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[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1475319542' post='3144987'] I can`t remember which MB 212 it was that I had but it was a great cab. At the time I had a CMD121P & NY121 for portability, and the 212 with a Little Mark 3 - that soon became my gigging rig, I just preferred it, think it just seemed to have more "size" to the sound. [/quote] Club 600F32 😉 No idea why they discontinued it when they did. It was the best cab they made IMO. An absolute beast.

It's very normal. I have a fantastic Les Paul, but the basses do nothing for me.

I think I said earlier in this thread that my next bass would be a keeper. I've thinned the herd to just my first bass and one main bass; bought to congratulate myself on staying alive for 30 years! I've had it about 4 months now, just over 40 gigs with it and I still love it. I would have to be in the s#1t financially to part with it. [URL=http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/mattdigweed/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_20160525-180942_zps7b7ju1gh.png.html][IMG]http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg488/mattdigweed/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_20160525-180942_zps7b7ju1gh.png[/IMG][/URL]

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1474312065' post='3137068'] If they don't get used, they don't get the 'love' so they can be sold. I've never 'got' a huge collection that never gets played... Must be just me then.... [/quote] Nope me too. When I predominantly played guitar, I had a bout a dozen of the things. It was fun but pointless. The most basses I've owned at one time is 3 I think. Now I have just the one gigging bass, my Sadowsky, and my first bass.

Wow. Not sure if that's a smart move or not, on first impressions. The US Standard is THE bass, isn't it? It is the industry standard for working musicians. Undoubtedly the product line is a mess, but it seems that the Standard is the one you build the rest of the range around. Will the Elites be the new Standards then?

That's a shame. I assumed that these were like hot cakes as they seem universally loved. I wouldn't mind it myself but my amp fund is pretty much showing minus figures!

[quote name='walbassist' timestamp='1474271226' post='3136578'] Very nice. I've always been curious to try a Glock (amp, not gun) [/quote] Did you have a Demeter, or am I mistaken? My choice was between the two. The Glockenklang certainly does what it does well. I had an interesting conversation with them before purchase where they advised they had held off on Class D as they felt they couldn't build the amp they wanted and weren't prepared to compromise that much. I've not tried any of their bigger amps, but would be keen to see how it compared. Very early days, but it has something in there that I've been searching for!

Thanks guys, for your help pre-order too. There is definitely something special going on with the Glock. I'm very glad I went for it. Interesting that lots of people bypass the EQ. This weekend I might play with it a bit as I'm playing a familiar venue, but I got way more than I expected from bypassing it.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1474287708' post='3136792'] Thanks, man! That fits rather nicely with the impression I had from reading on BC and from the few minutes of experience I had with them on my Little Bastard cabs. Nah. I think it's a reasonable question. He didn't boss me around or demand I provide the info. He was just asking a question he assumed I knew the answer to. Reading about both individually is not the same as comparing them directly, which he assumes I've done. Likewise, I do not boss around or demand in this thread. I just hope someone has compared them, and is willing to share the knowledge. [/quote] Fair enough. Good luck with the sale. Not that you should need it! Lots of people love those amps!

Generic and oversimplified: Steamliner = more headroom, round, clearer and cleaner. Orange = growly/grindy, won't stay as clean at volume. Also, I'd tell him to do his own homework! It's not like it's hard to find info on either of those two.

Well, Tuesday was... After a good clear out of old gear I picked this up to try something new. I've got my Puma 900, which is as light and portable as fresh air so thought I'd look at the next size up; opening up a class of amp that I've ignored completely for a few years. I had a bit of correspondence with Glockenklang before buying and the level of service was great. All my questions were answered quickly, often within minutes, and in flawless English. Upon opening the box, I was surprised by how chunky the amp was. It's not a whopper, at 5kg, but is reassuringly hefty. In the hand, it feels like a piece of top quality kit. It is absolutely solid. The knobs have a bit of weight to them (ooh-err) and all turn smoothly and you can just tell that no expense has been spared. It is obviously a very expensive amp, so you get what you pay for here, I suppose. It's got lots of different coloured LED too, so that's already a winner. The power amp is still Class D. Just, not the usual. Peering inside it looks to be an Anaview/Abletec 1000w job. The Blue Sky is rated for 700w at 4 ohm, with two little internal dip switches to make that 700w at 2.7ohm. The volume pot is logarithmic, which takes a bit of mental readjustment. Glock tell me that as 5 o'clock - pot maxed, is actually full volume, you can turn it up as needs be. It won't hit full power at 1 o'clock as per many other amps. Fridays gig saw me run the volume at about 1 o'clock, in a big, long, horrible sounding room. The preamp is Class A, as found on Glockenklang's flagship models. It has two inputs, one for ultra high output and piezo. Even with my Sadowsky, using the lower Impedance input I still run the gain about 1 or 2 o'clock for optimal input signal. The pre is definitely clean, even when cranking the gain it doesn't really overdrive. But you can push it all the way and it sounds cool and does fur up a touch. EQ wise, I haven't actually experimented yet. I gigged it Friday and played without EQ. The pre is so good, that even without EQ engaged it just sounded right. Sound wise... first thing I noticed, it is bigger down low than my other Class D amps. It's not louder, though I didn't push it to full volume, initial impressions are that the Puma 900 is louder. But, the Glock took the volume in its stride. With other amps I found that even if the volume was there they sounded out of breath at that level. The Glock retained the same tonal qualities at all volumes. It must have some sort of limiter, but it doesn't have that multi band compression type thing going on when pushed. The mids are super clean, even compared to the Puma. This is without the EQ engaged too, which is semi parametric; and the highend sings. It is VERY articulate across the board. String noise and technique flaws are more noticeable! It also paired very well with the Vanderkley. A cab which itself is pretty big down low and full but clean. I wondered if they'd be 'sterile' together, but I needn't have, it's a great match. Super deep, clean and sparkly! So, I'm very happy with it. I wanted something a bit different but still light enough to slog around. This is easily done in the super Glockenklang carry case. I wanted the same vibe as the Tecamp but just with a bit 'more'... I'm very happy with it. Oh, also, the fan. It is dead quiet. It comes on and turns off as needed. Even when on, I had to have a look to actually check. I apologise for the rambling on, this has all been written on my phone so it's probably difficult to follow! Didn't mention the H word once, but there is plenty of it 😀 [URL=http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/mattdigweed/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09-18-14-34-57_zpsbchuzdzj.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg488/mattdigweed/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09-18-14-34-57_zpsbchuzdzj.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Pretty boring, but of a rubbish pub with a horrible sound. Some very, very strange punters. But, i did get to use my latest amp at volume. It really came into its element at volume and I'm very pleased with the way it sounded even though the venue is always a struggle sound wise.

Depends on the new and second hand value of that item I suppose. If you're paying a good percentage of its value for a repair, you may be able to sell it for parts or as is and put that money on top of the would be repair cost for another one. That probably wouldn't apply to high end stuff though or things where there's a healthy second hand market.

Nice! Very tidy work on the cabs.

Hercules is a safe bet i think. I've never had any issues and they state they are safe for 'most' nitro finishes. Apparently there are hundreds of different variations of nitro.

No experience of them. But, it is a Yamaha and Miki Santamaria on YouTube seems to like them, they look great too. I'd like to try one.

If anything, would the annual changing of amps not reinforce those findings?

I know a couple of guys that use them and have fantastic sounds. I had one and wasn't so successful with it. I really liked it at lower volume but didn't like it when pushed and found the same things as you are. I've got a new amp incoming, which is still class D power with class A pre, still lightweight at 5kg, so will be interested to see how it stacks up.

For a 6x10... just get the 4 Pro you want! Then there'll be no wondering what if or settling for second best. If you're moving a big cab you might as well have the amp to go with it.

I don't really know Ampeg and I'm sure you've considered it... But, 7 Pro? Is that a smaller lighter version?

On the colour, I had a shell pink P bass a few years ago. I had more interest and positive comments from punters on that bass that every other bass I've owned combined! People love a pink bass!

[quote name='BottomE' timestamp='1473505518' post='3130795'] In all seriousness it probably takes about 1 minute to find out if:[list] [*]they can keep time [*]play at the right tempo [*]don't do stupid fills [*]have good "feel" [/list] If they tick all the above then you should be fine. [/quote] I'd agree with that. The stupid, out of place, out of time fills are what annoys me most. One of the drummers I work with regularly now isn't flash at all, but is so solid with a great groove. He has a musical brain and ear to contribute to the song. I choose him for gigs over others that are probably technically more profiecient but aren't as switched on to the band.

Never played one, but it is unique! Love the colours too.