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While I sit around waiting for a B/F Midget to come up for sale, I'm researching lightweight, 250/300w 112 cabs. Budget max is £600 for two. Outline specs: Weight max = 12kgs, 250/300W minimum @ 8 ohms, tweeter not necessary, prefer new but good secondhand also OK List so far, in decreasing order of desire; Secondhand B/F Midget New TKS S112 errr Secondhand Tecamp XS112 (I've seen Scooby's for sale ad, thanks) New Fender Rumble 112 I've dropped Mike Walsh a line at Purple Chili to see what he has. I've looked at used Bergs, Epifani, Schroeder, etc but I'm not finding anything that fits within the 250W/12kgs/£300 parameters. Anything I've missed? Steve

I'm happy to pick it up if somebody buys it. Steve

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Just emailed the seller. Apparently, it's sold.

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9 miles from where I live, in case anybody wants me to pick it up for them: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ibanez-blazer-bass-guitar-/141361937368?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Thanks - I'll send the info to our singer. I think it may be a little too complicated for her, but she can make up her own mind.

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Might be interesting if you like the Trace Elliot vibe. http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/trace-elliot-7215-smc-gp7-15-300watt-bass-combo-including-matching-bass-speaker-cabinet/1072733664

Thanks. Looks like the TC Helicon R1 might be just what she's after.

Folks, Normally, our singer uses a dry signal with a touch of reverb via the mixing desk. Yesterday, the venue's PA had no built-in effects and that slightly threw her. She's on the lookout for a simple, straightforward, cheap-but-decent vocal effects unit. In reality, the only thing she really needs is reverb. She does not want or need a pitch controller. Suggestions, please! Thanks, Steve

Having put various points of view forward, and having enjoyed this debate and reading the opinions of others, I felt I had little more of value to contribute, so I was more than happy to move on. However, I feel that I have been misrepresented by Jake's last post and I take exception to being called narrow minded on this topic. This, I feel, needs a response. I have carefully re-read all of my posts and I am genuinely amazed that what I have said has been interpreted as narrow mindedness. My post no 52, for example, seems to me to accept the pros and cons of dots and tabs. @Doddy You say it's no secret that you don't like tab, and in your sig you describe yourself as a "tablature disapproval specialist". Nowhere have I said that I don't like dots and I most certainly wouldn't describe myself as a "dots disapproval specialist". Good grief. I have absolutely no idea what you mean by; "...I think that trying to argue with people like Jake that tab is as useful as notation is kind of a bad idea." I'm happy that I've had my say and contributed to this discussion. I don't feel I have much more I can add, so I don't intend to say much more. That said, I will, if I feel my opinions or views are being misinterpreted or misrepresented. Steve

@ Jakenewmanbass I am very surprised that you suggest I am denying you the freedom to feel how you do about your choices. I cannot find that in any of my posts. You and I have different views on the usefulness of TABS and I've enjoyed the debate. Nowhere have I accused you of narrowness of thinking or stubbornness, and I have certainly not asserted that you should keep your views to yourself. "... if you want to cut it as a professional player then realise what is needed to reach that level. There may well be budding pro's reading these boards." My view would be that was is required to play at a professional level, is to play at a professional level. As long as you produce the goods, does it really matter the process you use to do so? Live and let live, say I. I think I'm done with this now. Steve

Help is at hand! Bass Tabs for Git it here: [url="http://www.bigbasstabs.com/misc_bass_tabs/git_it_from_little_shop_of_horrors.html"]http://www.bigbassta...of_horrors.html[/url] Might save you a bit of time. Don't take the TAB as gospel though - you'll have to listen to the song as well to enable you to play it to the standard required. Still, that will ensure you get pretty familiar with the song.

I'd like to respond to some of Jakenewmanbass' comments about TABS, since I find myself disagreeing with quite a lot of what he says. Apologies for the clumsy quoting - I can't seem to get the Quote system to work. Operator error on my behalf, most like. "Tab can give a limited insight into what notes are used to make a piece of music work." TABs have the facility to give a lot of instrument-specific information about note lengths, bends, hammer-ons, slides, volume changes etc. Please see my post number 36. "Nobody ever did a gig where the music was played first time through from TAB and if you consider that, for eg, a film score orchestra will play a score for recording at sight and get it in one, two or a few takes there is no room for error when the day costs 30 grand." Frequently, my covers band plays a song to a giggable standard after just 1 or 2 rehearsals. We all use instrument-specific TAB systems and our ears to learn our own parts beforehand. For me, that's when TABs are useful. Granted, it doesn't cost us 30 grand a day to hire our rehearsal rooms, but we don't want to spend money unnecessarily. "I can see that it's horses for courses if you aren't working at that [orchestral] level but my inclination would be to say, if you're not going to need to read to play then learn the parts by ear..." And then what? I have trouble remembering the bass parts for our 35-song songlist, so I use TABS to not only help me to learn a bass part, but also to remember it later. "If you're using TAB as a place to get you started then in my view you're making a really important disconnect with the nuance of the process of learning that makes the difference between an estimation and an in depth authentic representation of a line" I treat TABs as a start-point for what I eventually end up playing. I supplement these TABs with a lot of listening and re-TABing to end up with something that's good enough for the music I play and the settings where I play them. That process of finding TABs, listening hard to the music, agreeing/disagreeing with and amending the TABs means I make a strong connection with the music. Furthermore, I am not necessarily aiming for "an in-depth authentic representation of a line" when playing Say you love me at the Dog and Duck. "If you use TAB then in my estimation there is a risk of a half arsed mediocre result because you're only dealing with a small proportion of the info..." I would suggest that exactly the same argument could be put forward for dots as well. Steve

@Ambient - post no 42. Actually, there are TAB systems for lots of instruments that don't have frets. Here are 3 examples Recorder; [url="http://i40.tinypic.com/125nhid.jpg"]http://i40.tinypic.com/125nhid.jpg[/url] Harmonica: [url="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jEfnezCBEVM/TxYxwx_xaYI/AAAAAAAABXM/dj-0L5PhaWU/s1600/photo-794279.jpg"]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jEfnezCBEVM/TxYxwx_xaYI/AAAAAAAABXM/dj-0L5PhaWU/s1600/photo-794279.jpg[/url] Piano: [url="http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/I1jnWz3bSrI/maxresdefault.jpg"]http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/I1jnWz3bSrI/maxresdefault.jpg[/url] It seems to me that such instrument-specific TAB systems can be useful to help somebody play that particular instrument. That's why I use bass TABs. Where they may be limited is when different instruments need to play together, and when players of those different instruments need some sort of common language to coordinate activities. Maybe that's when "dots" may have an advantage and maybe that's why Bilbo finds them useful in his orchestra pit, Ambient's tutor finds them useful for writing and composing for string and brass, and Ambient used them to send some music to an Oboist. All good stuff. Since I don't do any of those things, I'm more than happy to use TABs for the instrument I play. Horses for courses. Each to their own. Live and let live etc Steve

To answer the OP's question directly; "Yes - I think you're wrong." Again. I do get frustrated when people dismiss TABs as being too simplistic. TABs [i]can[/i] give information about note lengths and even muting, bends, pull-offs and volume changes. See the legends here: [url="http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/p/pink_floyd/money_ver2_btab.htm"]http://tabs.ultimate...y_ver2_btab.htm[/url] It's rare to find a TAB written using these legends, however. I don't read dots. When learning a new song, I'll look up the TAB on a number of different websites to get me started. I'll probably end up with something cobbled together from different TABs amended with my own interpretation and playing technique preferences. If I can't find a TAB, I'll start with a chord chart, and a recording and write a TAB for myself. From Bilbo's posts, it seems he works in orchestral pits and finds dots helpful for that. I play in a pub covers band and I use TABS, chord charts, my own notes and my ears. He has a system that works for him and I have a system that works for me. Maybe dots are better when there's a need to share and discuss music with people who play different instruments, and TABs work perfectly well if you don't need to do that. Each to their own. Live and let live. Steve Edited for naff typing skills.

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