Sean

I saw this at the bash on Sunday, I used to have one. It's being sold by a gent that knows amps inside out (literally). This is a bargain gem. 

Good luck with the sale, Tony. It was great to meet you in Taunton. 

On 11/10/2025 at 17:53, HeadlessBassist said:

@Misdee is absolutely correct. It's a late 80's Overwater Artisan, a slightly downsized, single pickup version of the Overwater Original.

 

Here're the specs from a 1987 review...

 

OVERWATER ARTISAN BASS

PRICE£599

BODYmahogany

NECKmahogany

FINGERBOARDrosewood

PICKUPone humbucker

CONTROLSvolume and tone; coil tap switch

COLOURSblack/red/blue/sunburst

Interesting strap button location. 

2 minutes ago, Rigetto said:

 

Yessir! 

You don't want to know how much I payed for this, it was a steal!

 

Very nice indeed! 

If you ever need to find a new home for it, you know where to come 🙃

3 minutes ago, cetera said:

 

Can I get an "Amen"?!

Amen. 

GLWTS

I think a better thread title would help loads 😉

Worth mentioning too is that I had that experience where I thought I was loud enough and they were telling me to turn up. I think that is a rite of passage with these cabs, isn't it?

I went to an audition in a rehearsal room today. Monaco, GK Legacy 800, Spector. All I had between songs was how good it sounded, what is it? never heard such clarity from a bass rig, never seen anything like it before. What brand is that? etc etc.  

I wasn't even using my pedal board, just the Comp4 on the GP5. 

I've always thought that Spector + GK is magic but add in a Monaco and there's the holy trinity right there. 

I don't know if I got the gig but the gear made people smile and I had a lot of fun.  

That is absolutely shocking and should be rejected. It's damaged! 

There's absolutely no pride in that work at all. Did someone really look at that and say, "that's good to go, he'll be over the moon with that."?

13 minutes ago, Beedster said:

….but of course, if you could get the same from that £454.80 amp you would…

 

Which is why it still makes more sense to repair it than to buy the cheaper option. And the great thing about many tube amps is that you’ll be able to keep doing so, not always the case with solid state 👍

 

Owning a big tube amp’s a bit like owning a big dog, you might get lucky with the vet’s bills, but you probably won’t 🤔

Couldn't agree more. Obviously, I paid the pro forma invoice within 3 minutes of it landing. There's 100 years of gigging left in that amp if looked after properly. If Macca and Slipknot are still gigging them then there must be a reason...

The Brutal Truth About Owning Big Boxes of Bottles

My 400+ has been in The Amp Hospital in Guildford.

It costs £84 for an inspection and diagnosis. Then you get a full report and a quotation. Small repairs are done within the £84.

Here's the quotation for the work. Note that there's no valve replacement in this cost. 

You can buy a very good high end used solid state or Class D amp for £454.80 i.e. the £84 plus the repair charge.  

Slipknot sends its 400+ amps to the same place. The work and knowledge of Mesa products is what you pay for. 

I'm sure that I could get it done cheaper but this is a relic and it needs the TLC that Surrey Amps gives. 

One thing is for sure now, this thing is going out gigging to earn its keep.

The point of this post is, just understand what you're getting into before adopting one of these beasts.

@Beedster @agedhorsefor interest, Chris, Andy😉  

On 13/10/2025 at 13:08, Sean said:

Currently my Mesa 400+ is away for repair, expensive! 

 

 

 

My advice to anyone getting misty eyed about valves goodness is, understand that, like cars, they have servicing costs. 

On 09/08/2024 at 10:42, BassAdder60 said:

Hi folks 

 

Any users of the WD800 on here and how you rate it compared to say other top end class d amps ? 
 

Does it lack in anything particular or is it about as good as it gets without going for a full valve amp ?

It's modelled on the Walkabout, so that's the comparison for the WD-800. The Walkabout used a MOSFET power section. 

The newly released 800D is modelled on the 400+, which has a valve power section.  

The current range of Class D Mesa amps are very highly regarded by fans.

The big advantages of these Class D amps is that they're not 30kg and they don't have huge servicing costs to keep them running over the long run. 

Valve amps aren't the "gold standard", they're just different technology. For many of us any advantage they give is "outweighed" by Class D amps' convenience. 

Yesterday I took my Laney 400 to the bass bash, it's 37kg. It's a behemoth of a thing. It takes some handling. Currently my Mesa 400+ is away for repair, that's going to be expensive! 

Mesa products are a gold standard whatever tech they are and, being very customer focused, Mesa makes very different flavours of amp for different needs. 

I'd recommend trying out the WD-800, TT-800 and 800D and seeing which ones suits you best. You can't go wrong with any of them, they're just different. 

On 13/01/2023 at 09:11, Rigetto said:

Thanks for your contribution mate.

 

I'll let you know guys.

What happened? Did you buy it? What did you think?

@Rigetto

What a brilliant day. My first ever bass bash.

A big thanks to @scrumpymike and family for pulling it all together and also the rest of the team locally.

Great to see so many basschatters from far and wide (Scotland to SE London) all coming in for the day. 

@Phil Starr thanks for the demo with the cabinets/drivers. Lots of food for thought.  

The awesome Grainger Hades going through a Laney Nexus Tube 400 (8XKT88) + LFSys Monaco. 

I'm a big fan of a Spector through a GK + LFSys but this was next level. 

Look closely, there are 3 LFSys Monaco cabs and a Monza in this pic.

I've just booked a hotel for the Friday night after a gig. So I can go to the show and then return West, do another gig on the Saturday and then go home after that. 

Mods, please can we move this to Repairs & Technical?

When I have one of these mystery faults, I plug in and wiggle each little part or connection until I get closer to the fault. Methodical trial and error to find the bad connection is the way to go. 

Keep us up to date, it's probably simple to fix but difficult to isolate. 

This is a process of elimination without being able to get hands-on. 

Run the soldering iron over the connections on the pickups. Just melt the solder and let it set again. Sometimes a dry joint develops. 

Are the pots OK? I fitted new CTS to a bass today and the "common" leg wasn't connected properly. This can happen with use too.

5 minutes ago, Phil Starr said:

Just packed the car ready for an early start. I'm only bringing nine speakers this year. 

Are you bringing a BC112 by any chance? 

If you are, I'll leave mine at home 😉

I used a few sets of Black Beauties and another coloured coated variant some years ago and they were fantastic for about one rehearsal and 2 gigs and then they just suddenly died. I haven’t been anywhere near DR as a brand since. I remember playing them for the first time on a Spector Euro 4 LX (with an East Preamp) and thinking “wow” but then at the following gig I thought there was a preamp problem but it was the DRs that had just given up being zingy. 

I’m in.

Yesterday I was swapping pickups in my Valenti P and noticed a big difference in the build between the two P pickups. 

I've changed the pickups in the Valenti a few times just to have a change from time to time.  What I've been chasing this time is high end grit and sparkle without losing any bottom end. 

My go-to chap over the last couple of years is Lee Laverack of Laverack Guitars, who makes Toltec pickups. He's based in Leeds. I bought a pair of Toltec J pickups a couple of years ago and they blew me away. 

Earlier this year I asked Lee to make me a pair of J-based splittable humbuckers for the BB1300 and worked his magic way above and beyond. The original Yamaha pickups weren't great but the bass is a peach and he did it proud. In the early stages Lee likes to understand what you're looking for in the sound, so likes a chat to establish what you like and don't like in a pickup. 

I've been playing the Valenti a lot lately and have found that it doesn't sound like I want it to these days. It's a PJ and I used to play it in a rock covers band, with two guitars, playing it mainly with a pick. I decided to have a conversation with Lee and see what he could do. 

At this point it's worth saying that Toltec pickups are very competitively priced compared to other handmade UK boutique pickups. The custom made (to my spec) P+J set I've just received cost the same posted as a P from other UK boutique makers' standard products. 

Here's the Toltec P (2) compared to the HotRod Thumper (1) that I took out. You can see it's much taller. The sound and character of the bass has changed completely. Lots of top-end and sparkle. it's a tall bobbin, overwound with higher gauge wire to bring out the dynamics and reduce the compression. 

It'll be at the Bash tomorrow and at the SE Bash next month. 

3 hours ago, itu said:

Were there any kinds of arrangements or just dixieland? 

Pretty much like the records. 

Solid drummer.

Good audiences. 

It gives a good insight into who you're replacing and in this case, who he replaced. Lots of videos going back years. 

My #1 takeaway was on what bass to use at the audition, or rather, in my case, what not to use.