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If I was buying an acoustic instrument, like a double bass or a quality acoustic guitar, I would expect to hear the difference the wood makes. But electric bass guitars? Do me a favour. Strings and pickups and amplification are much more important, and you will pay a lot less for those.

I don't have a regular gig on my DB so instead I'm taking it out busking with a guitarist/singer friend of mine, I also contribute harmony vocals. It's good fun and definitely good practice, you have to play bloody loud though if you're not taking amplification.

[quote name='Beedster' post='1317545' date='Jul 26 2011, 07:51 PM']Having had to do some work on Jam songs recently, I can confirm that there are in fact at least four Jam tracks from which Macca nicked that line [/quote] It's definitely in To Be Someone as well. Thieving scouse git.

[quote name='Muzz' post='1316825' date='Jul 26 2011, 11:38 AM']They can certainly look nice... [/quote] Yeah it's funny how people buy 'tone woods' based on how good they look.

Hey Jake. I recently strung my bass with Silver Slaps and while I really like the tension for slapping I'm finding them a little bit loose for pizz. I thought about getting the Super Silvers but nobody here had any opinion of them so I stuck with the Slaps, how much different would you say the tension is?

OK. Well I paid £60 for my pickup so thankfully I haven't wasted any money there... I would like to see a longer shot of you to see how this stand works out with your right arm and the body of the bass. I just can't imagine that working for me at all. I used to have an old stand that could be adjusted with one hand. It had a heavy circular bass and the telescoping upper half seemed to have a pneumatic action or something. Worked well but it was heavy as hell. Bit like this one: [url="http://www.radiotronics.co.uk/item.php?partcode=P657B"]http://www.radiotronics.co.uk/item.php?partcode=P657B[/url]

I just use a 58 on a boom stand, just like I do when I'm playing bass guitar. I don't think I could use a straight stand at all to be honest.

I didn't listen to it all but I liked a lot of what I heard. I don't usually go for bass solos much but that had plenty of interesting moments. And no slapping, which is a big plus.

Went out and busked for a couple of hours this afternoon and I was glad I put these strings on - my two picking fingers are pretty sore all over and the steels would've made matters much worse. I think they sound better on my bass than the steels did too. They were a bit wolfy in the lower regions but these are more open sounding. And slapped they sound great, exactly the sort of sound I wanted. Thanks again guys.

Wow that sounds like a serious bit of kit. Would love to try one.

I used to do it on a couple of old-school sounding rocksteady numbers, so I could mute with my palm, but in the end I just stuck foam under the strings instead. It does sound nice though especially with flatwounds.

If it will be the only pedal at your feet, I would go with the Visual Sound pedal. The Ernie Balls are passive and you might find your tone degrades due to cable capacitance when you have a longer cable run (one from bass to the pedal, one back to the amp, anything over 20ft you'll probably start notice treble content disappearing from your sound), whereas Visual Sound put quality buffers in everything they make, which will help keep your bass sound intact. Of course if you already have other pedals - any one of which is permanently in your signal path and isn't true-bypass - then you don't need to consider buffering, it's already happening.

[quote name='thebrig' post='1311783' date='Jul 21 2011, 05:16 PM']It's just that I think I read somewhere that the neck pocket on a Squier was a bit shallower, and could cause problems when upgrading the neck.[/quote] I haven't measured anything but I have a Fender and a standard Squier Jazz next to eachother on the stand behind me and they look to have the same depth pocket. The Fender's body is thicker but it looks like the neck pockets are the same. Edit: Actually having looked closer I think the Squier has the deeper neck pocket. It's maybe 2 or 3mm deeper than the Fender. So yeah if you put a Fender neck on it you might find it's too low to set up unless you use a big shim.

[quote name='TimR' post='1312160' date='Jul 21 2011, 10:58 PM']I'm still not clear.......[/quote] Maybe looking up the definition of 'instance' would help. An 'instance' is a single something of a given type. Instantiation is the creation of an instance. In programming, you often define a set of values and the methods that are used to manipulate those values as a cohesive programming unit, and when you need to do some calculations for a set of data of that type, you create an 'instance' of your programming unit to do the job. The code you wrote is just a template for how those things are done, but when it's given an actual set of data to do it with, that is an 'instance', and that initialisation activity would be called instantiation. Edit: Just looked at the article. I guess 'Eleven' is an amp modelling simulation, so when he talks about an 'instantiation' of Eleven, it's because he could have several of them running if he wanted to, and each could be doing something different. That's a better example than my example.

[quote name='RhysP' post='1311988' date='Jul 21 2011, 08:02 PM']That's a lot of trouble to got to for such a sh*te bass sound.[/quote] He learned everything he knows from John Entwistle.

I'm also going to have to rein in my picking, I am destroying these weedy little things! Hopefully I'll get used to the lower volume of them soon, I think I'm over-compensating a bit.

Yes I did, I've spent the last 12 months very slowly and gradually recovering from it an I still get the occasional mild flare-up and I have to be careful about over-use. I hadn't considered that benefit actually, very good point. The weird thing is the surface of the string though, it's not at all smooth, feels very weird under my fingers. Hopefully they'll smooth off over time as I play them?

Well I got the Slaps on just now. First impressions - how weird they are! The finish is very odd, feels like playing shoelaces, do they get less fabric-feeling eventually? I think I like the tension but it's taking some getting used to, I keep missing the A on my way down from the D. I recorded my bass this morning (using a pickup and mic) before they arrived so I could do a decent comparison once I'd restrung it and I got a really good sound from the evahs and spiros, made me wonder why I was bothering to be honest! These definitely sound better slapped than the steels did and they are much easier to slap too, but they will also need to produce a great pizz sound to stay on the bass. I'm going to thrash it a bit to settle the strings in and then go record with the same setup and see how an A/B test sounds.

Colour is one of the most important considerations if you're going to use it live. I don't know what Sage Green looks like but if you like it then buy it. It's cheaper to improve the sound of a bass than it is to make it a nicer colour.

[quote name='Kirky' post='1310619' date='Jul 20 2011, 06:01 PM']Great instrument - I'd love to have a go. Tried the tablas recently - unbelievably difficult to play properly.[/quote] I would love to be able to play tablas, amazing sound.

[quote name='EdwardHimself' post='1310409' date='Jul 20 2011, 03:15 PM']Well that's what you implied, seeing as you suggested that without the force from the thumb of the fretting hand there would be no opposing forces to the action of the fretting finger whatsoever. I really do not see how your original post could possibly be interpreted in any other way.[/quote] Obviously. Anyway, now the O.P. will not be left to wonder how we all magically hover our bass necks whilst fretting notes. Hey, perhaps we can all have our left thumbs surgically removed so they don't get in the way of the heel joint in high positions. It's not like we're using it for anything, right?

Hey man, fingering is what you do with the other hand - stopping notes behind the frets. Picking is what you do with the hand that's down near the bridge. As for the Stingrays... I wouldn't buy a 2-pickup bass just to have somewhere to put my thumb. I wouldn't worry about it too much - the pickup on a Stingray isn't as close to the bridge as it looks, the ovoid pickguard and 21-fret neck make it look closer to the bridge than it actually is.

[quote name='EdwardHimself' post='1310367' date='Jul 20 2011, 02:50 PM']No. You asked where the equal and opposite force came from. I answered that question, you answered that question and now you're telling me you didn't ask that question in the first place.[/quote] I asked where the force was coming from, I didn't state that it had to come from the thumb of the fretting hand. Your last two posts seem to represent two different understandings of what the topic of conversation is. I would now recommend you review the entire thread before posting again, paying specific attention to your own replies which are beginning to diverge in baffling ways.

[quote name='EdwardHimself' post='1310064' date='Jul 20 2011, 10:45 AM']Well there you go. You've clearly contradicted your original point that it's not physically possible to fret a note without any pressure from your thumb. Yes you could use the force of your other hand as well.[/quote] I think we've had issues before where you hadn't read my posts properly. I would recommend - again - you go back and read it again.

[quote name='EdwardHimself' post='1309445' date='Jul 19 2011, 05:55 PM']F is the fretting force of the finger. This force is opposed by N1 which is the force of the players body on the body of the bass. T is the tension in the strap which opposes the moment effect of the fingering force (the pivot point is where force N1 is acting). P is the friction of the strap on the back of the player's body which opposes T in the x-direction and N2 is the player's body pushing on the strap at the back which allows friction to occur.[/quote] Good luck with that. I would imagine the force is actually coming from your picking hand levering the bass neck into your fretting hand. I appreciate that not much force is required to stop a note on the bass and some people might over-do it, but this business about not using any pressure at all from your thumb is nonsense.