Sean

[quote name='ead' timestamp='1327669032' post='1515059'] This one? [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1985-Westone-Spectrum-DX-Bass-Guitar-Made-Japan-Matsumoku-Roadworn-/260939569658?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3cc135d9fa"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cc135d9fa[/url] [/quote] That's the one I mentioned in my first post - ugh!

[quote name='ead' timestamp='1327674431' post='1515198'] Here's one of those BB200s mentioned above. Looks quite tidy this one... ...so much so it's on my Watch list now...BAD BOY, BAD BOY NO MORE BASSES [/quote] On my watch list too

[quote name='leftyhook' timestamp='1327655304' post='1514714'] that is your dilemma. people can suggest basses ( I have never heard of most of them) but you could wait months until one came up. was there a deadline? also, if you are picky, as you say, you need to try it out. Squire. acceptable weight, a shape you know, waiting for a set up and pick ups. [/quote] There wasn't a deadline in the discussion but a quick phonecall and chat and we've agreed 1st March. [quote name='charic' timestamp='1327656391' post='1514733'] Sell your favourite bass to me for £10, I'll then promptly sell it back for £10. Then you have £190 to upgrade it [/quote] Nice one! Tramples over the rules too! [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1327658250' post='1514773'] What are you playing at the moment? If you have to be happy with your challenge bass then knowing what you're currently playing is going to be a factor. Also does you budget include a decent set up and time taken to make any mods? [/quote] See sig for current basses - two four strings are used most in this covers band. Any set up and mods would be done by me so parts would be the only cost. [quote name='Nibody' timestamp='1327662460' post='1514862'] Westfield B1000. Simples.£90 from ebay. Nice basses for a budget [/quote] Breaches way too many rules! Read the first post! [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1327665297' post='1514957'] I imagine this is pretty good, and fits the task [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/160385-for-sale-fernandes-apb-4/"]http://basschat.co.u...ernandes-apb-4/[/url] [/quote] That looks promising

[quote name='hrc_la' timestamp='1327656746' post='1514746'] I don't know if it break any rule but maybe a ibanez gsr 190 or 200. [/quote] Loads of breaches of the rules with these ;-)

I've just edited rule 1 so it covers import duty/charges and also clarifies that delivery is not included in the £200 :-)

[quote name='Bigwan' timestamp='1327651225' post='1514643'] I bought a well used/damaged but playable Ibanez ATK700 for £150 a couple of years back. I Intended to refinish it and keep it as my MM sound bas, but i haven't touched it more than twice - if it fits the bill you can have it at that money + postage... [/quote] Thanks for the offer. I had an ATK400 for a while and it sounded glorious but the neck was way too chunky for me :-(

[quote name='waldemar' timestamp='1327625907' post='1514578'] Easy - provided the p-ups are still serviceable, I'd have no problem recommending one of these: [url="http://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/105035926/vintage-csl-jazz-bass.html"]http://www.preloved....-jazz-bass.html[/url] From what I understand it's basically an Ibanez but branded CSL (Charles Summerfield LTD) by the UK importer. Quirky headstock, block inlays, 70s Japanese manufacture. What's not to like?! [/quote] That's quite cool. I bet it weighs a ton? An old Jap bass really does appeal and would be a real trip down memory lane; I had a Cimar when I was in schoool. [quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1327627678' post='1514589'] +1 for a yamaha! [/quote] An old BB is top of the list and it would be happy living with its grandchildren at my house but they they do seem to fetch well over £200 quid.

[quote name='leftyhook' timestamp='1327623060' post='1514539'] . Don't stress over this and that and which and what so much! [/quote] I'm not stressing; it's a game with rules, it's a challenge that's interesting [quote name='noelk27' timestamp='1327623930' post='1514544'] Well, if you're talking Precision and Jazz clones, then start looking at Columbus, Joodee, El Maya and factories like Guyatone, Yamaki, Kawai. The likes of a Columbus Precision copy, even at the bottom of the range, would have a body made with eight pieces of Sen, and a good chunk of maple for a neck. Pickups? Often made by Maxon, Goto(h), DiMarzio. [/quote] Thanks! I now have a load of new eBay search words [quote name='Jerry_B' timestamp='1327624257' post='1514547'] Get a Yamaha BB414... [/quote] As an owner of a BB415, BB2024x and BB2025x I would get on with a BB414 like a house on fire. Read the rules though, The BB414 is a Taiwanese bass. [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1327624498' post='1514549'] I know very little about cheap basses.... so why can't you get a used Squire? [/quote] I could if it was Japanese or pre-2000 Korean.

[quote name='noelk27' timestamp='1327622311' post='1514523'] Well, the Aria Laser that I just sold, for £200 shipped to your door, with a free set of brand new DR strings thrown in, would have ticked all those requirements off, no problem. If you want to go into a bit more detail about previous basses you've used, and the sound you want to achieve, I'll come up with a list of ten Japanese built basses that would work. [/quote] Check my sig for the current stable. Over the years I've mainly played P, PJ, J, MM style pickup configs and normal Fender-derived body shapes. As far as sound goes, I like to cut through the mix and have some articulation in my sound, probably why I prefer a PJ to a P. Sorry to be so vague but passive PJ config is my favourite and I let my fingers and amp do the work I guess.

[quote name='leftyhook' timestamp='1327622198' post='1514521'] I bought a P/J squire for £90 .2 Dimarzio s/h replacement pups = £60. total £150 my talent to bring the best out of it = free That's it. I'm gigging it tomorrow cos it feels and sounds the way I want it. Way too much emphasis on expensive equipment. [/quote] I'd agree. Is it a pre-2000 Korean Squier?

[quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1327621948' post='1514517'] See if you can find an OLP Stingray. They're normally really good and I've seen a few go for around £150 leaving you with a bit of cash to get a better pickup innit. Truckstop [/quote] Where were the OLPs made and when? If they are Chinese, Indonesian or Korean-post-2000 they're a no go. I think I'm pretty much stuck with old JapCrap or a very few obscure other things.

My friend, who is the guitarist in the covers band I play in, has challenged me to find and buy a bass that I can use as my main instrument for a year. He has laid down a lot of conditions that prevent me from, for example, going out and buying a Squier VM Jazz or similar great value for money instrument that would easily cut the mustard. You might not agree with the rules but I think they are reasonable and that this challenge, despite my pickiness, is very achieveable. I'm looking for my fellow basschatters to help and advise here and possibly even offer me a bass that they might have for sale... [color=#0000cd][b]His rules are:[/b][/color][list=1] [*][color=#000000][b][u]Budget £200 [/u][/b][/color][color=#0000cd][b]- this is to include cost of bass and includes any post-purchase modifications, like new pups or bridge or preamp or whatever. Adding a Hipshot X-tender lies outside the budget; I need one and we agreed it is unreasonable to constrain the challenge because of this. I can't exceed the £200 with import charges/taxes etc. Delivery is not included in the £200, so that makes it a bit easier.[/b][/color] [*][color=#0000cd][b]All purchases within £200 budget can be second hand if needed (Duh!)[/b][/color] [*][color=#0000cd][b]The bass must be made of a recognised traditional tonewood, no Poplar or "modern nonsense woods". He was on the fence about Basswood though. He says Ash, Swamp Ash, Alder, mahog are what he expects.[/b][/color] [*][color=#0000cd][b]The bass must be of "traditional" design - this is very open to interpretation but I know he excludes headless bats, pointy metal type instruments.[/b][/color] [*][color=#0000cd][b]The bass must suit the style of band we are - this is easy, we play funky rock covers, Chili Peppers, Rage, Audioslave and lots of other stuff. P, J, MM style basses will fit in no problemo![/b][/color] [*][color=#0000cd][b]I have to be absolutely happy with it for gigging - This has implications inasmuch as I wouldn't be happy with a Westone Thunder because when on the strap it hangs like a Warwick and fret 1 is too far away for my own comfort.[/b][/color] [*][color=#0000cd][b]Here's a tough one: it must have been manufactured in one of the following countries: USA, UK, Germany, Japan, Korea (before 2000) or any current member of the EU![/b][/color] [*][color=#0000cd][b]If the bass is sold with accessories like a case, strap, lead or whatever I can sell them on afterward to get the price down by however much they are sold for however I cannot remove any parts of the bass, e.g. removing a Badass and replacing with a cheaper bridge.[/b][/color] [*][color=#0000cd][b]Timescale is by 1st March 2012[/b][/color] [/list] One of my own rules here is that it will have to be under 10 lbs, anything heavier just plays hell with my back and shoulders as a gigging instrument so something like an Ibanez Blazer or Roadster becomes near impossible sadly. I've been trawling Ebay and have seen a Westone Spectrum, which looks very hair metal mullet-ish but not much else. If there was ever a time for Captain Jap Crap to come back it's now. So... What do you think? Ideas?

£229 for a 4 string at Andertons. None in stock yet.

Oh, look there's a set for sale on this very forum [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/164501-for-sale-dr-extra-life-black-beauties-strings-45-105/page__fromsearch__1"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/164501-for-sale-dr-extra-life-black-beauties-strings-45-105/page__fromsearch__1[/url]

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1327075436' post='1506111'] Just seen this [url="http://www.samsontech.com/zoom/products/guitar-effects/g5/"]http://www.samsontec...tar-effects/g5/[/url] Looks like a B5 might not be far off! [/quote] Which, if it does appear will address a lot of the limitations of the B3! I like the look and spec of the G5 a lot.

Recently it's Stu Cook from Creedence, he's got a real swampy feel and it's been really easy to learn his stuff quickly.

[quote name='Wolverinebass' timestamp='1326657494' post='1500122'] How rubbish were the support act?!! (Red White and Blues). Myself and my mate were laughing so hard we thought our eyeballs might fall out. [/quote] Awful generic, strutting, bluesrock, cookie-cutter cliche band with a terrible name; if this band was a film it would be straight-to-video. I really wanted to punch the Keef-wannabe guitarist and the Glen Hughes-wannabe bassist/vocalist, the other guitarist needed aslap and was the worst Slash impressionist ever! Stand Up for Rock'n'Roll? Yeah, boys but only because there aren't any seats downstairs. [quote name='peteb' timestamp='1326737672' post='1501334'] Why bother comparing them - they're both great! Having said that, Aronoff is a monster..... [/quote] Kenny was absolutely magic, really enjoyed his playing and personality. What a gig, I smiled all the way home.

Hmm, looks like these's none left

Top bloke to deal with! I hope your dad likes the hangers :-)

I've used the previous model, the H4 for years; it's a great all round piece fo kit and the H4N fixes all the complaints I had with it like the fact that it was a nasty tacky plastic enclosure. I've recorded gigs and rehearsals with it and used it as a practise amp, audio interface and also as a card reader for uploading photos when nothing else was available.