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Whenever I am not gigging, I watch an "act" every Saturday at the Wheeltappers, and invariably the "Solo Singers" use the miniature line array plus sub arrangement. Again, invariably,the bass thumps out in an unpleasant way. IT reminds me of when my mum got her first Colour TV. The Colour ( Saturation) was turn up as high as it goes. I worked in the broadcast industry at the time and tried to explain that it did not look natural, her reply was, " I paid for colour and I will have as much as I can".

The CQ20 is the A&H mixer you should have looked at. The XR18 is cheaper and is expandable and could be all you need. The thing that put me off the Behringers is the WiFi. It is truly unusable, as is that of the Soundcraft UI series without an external router (I have owned one of each). The CQ18/20 are much more robust.

The one thing I envy on the CQ18T is the the assignable knobs. Is it built like a tank like the CQ20?

If you simulate the effects of an HPF, 40Hz or even 45Hz will not really alter your sound.

We won't ask and will try not to imagine.

I was thinking that the random bass playing from the hall was louder than I was for some of the time Random may be too kind for some of our playing...

I had a Zoom Q4N-4K at the bash but I left the Micro SD Card in my PC at home DOH!

I have had to change my password at least once per day for weeks, maybe months. Sometimes I get away with it for two days then have to change it once or twice per day. Has anyone else had these problems?

I think this is a historic argument, in the early days, Behringer did me-too versions of famous pedals but they have been innovating in Digital Mixing for example for some years. When you look at the brands now in the Music Tribe portfolio, you might expect changes to many of Behringer's product ranges.

Yes we know that the room is very boomy.

I chose the CQ20 for a number of things, firstly the fact that is used mainly XLR for the inputs and outputs. I hate TRS for audio. Also I already had a Soundcraft UI16, so was quite used to a tablet only control system. The other thing was that the size of the CQ20 is smaller than it looks in the pictures. However I can see why you would want the screen on the CQ18 if coming from a board with sliders.

In my opinion, the EVOX and the 745s were very close on the acoustic track and it was only the guitar sound on the Wishbone Ash track that really made a difference to me, I grew up with WA and the sound through various HiFi systems is ingrained in my memory. In saying that I always say that the ears have no memory so take that with a pinch of salt. I have also heard Phil's ART 310s on a separate occasion and agree that I would be happy to gig with any of them for vocals only or putting most of the band through the PA the big issue that both @Phil Starrand @Woodinblack highlight in different ways is that a misused SUB can spoil any sound.

They are just about fully programmable.

To be fair I thought the EVOX handled things pretty well but the guitars in the Wishbone Ash track were how I remember them on the 745s. If I had to carry them, the EVOX would win hands down, or is that hands up?

This is exactly the sound I hess as t from other sub on a stick systems and in the hall it was the guitar sound on the Wishbone Ash song that really showed the difference. The EVOX could not match the 745. This was not what I was expecting as I considered the Evox to be the best of these systems. As @Phil Starrand @stevie have said, it is the compression driver/horn combination that sets the best from the rest.

There will be an HPF on the phone and YouTube will add some compression. As I was stood behind the phone/camera I can say that what I heard on the video was quite close to what went on in the hall. My other comments, the ART 310s were a long way apart and it did notice when walking around the room, The ART745s were better than the EVOX "Sun ob a stick" and the ART 310s but the difference was not as much as I expected. The EVOX was very close to the 745 and based on this short shootout, was probably the best "tea chest bass" system I have heard. To clarify I have heard Bose, Yamaha, LD Systems and all three have a nasty mid range that spoil the vocal sound, although this could be the wetware and/or crappy wireless mics in use.,rather than the system. YMMV

I left the Micro SD card in my laptop so could not use the Zoom. The recording was done on my phone.

Yes. Alder Body rather than Basswood and P neck rather than J. Fender rip off of Fender Japan design.

Didn’t he give his name to a copy of the Fender Aerodyne?

Here is the video of the PA cab Shootout at the Bass Bash yesterday.

OK it is up, no editing just the raw footage as it happened.

I don't think they are.

Me too as I speak.

The video of the cab build is uploading as I type. I will post the link this afternoon.

On a serious note, the videos of both the 8” cab build and the PA shootout will be online later today.