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Everything posted by Chienmortbb
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My point is that that includes labour and profit .
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I always make my own but made the mistake of reusing a cable that someone else had discarded. I put Amphenol connectors on each end and the unbranded cable went open circuit circuit on me on Thursday. ironically it was an ultra flexible cable and I don’t usually use those. Anyway I have ordered a number of cut length cables, both OEM and Sommer to evaluate. I will report back shortly.
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Designa cables look too good to be true for my liking. I am not sure you could make any money using Neutrik/Van Damme for those prices.
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The SM212 was used in Phil Starr's 30 litre cab and works surprisingly well, but the last time we discussed it, he said a 35 litre cab would probably be better. Also look at the cone excursion graphs and air velocity. As a rule, try for sub 20 on air velocity.
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Stevie’s 12” FRFR Cab Build Thread (Basschat Cab v3)
Chienmortbb replied to funkle's topic in Amps and Cabs
We should probably put them on the builds forum. -
I would agree Klotz and Neutrik are good choices but for cable, Sommer and Mogami are also excellent. For plugs I use either Neutrik or Amphenol. Both have good cable support. Switchcaft have a good reputation but I don’t like there cable support. I would also steer clear of any cable that uses sealed plugs or where the plug is shrouded with heat shrink.
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Easy on the boy Phil, reading both of those is like doing two marathons back to back.
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One other thing to consider, where are you? Eminence are cheaper in the USA but expensive here in the UK. Beyma and Faital Pro are less expensive in the UK. I could not say with Celestion.
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Phil may not say it but I believe the SM212 from Beyma would be his choice based on several years design and gigging experience. The new Faital Pro FR320 is Stevie’s choice. One trick with WINisd is to set the power ( in the signal section) to the rated power of the driver. Then look at the maximum power graph. You will see some interesting things.
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I hope they improve the aesthetics, they probably are prototypes and they really look like it.
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Quite a lot because whatever class of power amp or topology is used, the power supply has a great influence on performance.
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Could also be the soundguy. When I got my amp I had the DI switched to line level, the sound guy at our weekly gig said TOO HOT. Switched it to mic level and all was fun for about 6 weeks. The he said, “I am getting almost nothing from your DI)”. Switched back to Line and all was right with the world. Three months later...,, you guessed it back to Line level. Oh and myold amp had only a line level. He said that was too hot. So I bought a DI that had mic level output. It is still on my pedal board and has been used only once...
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Anyone tilt the top cab in a stack for monitoring purposes? And how?
Chienmortbb replied to DylanB's topic in Amps and Cabs
I remember that from a thread a couple of years ago. It is a great idea, as tilting cabs does not make for a good platform for a head. However it does take up a lot of room on the floor ( I won’t say anything about the cabinets). -
No I mean not saying the TH350 was poorly designed. Just that to achieve such a small package, there have to be some compromises. It may also be the case that Aguilar’s marketing wanted to differentiate between the TH350 and the TH500. They do use different power units, the TH500 uses the 250ASX2 while the TH350 uses the 125ASX2 modules, I am not sure whether the TH500 always had two fans, something in my head says it only had one at the start but don’t quote me on that as I might be confusing them with GK.
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The TH350 uses the 125ASX2 module and that will will give 450+ watts into 4ohms IF cooled correctly. It will also give around 250 into 8R. I suspect it is derated by Aguilar as the box is too small for adequate cooling. That being said it should be loud enough power any of the cabinets mentioned.
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TRACE ELLIOT BLX-80:- minimum speaker load?
Chienmortbb replied to BassManGraham's topic in Amps and Cabs
That’s the one. -
Anyone tilt the top cab in a stack for monitoring purposes? And how?
Chienmortbb replied to DylanB's topic in Amps and Cabs
Of course, with the horn in either orientation, it can only direct the frequencies that are already there. I think the rotation of the horn vertical is the cherry on the cake. -
I can see where you are coming from and with a decent PA and Sound-guy, I agree. However most of us weekend warriors don’t have the benefit of a good PA and good sound-guys are even rarer. Our drummer runs the PA and usually brings two Mackie Thump 15s. In my opinion these are inferior to my bass cab, an early version of the Basschat 1x12. In fact, and again it is my opinion, any PA Top on a pole used without a sub. Is inferior, especially if the “sound-guy” is also playing in the band. I see a lot of semi-pro bands and in general, those that use backline sound better to me than those that put everything through an inadequate PA.
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Anyone tilt the top cab in a stack for monitoring purposes? And how?
Chienmortbb replied to DylanB's topic in Amps and Cabs
This is exactly the problem that Stevie addresses with the BC 1x12 design. By using the horn vertically instead of horizontally you hear more of the mids even end standing in front of the cab. https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/347017-stevie’s-12”-frfr-cab-build-thread-basschat-cab-v3/page/6/#comments -
Stevie’s 12” FRFR Cab Build Thread (Basschat Cab v3)
Chienmortbb replied to funkle's topic in Amps and Cabs
Phil is 100% correct. I think the other thing to stress is that an HPF helps with the headroom of an amp. Also slapping sounds better when used with a compressor. As for the amount of treble available from the cabinet, you will soon get used to it and miss it when you try other cabs. Those with a simple crossover to a piezoelectric tweeter will sound really harsh. That is not to say that Piezo’s sound harsh. It is often the way they are used. -
Stevie’s 12” FRFR Cab Build Thread (Basschat Cab v3)
Chienmortbb replied to funkle's topic in Amps and Cabs
Firstly this is general advice and not specifically aimed at this cab. Really low frequencies muddy the sound and use vast amounts of amplifier power as well as over exerting the bass driver. So Don't use any sort of low bass boost such as an octaver Don't use too much bass control on the amp. Don't use too much bass on any onboard pre-amp (does not apply to passive basses). The best way is to use an HPF. Some amps have an HPF built in but there are some good external ones available. In my opinion you need one the operates about 30-35Hz and with a 24dB per octave slope. One often mentioned is the Thumpinator. My only worry is that there are no specs on any of the models. However they do seem to work. FDeck on the other site, has a few designs and they are very versatile. Some multi effects units have them but the slope is usually too small. I think maybe I should do a separate thread on HPFs. As a rule of thumb, any needed frequencies will move the cone too fast for you to see. So if you see large s;ow come moveent, that is the stuff we want to avoid. -
Stevie’s 12” FRFR Cab Build Thread (Basschat Cab v3)
Chienmortbb replied to funkle's topic in Amps and Cabs
As Phil says, in a ported cabinet,below the tuning frequency the speaker is uncontrolled and will move a large amount for a few watts. Not only can this be dangerous, with the excursion approaching XLimit/XDamage but when the Voice coil is beyond the magnet, any signal has no effect on the cone, but still heats up the voice coil. So apart from potential causing damage to the driver, you could also be adding a lot of distortion to your sound. The extra heat may also contribute to power compression. As with most resistors, the voicecoil’s resistance rises as it heats up and it heats up with power. This could reduce the acoustic output by 3 dB or more. That has the effect of halving your output power. -
TRACE ELLIOT BLX-80:- minimum speaker load?
Chienmortbb replied to BassManGraham's topic in Amps and Cabs
The BLX range features a little used tuning system and not all speakers will benefit from it. I am sure someone on here will be able to tell you the correct speaker. I believe they used Celestion drivers from memory. There was an extension cabinet for the BLX130 but that was a conventional cabinet and did not feature the Slot port at all. -
Stevie’s 12” FRFR Cab Build Thread (Basschat Cab v3)
Chienmortbb replied to funkle's topic in Amps and Cabs
That is a powerful amp and it can clearly push the cabinet to and beyond its limits. However it must have been incredibly loud when you turned it up. I was testing my MK 2 once with the grille off. Heard a horrible noise when plaint Open E. The guitar cable had twisted and was testing on the cone! As for the 3012LF, the clue is in the LF. It is a low frequency driver with not much above 2kHz. In addition the peak above 1.5KHz is nasty. In not opinion it needs to cross over well before 1.5KHz. -
On a tangential note (try playing one of those), how do you find the Roto Flats?