NickA

Often wondered why double basses have those ugly extensions instead of a drop tuner. No need after all! Tho orchestral music often goes low C, requiring C, G, D, G tuning which is a bit of a fingering nightmare and would need detuners approaching those on a zon hyper bass. 5 string maybe the way to go.

It'd be a great bass if you did it. 😬 thing about the block inlays; this has of course been discussed 😁

Probably a bit neater too. The ebs is quite a large metallic beast covered in knobs and switches that are easily activated in error...I had to read the manual FFS!

I had a truss rod issue on a bass I'd had a lovely ebony board made for. Tried to remove said board as though it was on a double bass, using steam and gentle prizing, to get at truss rod only to find the "luthier" had glued it on with araldite. Broke the board, damaged the neck planing off the remains of the board, new neck required ....which has been pretty good for the last 35 years, so happy days! And here's a scary thread about someone ( who knew nothing about Wals) repairing two Wal truss rods. He did it tho! https://www.talkbass.com/threads/scary-neck-repairs-two-wal-necks.1616350/#:~:text=He sent the neck to me%2C expecting,to replace the truss rod and fingerboard.

Fretless rules. I have a fretted MK2 Wal which I hardly ever play...because I have a fretless and that's what I almost always pick up. Fretless sounds and feels so good. But: two reasons not to mod your bbne2. 1. That's an expensive bass to go modding. I defretted a bass once but it was a plywood jazz copy. 2. Apart from being thro neck the bbne2 appears to have those mother of pearl plates ( forget their name) on the fingerboard. Those would have to go and be filled with matched ebony. Difficult and expensive. A whole new board might be easier...and that might upset the neck stability. On balance if say great idea but not on this one!

The ebs is way more feature rich. Two channels is the main thing so you can leave two basses plugged in and swap around with ease. Also has an HP / notch filter for killing room acoustic related boom ( a problem on a double bass sometimes). The fishman is basically a DI box with eq ( with built in tuner if you want that ) For a single eub, if you just want a di, then the fishman will do the job. Then again, my pjb amp already has a di so the fishman would give me anything new.

I acquired a stan Clarke from bass chat before Xmas. Quality bit of kit. I've only done one gig with it, dB into A and eb into B. It will take a mike with phantom power too and is also a di box. Must say, being able to set independent gain and eq for both basses and then between songs, mute, swap basses, swap channels, unmute, play ( with no clinks or pops) is brill. The notch / HP filter is quite subtle. Our sound guy wants my bass through the pa so DI to the mixer and normal output to my little pjb flightcase for use as a stage monitor. Clean sound,no distortion, no hiss.

I refuse to have such monstrosities bolted to my bass! Often have to de-tune for orchstra, but my 4/4 bass will go to C before the strings start to slap. Of course it does mess with fingering and the question of do I go C/D A D G or C G D G and pretend the bottom two strings are a cello! I never understood why the double bass world hasn't cottoned onto detuners. Quite often a piece comes up that briefly needs a low D or C and it would be good to detune for just part of a symphony etc ... its frowned upon somewhat to re-tune the bass between pieces, let alone between movements or during a long rest! Extensions and fifth strings are obviously a good way to achieve this, but a detuner would be neater.

fully carved bassfor sure. Hybrids and laminates are around the £800 to £1000 mark, so probably up to £1500.... which is what you appear to be asking on eBay. Bassbags sell fully carved factory basses for a lot more than this, starting around £2500 but Casswells have some around £1300 Of course it depends on what it sounds like!

Genius 😁😁. What are those weird rubbery looking red "strings"?

There are many many models from boiler plate plywood up to some rather nice fully carved "master series" Which one are you looking at? All decent workmanlike basses tho not terribly special at the price. Lady at my orchestra has a plywood vb80 which is built like a battleship but frankly pretty awful ( despite £250 strings ). I tried a vb503 at bass bags and it was pretty good, but also a bit bland and also £8000 You'd likely get better value 2nd hand, but yes, they're ok and certainly won't fall to bits.

Turners in beeston is ok. But tend to high end and wood rather than carbon. Bass bags in Ripley is still going ( after a major financial wobble) but have little in stock...tend towards lower end stuff. I got my carbon Arcos S3 from them but they had to order it in for me to try it. Better bet is to call Creswell Strings, who will send you 6 bows in a box that you can try at home; call or mail them with a quick description of what you want and your budget. I did that for a new cello bow a few years ago. I think it's important to try the bows with your own bass as the interaction counts for a lot. Bows sound different on different basses and spending more doesn't always result in the difference you expect. So ifbyou do make a trip to Nottinghamshire you'll need to bring your bass!

Fretless Wal custom biased to the bridge pickup into a small, clean sounding and mid rich pjb flightcase with flat eq. Sounds like a stoned Percy Jones doing a jaco impression. A have a fretted warwick that sounds completely different and keep intending to gig it .... but then just take the fretless instead. More than one bassist has stopped playing a Wal as the sound is distinctive and detracts from their own sound and the music... not me, I love it.

Taped fingers changes the sound, but that's not an issue for practicing. I used to get blisters, but no longer do and I don't think my right hand is significantly more calloused than it was. Some things I've learned over 30 odd years: Let the amp take the strain, you don't need to pluck that hard. Share the load, use index and middle finger. I used to use just my middle finger but now use both, some sequences of notes fall easier if you alternate between fingers. Play little and often if you can, building up to those three hour gigs! Pluck diagonally across the strings, it sounds better and spreads the load across more skin. Some people recommend wiping your finger down the side of your nose to apply a little natural lubricant. Sounds a bit gross, but works actually. Keep playing!

Or buy a pack of these and see if they help: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292979806418?var=0&shprz=EBAY_GB_619&_ul=GB&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&toolid=20006&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338986375&loc_interest_ms=&loc_physical_ms=9046416&adtype=pla&customid=Cj0KCQiA0p7KBhCkARIsAE6XlalW5IfZcd_Uf--FTf6ENEaToqvPpylhUhmEwS2j7VKA9ACQm9NAxNkaApXuEALw_wcB|null|null&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20398737499&gclid=Cj0KCQiA0p7KBhCkARIsAE6XlalW5IfZcd_Uf--FTf6ENEaToqvPpylhUhmEwS2j7VKA9ACQm9NAxNkaApXuEALw_wcB

The cartoon says it all. Logically, the genuine road wear ( the scratch) should add more value than the fake ( Sandberg applied ) wear. Meanwhile on Wal and Warwick forums the question is "if I get my bass refinished to look like new, will it be more valuable" to which the answer is generally yes. Equally dumb as it's the sound that counts.

I know, doesn't it just. All Stanley is remembered for, tho he's done lots more. It is indeed a bit samey. The other tracks on nightfall are good too tho, I like the fifth of Beethoven ( Ornette Coleman?) and will be looking out more of Herr Ilg.

20 hour flight from Perth back to Brum last night ...Emirates have a surprisingly good music library on which I found this: I'd never heard of Dieter Ilg...ok so it has a trumpet on it too, but boy do I wish I could play like him.

Moving the bridge will alter the tone. Fitting a new nut will change the scale which will also play havoc with intonation surely? Learning to swap around is really the best way. The note you get when your thumb hits the neck heel is a good cross check but electric bassists manage without it; good intonation depends on accurate position changes which is something well worth practising (over and over!). I borrowed a 3/4 D(ISH) neck bass while my 4/4 Eb (ISH) neck bass was being mended. It was no Biggie. But I realised that using the neck heel as a reference was a bit of a crutch.

My 4/4 dB fits in a Skoda citigo. Using the neck down the foot well body on reclined front seat method. I got to a bass bash once with the dB, two powered cabs and three bass guitars....in the citigo; but I can't quite remember how.

I have one now!! Not found the hp filter to make a heck of a difference tbh. Yet to try it "on stage";

Even if the riser works it will have a frequency response that accentuates some notes / harmonics more than others. I really can't see it working across a wide enough band to make a difference, especially outdoors. Small amp and a battery pack. Or...ditch the double bass and get a sousaphone 😀

Thing with the double bass rooms is they sell at good prices for buyers ..so I'm guessing not great prices for sellers. Great place tho.

£7 to 8k sounds a bit high tbh; tho "rubner" covers a wide range of qualities and values. The "name" has been sold on a few times and only basses made in the 60s were made by mr rubner. The company was owned by musima in the late 80s. You may need a valuation, bearing in mind that an "insurance valuation" will be a lot more than a potential "sales" price. 1. Put it up on here. 2. Try musicalchairs.info Minimal advertising fees ...but selling can be slow. Dealers will ALWAYS rip 15 to 20% from you for a commission sale and usually find "some work" that needs doing before it can go in their showroom....however, they will also put a top price on it and are more likely to find a buyer. Use a specialist: Turners in Nottingham Thwaites in Watford Tim Toft in Stone T&G Martin in Oxfordshire, maybe. Etc My mum sold my late dad's cello last year. It was worth up to £90k (!!) sold for £85k by a dealer who took 15% and also charged £5k for "renovation". Mum got £73k. Last seen being played at the proms! Anyway, that's how it is with dealers and restorers.

That is going to make most of the classical repertoire "rather difficult" 🤣