description on his website they will sound closer to the HD series than the CN that they must be replacing... Interesting

Basil!

[quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1451916386' post='2944528'] Ian, that TecAmp PUMA 900 you have. Is it German ? [/quote] Lol how are the TKS?

[quote name='LewisK1975' timestamp='1451912064' post='2944446'] OK does this mean you now get bragging rights if you own what's going to be described as an 'original german-made' Tecamp? [/quote] Yeah of course it does.. Mine is German mine is German mine is German lol My Puma 900 (German) is going nowhere, love it to bits Oh and did I mention it is German

I just had a duff E string in a pack of XL's... After emailing Daddario customer services their marketing manager emailed straight back and is sending out a some new strings and a complementary T shirt. I cannot speak more highly of this company, this is great customer service

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1451861092' post='2944192'] Surely this CN212 has to be bargain of the year (so far): http://basschat.co.uk/topic/270284-bergantino-cn212-cover-l650/ [/quote] Yeah I sold mine for the same price, looks like unless it has B********d on it these days then folks just ignore it. A bit daft really given how good a cab it is. I even thought of buying that one myself as I really do miss the sound...

If we are talking single 12's then The op mentioned the Vanderkley 212. Might be worth a look at the 112 mnt, it is a beast of a 112 rated at 600 watts @8 ohms. I have a pair with a puma 900 and they totally kick ass plus are a really easy lift. They are bigger than the Berg 112 (which I always felt struggled on their own at a gig) the mnt delivers some serious output and depth of tone.

A big shame I love Tecamp gear. Looks like there has been a fallout at the top

I think with the right amp and eq most cabs can sound close to what you want. All cabs have their own voice as do amps and guitars, and the CN212... has a great voice especially after a few hours of break in. The trick is pairing gear to optimise the rig to your tastes. I only sold my CN212 because I wanted to go modular, I found even at 20 kg lifting and twisting a tall cab into my car was just a little too much for my 5"6 ageing frame!

Having used a CN212 live on many occasions indoor and outdoor both with and without p/a I never felt the need to use a stand, a gramma pad maybe on Hollow floors but never a stand. Paired with a puma 900 it just kills!

CN212 is absolutely stunning and such an easy lift, if I were still after a single cab solution then it would be without question my first choice.