Chienmortbb

I bought this a few weeks ago and was about to write a review. I love it I will do it on another thread but in short. It has a 34" scale length and although it looks like hollow body, it is actually has a solid body with hollow chambers. The top and bottom are stuck on to that the finish is excellent and the only thing I had to do to it was replace the strings and lower the action. The pickup is a "Duncan Designed" that is made to Seymour Duncan Specs in the far east. The preamp is a two band Duncan affair and features Volume, Bass, Treble and Blend. I will fill everything else in the NBD thread.

I have to say that although I do not get a good sound many great players do. So is the Jazz a great bass? The best are. As for P/J basses. I have one and the I believe that the sound go the P pickup is affected by the J Volume pot. It is in parallel so effectively reduces the value of the P Pickup Volume control. All P/Js should have a 3 way switch IMHO.

As above, what do you think are the most important effects for bassists? Which 2 could you not live without? I have allowed multiple choices and added some more options

[quote name='Gottastopbuyinggear' timestamp='1478955447' post='3172930'] Oddly enough I was thinking of posting the very same question, this being a song we currently play. I'd assumed it was some form of filter effect, though I have no experience of such effects at all. There was a thread on here recently about filter effects that go down rather than up - in my mind that sounded like the sort of thing it needs, but that's a wild guess! [/quote]I think I need to change my username to something like yours. Maybe I will look on "The Other Place"

[quote name='casapete' timestamp='1432282620' post='2779919'] Had a 410TX for a few years. Great sounding cab,stupid value for the money etc just felt like it was bolted to the floor. Used it with a Trace 500 and it never struggled at all. I can never understand how some companies can charge so much for a cabinet that has say Eminence speakers in it, however 'special' the design. Think Peavey made their own drivers so I guess it could have been economy of scale and bargain chipboard! Even so, think mine was £219 new, when others with not dissimilar specs were three or four times the price. Crazy. [/quote]The driver is one one aspect of the design. The cabinet is as much if not more, that is why some of the boutique makers charge so much. Add to that they are made in the developed world, not the far east and in many cases are pushing the designs, and supporting the customer, in ways that major manufacturers are not. And of course if you don't like the price but the cheaper one.

Watts are precisely defined when it comes to DC power. 1 watt is 1 watt. In fact a watt is well defined for AC power. 1 watt is 1 watt. As an Electronic Engineer that spent some time in a Marketing Departmet I can tell you that every branch of electronics has one Parameter that is stressed above all others. One that does not give you a clue as to how it will perform. For projectors it is Lumens for amplifiers it is Watts. Then the scary marketeers get hold of the spec, add Little Red Riding Hood, Goldilocks and Mother Goose and suddenly we know not what is fantasy and what is truth. So I agree with you that watts do not mean much when applied to amplifiers. This is because they need several qualifiers to make the figure meaningful. Also remember that model numbers are not power specs. TC model numbers deliberately decieve by giving a "wattage" in the model number that is far higher than they can achieve. They are by no means the only ones. Oh and did someone mention heft? When I can measure it I will believe it exists. Yes I am tired, slightly unwell and fractious.

[quote name='pmjos' timestamp='1478887551' post='3172519'] Update. My F112 arrives Sunday. I have decided it somewhat unfashionably to pair it with a Warwick LWA1000. I decided on the Warwick because firstly it provides the power secondly its not 'ice' equipped and has an honest RMS output, thirdly twin channels as I play EUB and bass G, finally I always liked Warwick amps. I will report. [/quote]Not ICE equipped? However it is class D! Do you know what power section is inside?

[quote name='pmjos' timestamp='1478887551' post='3172519'] Update. My F112 arrives Sunday. I have decided it somewhat unfashionably to pair it with a Warwick LWA1000. I decided on the Warwick because firstly it provides the power secondly its not 'ice' equipped and has an honest RMS output, thirdly twin channels as I play EUB and bass G, finally I always liked Warwick amps. I will report. [/quote]Not ICE equipped? However it is class D! Do you know what power section is inside?

Anyone know how to get it? Sounds like a clipped bass synth to me but I am a novice with effects.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1478689494' post='3170907'] The ST is a great cab but the difference between an amp running at 8 ohms and the same amp running at 4 ohms isn't that noticeable. The 2 12's will add a lot of tone and volume over a 112. [/quote]That of course is very true. However tunnimg at 4 will give you and extra 3 dB and two 12s is 6 dB louder than 1 at the same power. So your real gain is over 9dB. So if you turn the volume up it will sound a lot louder than the same amp running a single 8R 12.

[quote name='deksawyer' timestamp='1478343215' post='3168491'] The original D800 has a built in, albeit fixed HPF. Why would it need to be adjustable? IMO, they should have added a compressor instead of the variable HPF. Much more useful.... D. [/quote]An HPF serves two purposes, one to limit cone excursion outside of the usefull frequency range of the speaker cabinet. As each speaker is different, a variable is best. It can also help tame a boomy room in a way that rolling off the bass may not.

[quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1478464932' post='3169246'] Could you not feed the monitors from the PA? [/quote]I could but I would have to take a feed that included other instruments or vocals and of course others are happy with their monitor feeds. Also the monitor will be a combo amp so volume control is not a problem.

Nice review Kev. To me it was very useful as you compared it to Berg and other 12s over the year. As others have said, Barefaced cannot cheat Physics but by good design and novel use of established techniques they can make cabinets that compare with anything else on the market. Like others, I hope you continue the thread with your future experience.

Can I use a BDI21 to feed the pa and a stage monitor at the ssme time?

I seem to remember that the speaker gurus at Trace lived the "sound" of MDF over ply. Maybe that preference transferred to Ashdown?

Underhang is fine

That is a tidy rig. It looks as though it means business.

Stevie is right, the driver only arrived last week and we have yet to get the driver and cabinet together. For me there are two goals, two must into my car boot and they must be as light as possible. Of course having said that I realise that I need to measure my boot. I have just gone from a Freelander to a littl Suzuki and space is tight. As Stevie says the revised driver still works well in the original design and if you need one soon, build that one. I suspect it will be some time before any revisions are done to the design, if there are any. Finally thanks to Stevie and Phil. They have so much knowledge and they give us so much of their time.

Stevie is right, the driver only arrived last week and we have yet to get the driver and cabinet together. For me there are two goals, two must into my car boot and they must be as light as possible. Of course having said that I realise that I need to measure my boot. I have just gone from a Freelander to a littl Suzuki and space is tight. As Stevie says the revised driver still works well in the original design and if you need one soon, build that one. I suspect it will be some time before any revisions are done to the design, if there are any. Finally thanks to Stevie and Phil. They have so much knowledge and they give us so much of their time.

Nice Charlie. I think you are OK with Basschat's rules as you are not making any money from it.

[quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1478174679' post='3167255'] Nice, but the Magellan has the influence of the main ex-Genz engineer and is £400 cheaper... [/quote]That is much nicer looking than the D800 and if you buy an HPF for about £100 you are sorted.

I have just bought one of the new spec SM212 speakers. Phil has. Modelled a good response in a 30 litre box and also that is works well in a sealed box. I confirmed the results of Phil's modelling and have briefly tried out sealed and mis-tuned cabinets. The mistimed cab had a 4db peak at 120Hz and sounded surprisingly good. The sealed cab was good too but I missed the syrupy sound of the ported cab. It is too early to be sure but it looks like a tiny cab can be produced with this driver. My table saw and jigsaw are at my daughter's house at the moment so I cannot build trial cabs at the moment. However if Stevie reads this, you can have the driver for 10-14 days for testing if you would like. PM me!

And it has the most important control of all, a High Pass Filter

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1477920614' post='3165247'] Like me, you are obviously not a good bass player. [/quote]In the "other forum" there is Mediocre bassist club. Are we in danger of forming one here? Sadly I think I would be eligible for membership.

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1477992955' post='3165725'] 22lbs = 10Kg. [/quote]My point is that lbs are only used by Americans and proud parents in the UK. I apologise for being a pedant.