Dubs

Bought a compressor off Oli. I PayPalled the money over to him yesterday and the pedal arrived today – now that’s service! The compressor works great as well. Cheers mate

Bought a SansAmp off Beedster – great communication, great price, great pedal, and on top of that it arrived exactly when he said it would! Cheers mate

[quote name='Toasted' post='387734' date='Jan 21 2009, 04:59 PM']Infact, if you bought Umcoo's Virtual Battery from this thread: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=38768"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=38768[/url] That would solve your problem and you could keep your xBSW.[/quote] I might give that a go – when I’m using it with a 9V battery it’s fine, so I guess this would solve it and mean that I don’t have to fork out for an NS2. Cheers for the help mate. Nothing else seems to fix it.

Get yourself a Warwick rockbass - amazing value for money. Look out for a single pickup 4 string Streamer Std Rockbass on ebay - right on your budget and a great player for the money. I can't think of a better bass for under £200.

[quote name='artisan' post='387640' date='Jan 21 2009, 04:00 PM']hammer----nail----head [/quote] that sounds painful

[quote name='TheBrokenDoor' post='387575' date='Jan 21 2009, 02:52 PM']Are you using a lid when transporting? This looks a million times better than my last attempt (mdf and nails!!!) Dan[/quote] I was thinking about making some sort of lid for it with detachable hinges and butterfly locks, but I’m gonna see how it goes and see how hard it is to transport it as it is. I’ve still not committed to this as an all purpose alternative to my Pod XT Live though

[quote name='Toasted' post='387376' date='Jan 21 2009, 12:16 PM']Also, it's worth noting that I know of at least two other BC'ers (Higgie and Tayste) who have used xBSW's without noise on a daisy chain connection. There's always the possibility you have a "[b]Friday afternoon special[/b]" [/quote] Damn. I'm sure my old one didn't hiss either. I just tried it on its own and it didn’t hiss. Maybe it’s something to do with the order the way the pedals are set up and the order that the daisy chain powers the pedals – maybe if I put it at the end of the chain it will be ok? I’ll try some things out later on, but I’ve got to shoot off for something now so I don’t have the time to investigate further. At least I’ve narrowed it down to 1 pedal and there are potential solutions…

[quote name='Toasted' post='387361' date='Jan 21 2009, 12:03 PM']Ok, plug all the pedals up into the chain you intend to use. Then, one at a time take out the power connector of each pedal and see if the hiss goes. Plug it back in and try the next. There's a possibility that one pedal might be inducing noise into one of ther others. (Echo Parks are famous for this for example).[/quote] ahh man, I’ve just found the culprit – DigiTech Synth Wah. That little green bastard. It was exactly what you said. Looks like that’s the one that I’d have to put in the gated loop then, but only if the NS2 would allow the rest of the chain to effectively be bypassed. Cheers for the help mate [quote name='umph' post='387364' date='Jan 21 2009, 12:04 PM']do you have lots of bufferedbypass pedals?[/quote] I think the Synth Wah has a buffered bypass doesn’t it? I guess this just highlights to me how advantageous true bypass really is.

[quote name='Toasted' post='387327' date='Jan 21 2009, 11:31 AM']Ooh, that's not good. It shouldn't be noisy, although I have some ideas about what might be making it noisy. If you take it out of your chain does the noise go away completely? What power supply are you using?[/quote] Ok, so it turns out that it’s probably not the fuzzface (I've just tried a few different things) – yesterday I removed it from the chain and the hiss seemed to go away so I assumed it was that. Today it’s fine on its own and has a completely silent bypass, and within the chain it makes no difference; the hiss is there with or without it. I’ve removed each pedal one by one from the chain and the hiss isn’t coming from any one of them but just seems to be a consequence of linking the pedals together – as well as this, none of the pedals are producing a hiss when I’ve soloed them in a small chain going from my bass, into the pedal, and then straight into the amp. None of them make any sort of hiss when I do this. The power supply I’m using is this - [url="http://www.effectpowersupplies.com/9v-dc-regulated-power-supply-with-integrated-6-way-daisy-chain-2-p.asp"]http://www.effectpowersupplies.com/9v-dc-r...y-chain-2-p.asp[/url] - and I’ve tried it in a few different sockets and doesn’t make a difference. The electrics in the house are good cos they were all changed about 8 or 10 years ago. I’ve just tried a few other things and none of them worked, so now I’m completely f***ed if I can figure out what’s going on. :wacko: Yours faithfully, Confused in Portsmouth.

[quote name='Toasted' post='387310' date='Jan 21 2009, 11:19 AM']I believe so. I'll do some reading and come back to you. Is the noisy pedal this "carbon" one? [/quote] No. Unfortunately it’s the fuzzface that I got off you – it’s really puzzling me though cos it’s a true bypass but hisses like a mother f***er at the moment. I’ve not spent the time looking at it yet to troubleshoot… The ‘Carbon’ has a really quiet circuit and also has a built in gate. I guess you could call the “drive” control the “wool” control :ph34r:

[quote name='Stylon Pilson' post='387297' date='Jan 21 2009, 11:10 AM']You don't want it sticking out at the back. You want to keep the footprint rectangular for transit. I'd be looking into ways of using the space underneath the board. S.P.[/quote] That’s a good shout. I’ll think of something if it becomes an issue after using it for a month or so.

[quote name='Toasted' post='387205' date='Jan 21 2009, 09:54 AM']I *really* wouldn't recommend a Noise Supressor or Gate or anything like that. You need to be keeping as much of your original tone as possible IMHO. You have decent basses and decent amps, there's no point putting something in the chain that takes that away. 1) What power supply are you using? 2) What is your signal chain? 3) Where are you getting power from?[/quote] I don’t think it would be that bad and it shouldn’t really affect my tone at all. What I’m planning on doing is something like this: [attachment=19018:chain.JPG] Basically I’d have the noisy pedal on a separate loop via the NS2 and I’d set the threshold so that you could only hear the noisy pedal when it was activated and when it is activated you can’t hear the noise because it’s a quite aggressive fuzz pedal. Does this make sense? What I want to do is basically have the rest of my chain bypassed and only have 1 pedal gated – does the NS2 allow me to do this?

[quote name='Toasted' post='387210' date='Jan 21 2009, 09:58 AM']That turned out really well, well done [/quote] Thanks mate

[quote name='leschirons' post='387025' date='Jan 20 2009, 11:47 PM']I see what you're getting at though but even the most thrifty and sensible among us would be straight on the phone to Fodera [size=5][b]or[/b][/size] Alembic if we won the lottery.[/quote] "OR"?? f*** it, if my 6 number came up I'd get one of each with fretless versions of both, not cos I need them, or because it would improve my playing or my sound, and not because I'd even play them, but just because I'm filthy stinking rich and I can If I won the lottery it'd either go on bass gear and cars or drugs and women, so realistically I'd be doing myself a favour by spending copious amounts of it on bass gear that I'd never use

[quote name='The_D' post='387030' date='Jan 20 2009, 11:57 PM']Here [url="http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/products/en/NS-2/"]http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/products/en/NS-2/[/url] The NS2 actually has an in, an out, a send and return. You put the noisy pedals into the send/return loop and then link the rest as normal. You play with the thereshold to the point where the hiss stops then you are good to go. Try and borrow one from someone to see if its what you need but it sounds exactly like my problem and this completely solved it for me. I leave the pedal on all the time so when I switch my pedals on I dont have to also switch the NS2 on too.[/quote] I like the idea of being able to put 1 or 2 noisy pedals on a separate loop that is effectively gated out of the chain until I activate them. I'll keep an eye out for a cheap one on ebay and if it’s not what I need then I’ll sell it on for minimal loss, but the more I think about it, having an NS2 to effectively gate a separate effects loop seems like a good solution.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='386993' date='Jan 20 2009, 11:28 PM']Just seen a For Sale Effects forum pop up so I guess change is coming [/quote] I might have to use it if I can’t get rid of the hiss from my pedalboard… :ph34r:

I’m not so sure now – The one I thought it was sounds fine by itself but introduces a faint high pitch hiss when it’s bypassed within the chain. I might be able to do something with a Boss LS2 like have it on a separate loop by itself, but I dunno. I’ll open it up tomorrow and see if I can see anything obvious like a grounding issue…

[quote name='ped' post='386928' date='Jan 20 2009, 11:01 PM']BTW Ben, you might know this, but noise suppressors work by 'closing the door' so no signal (or hiss) can pass through unless a threshold is passed at which the door opens a bit, depending on the sensitivity. Thus depending on the level of hiss you can balance it just right to close just after the sound becomes lost to hiss without cutting off any sustain, but it depends on how loud the hiss is. Chances are if it is noticeable enough to annoy you at the moment then a noise gate might not work. On extremely low level hiss I don't like gates because I notice it far more than without.... Cheers ped[/quote] Yeah I was just about to post pretty much exactly that – once the threshold of the gate is breached then I’ll still hear the noise. Is the noise suppressor just a gate then and it doesn’t actually remove the hiss by some means of electrical trickery? :wacko:

[quote name='The_D' post='386898' date='Jan 20 2009, 10:50 PM']Nothing. It just removes/suppresses noise in a signal path. Doesnt have any affect on your tone at all. AFAIK it is designed exactly for the purpose in this case.[/quote] So it has no adverse affect on your tone at all, and your tone is completely the same, but it completely removes the hiss/noise? That sounds amazing. I might have to try one out… PS – I take it you put it right at the end of your signal chain/pedalboard?

[quote name='ped' post='386895' date='Jan 20 2009, 10:50 PM']The noise gate on the pod should clear it up for the most part, if you really can't live without the culprit. I can't stand any sort of hiss myself, I have a bit of OCD about it! Cheers ped[/quote] yeah I'm the same - I've been living noise free for 3 years with the Pod but I'm trying to wean myself off it for a better quality sound and more versatile effects, but so far it's more hassle than it's worth. If I could figure out a way of having my Pod XT Live as well as my separate pedals in the same space that my pedalboard takes up then I’d do it, but I can’t…

[quote name='Stewart' post='386837' date='Jan 20 2009, 10:23 PM']It's a gate you'd need (though many rackmount compressor/limiters contain gates) - but a better bet would be finding the culprit and getting rid of it - the chances are it's primarily one pedal - just remove one at a time. Order might help or make things worse, but you can only find out by trying different combinations.[/quote] I think I might have it nailed down to 1 pedal, but it's great and I don't want to loose it

[quote name='The_D' post='386878' date='Jan 20 2009, 10:43 PM']I had the same problem. I traced it down to my Big Muff but didnt want to lose it so I invested in some quality patch cables from our very own OBBM. The cables were great but didnt eliminate the hiss. I then bought a Boss NS2 (noise suppressor) and that totally solved it. I now have a very quiet signal path and I havent sacrificed any of my effects to get it. So in summary lol! Get a noise suppressor of some kind and wave goodbye to your noise.[/quote] What did that Boss NS2 do to your tone?

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='386575' date='Jan 20 2009, 07:13 PM']Would you like me to put you on the list?[/quote] The naughty list?

[quote name='Silent Fly' post='386717' date='Jan 20 2009, 08:53 PM']Could you describe the noise/noises? Is it hum, hiss, clicking...? Silent Fly[/quote] It's more of a hiss but there may be some hum in there as well...