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[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1410860987' post='2553883'] Would this thread have more useful meaning if folk backed up their preferences with info on what genre of music they play? OK, this may be a noob question, but IMHO it could be interesting to to see if some patterns appear in the preferences. [/quote] Through My Markbass I played rock to start with, after that band I went on to play folk, country, jazz & blues. Then Back to some rock & then to electronica & dubstep. I got compliments on my sound from it in each band at least once. But... That's not down to just the rig alone, but the bass, the effects & my awesome/awful skills. The rig just amplified exactly what I wanted it to sound like.

I've gigged a Markbass 2x10 to @ 300 people a few times & never been let down. Though I would probably choose a 2x12 just for the extra height. If going for the MB, I'd choose the STD over the Traveller too.

[quote name='Magic Matt' timestamp='1410522115' post='2550306'] So you'd have to remove the highpass protection filter... how would you stop the gravitational influence of the moon affecting your signal? [/quote] Or you could just play during the day.

[quote name='Magic Matt' timestamp='1410523174' post='2550328'] The best kind of speaker for Dubstep is a broken one... preferably without an amp. [/quote] Some of the best bass sounds can be had in that genre. There's a facebook page dedicated to making the bass wobble... [url="https://www.facebook.com/groups/organicbasswobble/"]https://www.facebook.com/groups/organicbasswobble/[/url]

[quote name='Bassman Steve' timestamp='1410505729' post='2550056'] Doesn't that make you feel as stupid as a stupid thing that's done something particularly stupid. [/quote] Nah. I might be daft, but I'm not stupid.

[quote name='Phil Starr' timestamp='1410505339' post='2550051'] This is all to be taken with a pinch of salt because we've no idea of spaces you'll be performing in or the type of music [/quote] Dubstep. It's surely gotta be dubstep?

[quote name='donslow' timestamp='1410501556' post='2550026'] If I had the spare money to, the Ashdown cabs would be gone [i][b]quicker than a quick thing leaving somewhere very quickly[/b][/i] hahaha but for now, I'm stuck with them :-s [/quote] Haha! That phrase is cheesier than a cheesy thing with cheese on it, but I thought I was the only person to use that sort of phrase.

This could be down to the venue & using mixed drivers. One problem with mixing cabs is that the rig can sound great at one venue & not so good at another. So what sounds good in rehearsal can be totally lost in another room. Mixed cabs can create dead spots, where it can sound great at 20' away from the rig, but at 5' or 30' there's either too little or too much bass. Having 2 identical cabs would take away this inconsistency. Stacking vertically gives a better dispersion across the stage. It might also be worth increasing the low mids on your sound & rolling off a touch of the bottom (depending on the genre of music), like Phil says.

Everyone knows that regardless of the gig, you need 2 Ampeg 8x10 stacks.

Get to a shop & try some things out. You might benefit from having a clean amp like Markbass, Genz Benz or whatever you like the sound of clean & adding a pedal such as a VT1 or Sansamp to get valve sounds.

You'll pick up a Markbass head 2nd hand within your budget. I'd try a few amps out & see what you like best.

I used to listen to them a lot on Mixcloud. Gonna have to see what's on Deezer of theirs.

I wouldn't rush into a purchase & see who on here can loan you one for the gig, or hire one. Personally I wouldn't choose any of the amps you listed, but that's down to my own personal taste. It would be worth looking at what's available on here. You'll get a good head for @ £400.

[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1410363105' post='2548587'] I hear that Orange are planning something similar [/quote] Well is would be fruitful for them.

Are those ones made in Scotland? Fife to be exact.

Driver diameter on a decent cab has no bearing on how much bass or mid it produces. It's down to the amp & cab design. If you can, try a Bearfaced cab. Apparently very loud & very light.

Ahh, that is old MB cabs. Are they B&C drivers in those? First thing to try is putting the 2x10 on it's side (you can turn the badge if it bugs you). This will do 2 things... 1, bring the drivers higher to ear level & 2, increase the dispersion from the mids so that you & the band hear things better when not stood straight in front of the cab. Personally, I'd sell the 15 & get another 2x10 (or vice versa). But if you try another amp & the cab's still ain't doing it for you, then get yourself either to a good music shop or a bassbash & try out some gear. I'd never suggest buying without trying (even though I did! But I did like what I got).

Are they STD or Traveller cabs? The STD has the same frequency range regardless of 2x10 or 1x15. It might be your amp that's the factor? Try borrowing an amp from a fellow bassist (or even a local music shop).

Neither is a good 2x12. My Markbass 2x10 wasn't quiet either. I never went through the band's PA & had no trouble being heard. What's your current rig?

Why a 4x12? Why not get a good 2x12 & if you need to play large outdoor gigs with no PA support then get a 2nd.

[quote name='Jus Lukin' timestamp='1410273494' post='2547708'] Technically speaking, it would want to be before the trem, because evening that out too much would stop it working, and before the reverb, because a natural decay is all part of reverb sounding like reverb. Given that the most likely use of the comp is to level playing dynamics, logic and probability still make the start of the chain the default. Envelope filters are most likely to require a comp after them, but I'm simply taking the Mr Spock approach here! *EDIT* "Dammit Jim- I'm a bass player, not a psychedelic space-rock noise merchant!" [/quote] You make a good point, but to get the compressor to sustain things that much, it would need to be set to some pretty extreme levels. For a starting order, then there's nothing wrong with your suggestion.

[quote name='Jus Lukin' timestamp='1410271859' post='2547688'] There is no law as to how to use effects, of course, BUT, there is a standard logic to how effects [i]usually[/i] go. The standard starting point with the effects you have mentioned would be Compressor, Dirt, Modulation (Trem + Chorus), Reverb. That is how a multi-effects unit would be likely order them. I won't go into why it's that way, getting your head into the signal chain is all part of the fun! Naturally, with that being the most sensible order, it might be [i]too[/i] sensible! Just depends on what you wish to achieve with the effects. [/quote] But is that being more sensible than putting the compressor at the end to even things out? I found the best place for the compressor was the guitarist's pedal board.

[quote name='Jesso' timestamp='1410213384' post='2547286'] I've got 2 channels for my tops (per power sub) that will go as low as 4 ohms. I used to run 2 speakers (8 ohms each) from each output, so I know the amp is happy to run 4 ohm speakers. So long as I don't clip the hell out of my amps, I suppose the speakers should be happy enough with "only" 500 watts each. I'd like to buy the matching subs too.... but at the guts of 3 grand a side that's not going to be happening any time soon! Plus I'm pretty happy with our subs in terms of power. Thanks for the input everyone. [/quote] If it's 4Ω per side, then there's nothing to worry about. As for the watts, there's nothing to concern yourself about there either. Just keep an ear for how it sounds. This might be of interest to you (skip the first post & the link)... http://basschat.co.uk/topic/244784-sharing-a-link-amps-speakers-watts-ohms/

If the cabs are rated at 4Ω each & your amp runs a minimum of 4Ω then you can run 1 cab. Watts don't make decibels. It would be wise to read some of the info in the Amps & cabs section or visit either Bill Fitzmaurice's or Barefaced Bass's websites to gain a better understanding.

IIRC, how they measure the watts on an amp is by using a dummy load and a sine wave & measure the voltage with an oscilloscope. Now depending on what frequency the sine wave is, the amount of watts can vary greatly.