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Could it be the rise of funk/fusion type music around the same time? I wonder whether the aspiring bassists of the day went in the other direction and decided they wanted to ape players like Jaco or Mark King instead.

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1467739182' post='3085803'] 5th Symphony T-Shirt fail. [url="https://postimg.org/image/ha160xxer/"][/url] [/quote] *facepalm*

I think it's four notes rather than three, but I expect it will instantly evoke pictures of apes breaking bones in front of an unexplained monolith, and that's the opening phrase from [i]Thus Spake Zarathusthra [/i]by Ricard Strauss. Look it up and imagine the monkeys.

[quote name='Freddy Le Cragg' timestamp='1467572356' post='3084639'] Binbag. Or if I'm feeling flush, a Poundland bag for life. [/quote] ^ Perhaps I should add that, back when I barely had two bob to rub together, I did have the zip break on a gig bag about twenty minutes before I had to set off for a gig. Said bag ended up being sutered shut with an old set of strings. But at least that felt more secure than the time I had to encase the bass in bubble wrap and bung it under one arm.

[quote name='GarethFlatlands' timestamp='1467045903' post='3080760'] Tube Screamer - Weak drive and a mid hump I couldn't dial out. EQ didn't seem to do a whole lot either. I assume it works in a band setting or for bluesy stuff but I didn't get on with it as I don't play that kind of stuff. Had a Bad Monkey for a while and kind of liked it on bass but sold it for something a bit more dirty. [/quote] On the other hand, that mid hump was the main motivation for me buying one! But then I bought it as a pedal for soloing - if you're looking for big fat fuzzy basslines, I agree it's not so hot, but if you need the bass to sing clearly over the top of your guitarist and drummer, I found it was just the ticket. Nicely responsive to dynamics as well.

As somebody whose gear is rather more on the heavyweight end, my amp and cab have their own padded covers but are basically carried around by something with an engine! On a more practical note, I have found that despite its enormity, the coffin case for the 'bird allows very little room for storage. As a result I've dedicated a spare laptop bag to carrying pedals and cables.

[quote name='72deluxe' timestamp='1466966084' post='3080101'] [font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif]I got the last seated ticket late last afternoon and went along. Rip-off commission, rip-off admin fee, rip-off parking but a good gig![/font] [font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif]I really enjoyed it! Blackmore wasn't as fast as he used to be but he still did some great guitar work (sweep picking, great runs) despite being 71. Really really enjoyed it! [/font] [font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif]The instrumental section in the middle with the drum solo and keyboard part wasn't popular from what I can tell by online reviews but I really enjoyed it- Jens Johansson was on keyboards and his solo section was really enjoyable.[/font] [font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif]No Marshall stacks - Engl everywhere. I will post videos on YouTube if I get a chance[/font] [/quote] Glad to hear it was a good show in the end! A few friends and I initially scrambled to get tickets when we first heard about it but then (like a lot of people on here, I guess) stopped trying when we found out that it was basically going to be "Ritchie Blackmore plus some session musicians" and the last tickets had shot up to £200+! Would have been great to see the man in black, but getting down to Brum from London, Leeds and Leicester on top of the ticket price was a stretch too far for us - but I wouldn't mind seeing those clips if you've still got them.

For all the recent (and probably justified) complaints about the bass sounds coming out of Later With Jools, I've just been catching up on Joanne Shaw Taylor's Sunday set and the bassist's Jazz is sounding pretty good via the iPlayer.

[quote name='SubsonicSimpleton' timestamp='1467036203' post='3080642'] Do you like to boost bass frequencies (either on the amp or active bass onboard eq)? Very often when people complain about being inaudible or their amps crapping out, [b]the culprit turns out to be silly EQ settings[/b] - not saying this is the case in your situation, but before you jump to the conclusion that you need more amp/cab, it might be worth investigating your EQ and FX use. If you are feeding the power section of the amp a lot of very low frequency information it will use your headroom up very quickly. [/quote] ...and not always on the bass amp! Is/are your guitarist(s) clogging up your sonic space by cranking their own bass controls too high?

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1467024765' post='3080499'] that Beach Boys' sound is very obviously a pick isn't it I was arguing that you can get the same sound with either technique, although obviously you could do with some EQ and compression to make a pick sound like fingers [/quote] I know it's a rock example, but look up[i]Animate [/i]by Rush. The driving bassline sounds quite pick-like but is almost certainly Geddy flapping his index finger back and forth. (I'd provide a link but work interweb and youtube links don't mix too well, sorry!)

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1467023851' post='3080488'] Excuse my ignorance but do you have examples of songs? [/quote] I'm reasonably sure it's Kaye playing the higher bass part on the Beach Boys' 'Good Vibrations.' (To be honest, pick any Beach Boys song from Pet Sounds onwards and there's a good chance she's playing the bassline. With a pick.)

[quote name='bassix' timestamp='1447923723' post='2911445'] I won't be moving too far musically from where I am now in punk, I've checked out what a few guitarists I like play and they seem to all be on Gibsons so I might have to check out the Les Paul and SG copies.. The kits seem to be fantastic value, I have noticed that the soundclips have different styles of music as demonstrations, although you could use any guitar would these indicate the traditional types of music played on them? Also seen this though which seems pretty cheap, any thoughts? [url="https://www.gumtree.com/p/guitar-instrument/electric-guitar-with-amp/1142652408"]https://www.gumtree....-amp/1142652408[/url] [/quote] [quote name='MoonBassAlpha' timestamp='1466720657' post='3078254'] The Vintage brand with the Wilkinson hardware has a very good rep for the money. They've been around long enough to find second hand aplenty. [/quote] +1 I still own a Vintage VS6, which is their SG copy. Mine's actually old enough that I think it predates the Wilkinson-hardware-as-standard. It was a perfectly decent guitar to begin with, but after popping some Wilkinson pickups in it sounds even better. Not sure what the going rate is for one these days, but I'm fairly sure you could pick one up for less than £200.

[quote name='BluRay' timestamp='1466596317' post='3077059'] I use a CTM 100 in a loud band. It can hold its own at full-on band level, providing things don’t get silly. I’ve done some gigs just with backline and a vocal PA only, and its been fine. The amp isn’t super-clean at those levels tho – you’re into snarlsville (in a good way:). Personally I think it sounds sweeter at lower volumes, but the power-stage (when driven) certainly gives it some clout. It’s probably worth mentioning that the gain stage breaks up early - I have to have the gain set below 1/4 with my basses, else it’s a bit too bitey. Also the EQ is subtle. The push buttons alter the sound quite a bit, but you can’t make really significant changes with the knobs. So things can get a bit slushy if the guitarists don’t/won’t tweak their EQ to accommodate how this amp sounds (I bring an EQ pedal just in case!). The core tone is fantastic. [/quote] +1! The EQ knobs are enough for me to clear up the tone of a Thunderbird, but they don't really offer the same "tone-sculpting" that a lot of modern, solid-state heads offer. (Though if you're playing punk/rock this may be less of an issue!) And it does break up quite early, but then I assume that you're considering valves because you're after that sort of tone! Mine used to do keep up just fine when it was powering a Laney 1 x 15. Now I've upgraded to a Berg 2x12 I feel like I could possibly even drown out our drummer...!

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1465454394' post='3068281'] I played in a band with some mates when I was about 13 and we had a guitarist who when tuning up would get bored half way though and just say "ah well it's close enough for jazz" ... [/quote] Inspired by this little conversation, I present my own offering: https://soundcloud.com/white_elephant/close-enough-for-jazz-basschat-noodle-bar-june16 Fretless Fender Jazz straight into the mixer and then into Audacity with a little compression.

[quote name='toneknob' timestamp='1466506212' post='3076276'] The Queen Is Dead is a smashing album. [/quote] Probably their most consistent album - at least from the ones I've heard - and very accessible. Wasn't it [i]Strangeways [/i]that the band themselves thought was their best?

If anything, I'm amazed the rest of the band stuck around! Were many people there for the open mic?

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1465485136' post='3068665'] Except Buddy Rich was a child star, Traps the Drum Wonder, on stage from age 18 months and was among the richest child stars of his time. [/quote] [quote name='peteb' timestamp='1465485167' post='3068666'] I think that the videos are particularly pertinent given that Rich himself first came to fame as a child prodigy drummer 'Traps the boy wonder'...! [/quote] Good point; I hadn't been aware of BR's childhood fame!

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1465483660' post='3068644'] Personally, I'm not impressed with any of these YouTube clips featuring young children playing instruments. Can the child read charts, manage and direct a band, travel and play 280 gigs a year? Buddy was a pioneer. Blue [/quote] But surely the point of those videos is that the child is exhibiting prodigious talent and/or skill on their instrument for somebody of [i]x [/i]years - not to make direct comparisons between them and Buddy Rich...?

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1465464975' post='3068413'] Oi! I told you - check out Felix Pappalardi! [/quote] I did - your comparison is very flattering indeed!

[quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1465474976' post='3068550'] So we became The Originals, and we had to change our name as there was another group in the east end called The Originals and we had to rename ourselves The New Originals. Then The Originals changed their name back to The Regulars and we thought well, we could go back to The Originals but what's the point? [/quote] You could always have your lead singer adopt a stage name, allowing you to become Werther and the Originals...

Just to say, if people would like to continue this discussion, I'm really enjoying all these old clips of The Who...

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1465391808' post='3067776'] Dave Panichi talking about the tapes (towards the bottom of the article). A good read. [url="http://jazztimes.com/articles/20010-the-buddy-rich-tapes"]http://jazztimes.com...uddy-rich-tapes[/url] [/quote] I think Panichi nails the possible cultural difference to which Blue alluded earlier when he says "[color=#333333]My own feeling was he couldn’t get away with that s**t with an Australian band. Somebody would’ve popped him."[/color] [color=#333333]Similarly I can imagine a British group would either send such a bandleader to Coventry, or smack him in the mouth, depending on their average temperament.[/color]

I kept myself to two basses for so many years - probably close to ten years, in fact. Then a couple of years ago, I somehow ended up with four - granted, one was disassembled for a refurb, and one was still being built, but it wasn't long until they they were four fully-functioning four-strings. A couple of years, and chance encounters down the line, and then there were seven. I often feel like perhaps I should try and move one or two of them on...but there are none I actually want rid of!

[quote name='Painy' timestamp='1464886365' post='3063565'] Am I the only one that initialy misread the thread title as straight plugs or anal plugs? [/quote] To be fair, the OP's pic doesn't help with that!

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1464944116' post='3063924'] The BarFM website is deeply sh*t, Ralph! Not surprised you didn't bother to link to it. Can you confirm this gig isn't Members Only (or something equally daft)? [/quote] Pretty horrendous, isn't it? I've just had a chinwag with the organisers and apparently the "members only" guff is for their club nights. Mere mortals such as ourselves are welcome this evening.