Chienmortbb

I have just been noodling through the original 8" using the Fane 8-225, the one that sparked the idea of a BC108. It made me smile. It was designed to go with the modified After Eight combo (RIP) as @Phil Starrwill tell you, it was far from the ideal shape, being roughly a cube.

As the Compact Mixer thread either seems to cover Allen & Heath CQ series or Behringer X Series mixers, when either is being discussed, it is of little interest to owners of the other. So this thread is for the Behringer X series, although discussions of the Wing series are also welcome.

As the Compact Mixer thread either seems to cover Allen & Heath CQ series or Behringer X Series mixers, when either is being discussed, it is of little interest to owners of the other. This thread is aimed at the A&H CQ Series, CQ12.CQ18 and CQ20 but mentions of the SQ series are welcome.

Me too. First Impressions, Mesa fan much quieter, Voicing control is nice at home volumes, as is the Deep control. Price difference? Mesa is 4 times the price and I will comment on that after Ihave had more time with it. Here is a review from 2020 https://www.guitarworld.com/reviews/mesaboogie-subway-d-800-head-and-ultra-lite-cabs

I finally dug deep and bought a Mesa D800 from a fellow Basschatter. He lived about 5 miles away, so it was an easy deal. I did not need another head, I already have two, but when did that stop any of us? I will do a more in depth review once I have gigged it, but here are my first thoughts? This was designed by an Engineer, nothing fancy about it. Built in a plain steel box, very black. Switching it on revealed an always on fan that was very quiet. Setting all the controls to 12 o'clock gives a pleasant sound, but the magic happens when you turn the voicing control. Some really nice tones at house volumes. The Deep control also sounds good, better than similar controls on other amps. I did not turn it up, but I know how loud that ICEPower module can go, and it seems Mesa have squeezed a few more watts from it. Only time will tell if my money was well spent, but initial impressions are good.

I realise that it is a bit late, but if all my stuff were stolen, I would happily use the Bugera. It uses the same amp and circuitry as the 10001M head. To me that is a bargain and the only downside is that with a 15" speaker, the dispersion and top end would be a little compromised. The 12 is more expensive but IMHO a better buy.

I am buying from a company.

Happy just to talk bass really, do not want to talk politics on here but thought I was answering a question sensibly. As an Engineer, admittedly retired, I deal in numbers and measurements so have to put people right when I see errors. Even on bass related matters I find it hard when people stick to myths rather than physics.

I blame Trump!

Fans get a bad rap but without them our heads ( amps not real heads) would be much bigger and heavier. On the ESP Audio Pages it is reckoned that a well placed fan can improve heat dissipation by 4 times. So the heatsink could be reduced in size and weight to 1/4 of passively cooled heatsinks. Many of the amps I see have less that ideal fan cooling. I have just got a Mesa D800 and the fan in that is always on but very quiet. I have yet to use it at a gig or rehearsal though. The truth is that if you want small and light, you need fan assisted cooling.

Thanks, when something hacks you off it is easy to slip into cliches or sound bites so in order to clarify: The Office of Budget Responsibility, the UK Government’s financial watchdog calculates that leaving the EU cost us 4% of GDP that would be somewhere between £20-30 billion. For me I pay more VAT (UK is 20%, Germany is 19%), twice the paperwork as well as a customs processing fee.

Panasonic UK developed a system over the years that worked well, not perfectly but well. Head office in Osaka Japan decided all subsidiaries should go to SAP. The result back to paper for 69% of processes. Total chaos for three months by which time many got hacked off and left.

Nothing lasts any more🤪

This is a way to reduce the life of your amp. A better fan will reduce the noise, and it is unlikely that the fan fitted to your amp is the best. However, most "low noise fans" achieve the low noise level, at least in part, by reducing the fan voltage and hence the speed. This also reduces the air flow.

Not too shabby at all.